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wha? Ghs? Iorr? I actually agree on if you cant rock me and dance little sister. But the wiping was likely keith bring keith. He dominated others like that from what i can tell.Quote
HMS
Not enough noodling wiped, imho. Please Minimise or/and wipe MT on the next reissues of GHS/IORR.
The Stones were obviously very aware that wiping had to be done.
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LieB
There are a couple of places on Ya-Ya's where Taylor's parts were replaced by overdubs by Richards. I quote from [www.iorr.org]
JJF - Taylor partially removed during the outro section (the E - D - C# - B parts)
Carol - Taylor's main rhythm part, overdubbed by Richards. Taylor's counter turn-arounds still present
Midnight Rambler - Taylor removed during parts of the slow, middle piece. Probably due to tuning problems / tuning up
Little Queenie - Taylors main rhythm guitar replaced by Richards
Honky Tonk Woman – Taylor’s rhythm guitar replaced in the solo section
There are probably a few places on Exile, but I don't know for sure. Rocks Off has a Taylor guitar mixed very low in the middle of the field. I'm pretty sure it was a production/mixing decision to mix it low and let Keith's two guitars in either channel dominate the tune. But I'm not sure if anything has was wiped.
There's an early mix of Rip This Joint with more lead guitar fills by Taylor that's been wiped for the final version.
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FP
There is a rehearsal of Rip This Joint with Taylor slide that is not on the released version. However this feels like practice jam through it rather than something then wiped as the slide is a bit out of tune.
While I like some of the ideas I can understand why it was not recorded like this as the slide does not really fir with the 50's rock and roll vibe Keith was after.
video: [www.youtube.com]
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Big Al
In regards to Taylor's 'wiped-guitars' on the Ya-Ya's release: one has to ask, why?
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Koen
The Stones always record many tracks and in the end use the ones that sound best for a particular song. Early versions with different tracks float around, but I wouldn't use the word 'wiped', they were just not used in the end.
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I remember hearing a version of Brown Sugar where Taylor plays a counter melody under the chorus. It is the melody he tends to play live.I can't seem to find it now, does anyone know which take this is?
I maybe simply mistaken of course. So far I have heard a version with Taylor playing some simple arpeggios and a very brief solo and then another with more Keith lead guitar on the intro as well as the Eric Clapton version. God how many mixes are there of this tune! There is also a version on Hot Rocks that is different I think?
I used to wish BS has some Taylor guitar on it but apart from the counter melody he did not seem to play anything that really changed the vibe of the song, at least not on the studio version.
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DandelionPowderman
That's crazy, kleerie. He's all over IORR, except for the title track and ATPTB.
He's even important on SAC, even though Keith plays the lead guitar.
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LieB
There are a couple of places on Ya-Ya's where Taylor's parts were replaced by overdubs by Richards. I quote from [www.iorr.org]
JJF - Taylor partially removed during the outro section (the E - D - C# - B parts)
Carol - Taylor's main rhythm part, overdubbed by Richards. Taylor's counter turn-arounds still present
Midnight Rambler - Taylor removed during parts of the slow, middle piece. Probably due to tuning problems / tuning up
Little Queenie - Taylors main rhythm guitar replaced by Richards
Honky Tonk Woman – Taylor’s rhythm guitar replaced in the solo section
There are probably a few places on Exile, but I don't know for sure. Rocks Off has a Taylor guitar mixed very low in the middle of the field. I'm pretty sure it was a production/mixing decision to mix it low and let Keith's two guitars in either channel dominate the tune. But I'm not sure if anything has was wiped.
There's an early mix of Rip This Joint with more lead guitar fills by Taylor that's been wiped for the final version.
Really? I always thought MR on GYYYO the only original track.
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DandelionPowderman
That's crazy, kleerie. He's all over IORR, except for the title track and ATPTB.
He's even important on SAC, even though Keith plays the lead guitar.
Are you saying I'm crazy?
He's not on Ain't TPTB, Luxury and IORR, and only a snippet of his guitar on S&C.
He stands out on three songs: Time WFNO, FF and (with Keith) on Dance LS. That's about it.
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DandelionPowderman
That's crazy, kleerie. He's all over IORR, except for the title track and ATPTB.
He's even important on SAC, even though Keith plays the lead guitar.
Are you saying I'm crazy?
He's not on Ain't TPTB, Luxury and IORR, and only a snippet of his guitar on S&C.
He stands out on three songs: Time WFNO, FF and (with Keith) on Dance LS. That's about it.
I would never refer to you as "that"
He certainly stands out more on IYCRM than on DLS, sonically and quality-wise.
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FP
I remember hearing a version of Brown Sugar where Taylor plays a counter melody under the chorus. It is the melody he tends to play live.I can't seem to find it now, does anyone know which take this is?
I maybe simply mistaken of course. So far I have heard a version with Taylor playing some simple arpeggios and a very brief solo and then another with more Keith lead guitar on the intro as well as the Eric Clapton version. God how many mixes are there of this tune! There is also a version on Hot Rocks that is different I think?
I used to wish BS has some Taylor guitar on it but apart from the counter melody he did not seem to play anything that really changed the vibe of the song, at least not on the studio version.
The version with the arpeggios is Keith. Taylor did the solo. You can hear clearly that the arpeggios are on the same channel as the embryonic Berry licks (right channel). I just posted that version for you in one of the Taylor threads you created today
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DandelionPowderman
He he ><
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DandelionPowderman
He he ><
Just a quick unrelated question...is that emoticon a thumbs up smiley or someone flipping the bird with both hands and a sarcastic smile on his face?
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DandelionPowderman
He he ><
Just a quick unrelated question...is that emoticon a thumbs up smiley or someone flipping the bird with both hands and a sarcastic smile on his face?
Double bird flip. ><
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His Majesty
It's known as the "@#$%& you" smiley.
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His Majesty
It's known as the "@#$%& you" smiley.
Someone better tell DP.
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His Majesty
It's known as the "@#$%& you" smiley.
Someone better tell DP.
I see bv has re-named it the "thumbs up smiley".
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His Majesty
It's known as the "@#$%& you" smiley.
Someone better tell DP.
I see bv has re-named it the "thumbs up smiley".
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DandelionPowderman
Like I would have any hesitation giving kleerie the finger if I wanted to...
This was a laughing thumbs up
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DandelionPowderman
Like I would have any hesitation giving kleerie the finger if I wanted to...
This was a laughing thumbs up
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Re Goats Head Soup
I feel it becomes a stronger album if you add Tops and Waiting on a Friend to it. I don't know what state the tunes were in during the GHS sessions but if they were reasonably complete I think it is a shame they were not included.If it was a timing issue I would happily remove Coming Down Again.
Dancing with Mr. D
100 Years Ago
Coming Down Again
Waiting on a Friend
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Angie
Silver Train
Tops
Hide Your Love
Winter
Can You Hear the Music
Star Star