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Mick Taylor Talk - what's on your mind right now...
Posted by: bv ()
Date: March 11, 2015 20:52

Feel free to use this thread to discuss Mick Taylor, The Rolling Stones guitar player from 1969 to the mid 70's, his playing, his involvement with the Rolling Stones and related subjects. If you start a new thread about Mick Taylor here on IORR it might be merged into this thread, to keep the information and discussions in one place.

Bjornulf



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-11 23:35 by bv.

Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: palerider22 ()
Date: March 11, 2015 02:23







Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 2015-03-11 03:53 by palerider22.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: moonlightaffair ()
Date: March 11, 2015 03:18

Exactly thumbs up

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: SweetThing ()
Date: March 11, 2015 07:04

Yes, its a shame.

Mick Taylor and Ronnie Wood. If they were both utilized to their fullest abilities together, I have little doubt that would make the Stones swan song nothing short of epic.

But it's just not going to happen.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: March 11, 2015 08:29

As much as I love MT, I was bored to death by that 5 minute solo in the clip posted above...not his best work by a long shot. More interaction with Keith and Ronnie, sweet tasty fills and rhythm work, not this spotlight solo like the Stones are your backing band stuff.

Besides, I think it's going to take a whole set with the Stones for him to warm up, and I think I know just the songs from which record which would work perfectly..grinning smiley

peace

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: deadegad ()
Date: March 11, 2015 15:39

Quote
SweetThing
Yes, its a shame.

Mick Taylor and Ronnie Wood. If they were both utilized to their fullest abilities together, I have little doubt that would make the Stones swan song nothing short of epic.

But it's just not going to happen.

I dream about them playing leads on SFTD and elsewhere and it is indeed epic!



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Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: deadegad ()
Date: March 11, 2015 15:40

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Naturalust
As much as I love MT, I was bored to death by that 5 minute solo in the clip posted above...not his best work by a long shot. More interaction with Keith and Ronnie, sweet tasty fills and rhythm work, not this spotlight solo like the Stones are your backing band stuff.

Besides, I think it's going to take a whole set with the Stones for him to warm up, and I think I know just the songs from which record which would work perfectly..grinning smiley

peace

"I was bored to death by that 5 minute solo."

Seriously!?!?!

Your Honor . . .. Move to strike!

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 11, 2015 15:54

So... if they had played it in 1971 and 1972 and 1973 would it still have been a "spotlight solo like the Stones are" Taylor's "backing band"?

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: March 11, 2015 16:06

Taylor's fusion style of playing doesn't mix well with the Stones these days. You might say that he's too sophisticated for them or you might say he's boring and outdated.
Either way - the chemistry simply isn't there. At least not live in concert. Personally I hope they skip both CYHMK and MR this time around. We have heard them too well before.
Let's do something fresh (which I realize is something of an anomaly when we are talking Stones in the 21th century...).

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Date: March 11, 2015 16:06

Taylor only plays this section of the song on his solo gigs. Probably a pre-requisite and/or something the Stones thought was cool to do that way for the prodigal son. I understand what NL is saying, but also why the Stones did it that way.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: GasLightStreet ()
Date: March 11, 2015 16:30

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Stoneage
Taylor's fusion style of playing doesn't mix well with the Stones these days. You might say that he's too sophisticated for them or you might say he's boring and outdated.
Either way - the chemistry simply isn't there. At least not live in concert. Personally I hope they skip both CYHMK and MR this time around. We have heard them too well before.
Let's do something fresh (which I realize is something of an anomaly when we are talking Stones in the 21th century...).

On that note something fresh would be

What To Do
Flight 505
Please Go Home
Miss Amanda Jones
HYSYMBSITS?
Summer Romance
No Spare Parts
Do You Think I Really Care
She Saw Me Coming
Let Me Down Slow
Jigsaw Puzzle
Casino Boogie
Turd On The Run
Dancing With Mr D
100 Years Ago
Dance Little Sister
Fingerprint File
We Love You
Slave
No Use In Crying
All The Way Down
Pretty Beat Up

If they had Mick Taylor with them
Plundered My Soul
Tops
Time Waits For No One
Winter

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Date: March 11, 2015 17:07

IYCRM, Ventilator Blues or MM would be cool as well.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: Mr.D ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:18

If Taylor were to be utilized on more songs the band would need to rehearse with him for months, for their last few tours they have only rehearsed for a week to ten days, generally MT is only there for a couple of those days. If they ARE going to play SF in its entirety and the first show of the tour is at the end of May then they should start rehearsals in mid April.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:28

for months?

If Taylor were to be utilized on more songs the band would need to rehearse with him for months,

its only rock n' roll..

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: frankotero ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:31

I thought he sounded fine on Slipping Away (Rome). It's not all about long solos. It's speculation on our part what is going on in the band and for what reasons. Some of us realize a possibility for something great with Mick Taylor on board. If not, I can imagine the concerts will still be pretty great. I like the idea of playing Red Rocks. Hope it will be professionally recorded.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: ronkeith72 ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:32

1000% accurate Mick Taylor is sorely needed otherwise my beloved Stones sound just freaking tired...no way around it. Not only is he needed hi role has to expand!!!!

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: LuxuryStones ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:43

Quote
Naturalust
As much as I love MT, I was bored to death by that 5 minute solo in the clip posted above...not his best work by a long shot. More interaction with Keith and Ronnie, sweet tasty fills and rhythm work, not this spotlight solo like the Stones are your backing band stuff.

Besides, I think it's going to take a whole set with the Stones for him to warm up, and I think I know just the songs from which record which would work perfectly..grinning smiley

peace

I agree, only a few guitarists can shine if they have only 5 minutes to improvise on the same B-chord during a rock song for 20 times in a row.. And I doubt the Stones have time for Taylor to do something completely different.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: IrisC ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:48

I say put Ronny on base and Taylor back on lead. Ronny is an excellent base player!

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: DoomandGloom ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:54

It seems so crazy.... It's not like they're the tightest band anyhow. Let the guy play... The show's a beautiful spectacle, a guitar party, a freak show. The more freaks the better. Some days I think it's Jagger messing with this but today I think it's Richards and although he has earned every right to call the shots, it ain't right.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: DoomandGloom ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:56

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IrisC
I say put Ronny on base and Taylor back on lead. Ronny is an excellent base player!
Ronnie's not interested plaus the bass player needs to keep track of where the band is in a song, not really Ronnie's strong point.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: Captainchaos ()
Date: March 11, 2015 17:59

as said above..
"slippin away" was a great example of MT adding something new and interesting to a song. it made the song sound that little bit better for me.

I love the likes of CYHMK & MR (and wishful think for the full Sway outro solo) but its the interplay and possibilities 'slippin away' presents that i want more of. (o yeah the CYHMK from Gastonbury is easily the best live version too - band and MT locked in beautifully)

MORE MICK TAYLOR!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: 2120Joe ()
Date: March 11, 2015 18:06

It was great to see MT, trip down memory lane, great days of music the early 70s for the band, old school, etc… But I could live with out him now. Stones are a two weaving guitar band to me. CYHMK was great live with out MT. This version goes nowhere-background music. For extra guitars, Going Down was a real treat and I do love to see MJ with one in his hands. MT noodling is time consuming distraction. Someone said its the notes that aren't played that are the most important.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: MisterDDDD ()
Date: March 11, 2015 18:07

It's not that I don't "get" the sentiment and desire of wanting Taylor to continue on and play a more significant role..
It's just that I find it offensive and disrespectful to be "demanding" or to think that anyone could possibly have more insight into the situation than the band and the individuals. It also appears, MT may have personal issues, but who here would know anything about that possibility??

It's not punitive for chrissakes..

It's a band and/or business decision. And if anyone has EARNED the right to, without question,run the greatest rock and roll band that has ever, and will ever, live... it's Jagger/Richards/Watts/Wood.

Period.



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Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: 2120Joe ()
Date: March 11, 2015 18:20

Very true. The band gives us what we want. Why second guess the masters!

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Date: March 11, 2015 18:45

Quote
DoomandGloom
It seems so crazy.... It's not like they're the tightest band anyhow. Let the guy play... The show's a beautiful spectacle, a guitar party, a freak show. The more freaks the better. Some days I think it's Jagger messing with this but today I think it's Richards and although he has earned every right to call the shots, it ain't right.

Keith invited Taylor on to play SA, without telling Mick. Just saying...

And had they played without the band structure (with Chuck) they probably wouldn't have had to rehearse that much. It would be hit and miss (like 81/82), but fore different reasons smiling smiley

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: DoomandGloom ()
Date: March 11, 2015 18:49

Quote
DandelionPowderman
Quote
DoomandGloom
It seems so crazy.... It's not like they're the tightest band anyhow. Let the guy play... The show's a beautiful spectacle, a guitar party, a freak show. The more freaks the better. Some days I think it's Jagger messing with this but today I think it's Richards and although he has earned every right to call the shots, it ain't right.

Keith invited Taylor on to play SA, without telling Mick. Just saying...

And had they played without the band structure (with Chuck) they probably wouldn't have had to rehearse that much. It would be hit and miss (like 81/82), but fore different reasons smiling smiley
Keith is a slippery pirate.

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Date: March 11, 2015 18:59

Seemingly, he's only slippery, according to the cast list on POTC 5 winking smiley

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: Naturalust ()
Date: March 11, 2015 19:58

Quote
DoomandGloom
Quote
IrisC
I say put Ronny on base and Taylor back on lead. Ronny is an excellent base player!
Ronnie's not interested plaus the bass player needs to keep track of where the band is in a song, not really Ronnie's strong point.

Indeed, plus there is no way they would ask Darryl to "sit out" while Ronnie takes up the rhythm section with Charlie. And keep him away from the base too, we all know about his problems with that stuff. winking smiley

peace

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: March 11, 2015 20:04

Quote
IrisC
I say put Ronny on base and Taylor back on lead. Ronny is an excellent base player!

I say put Ronny on base

he already had enough of that and quit long ago..

Re: Ojoy - Sticky Fingers 'Why Mick Taylor Has To Stay"
Date: March 11, 2015 20:07

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duke richardson
Quote
IrisC
I say put Ronny on base and Taylor back on lead. Ronny is an excellent base player!

I say put Ronny on base

he already had enough of that and quit long ago..

Luckily! grinning smiley

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