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Doesn't MT only play the solo at the end of Casino Boogie? Soul Survivor is interesting because it is a pretty simple part for MT to play, but it shows that he could keep it straight forward and serve the song rather than just riffing.
I always find it odd that he gets a credit on Ventilator Blues when I heard he only plays the solo again on it!
I suspect some of the lack of Taylor guitar on Exile is down to the working methods. If Keith stayed up all night overdubbing guitars there probably wasn't much left for MT to do.
i think that when keith was in the zone, he knew exactly what he wanted to hear on the record, and it's usually easier to play something yourself than tell someone else what to do (plus that's often insulting to the other musician.)
i wonder if he developed this habit while working on let it bleed, and he just got used to overdubbing is own guitar parts one on top of the other. you can see how it would be a very productive way to work. we certainly can't argue with the results - unless you want to make the argument that it is what drove MT out of the band, which of course was a bad thing.
I doubt that, as Taylor got increasingly more space on the two last albums he played on.
Not on IORR, except Time Waits For No One. As has been said the alternate version of Dance Little Sister has more Taylor on it (and it is better as well):
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Definitely on IORR, too.
IYCRM
TWFNO
DLS
IYRWTBMF
FF
All feature a prominent Taylor. He's pretty important to TTNG as well, the Stones song he hoped to get songwriting credits for.
Disagree. On IYCRM he is buried in the mix and even absent in the last part of the song; on Friend he plays just a nice solo, nothing special or dominant; on FF he only plays bass (that it's done very well has nothing to do with his appreance on IORR. So absolutely not on IORR, certainly not if compared to GHS.
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You can disagree, but he still got lots of room on IORR.
"Only bass". What does that mean?
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You can disagree, but he still got lots of room on IORR.
"Only bass". What does that mean?
No guitar.
And there are even plenty of songs on IORR where he is totally absent.
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You can disagree, but he still got lots of room on IORR.
"Only bass". What does that mean?
No guitar.
And there are even plenty of songs on IORR where he is totally absent.
There are songs on all studio albums where he is absent, except for GHS.
So what if he played bass on FF. He was still given plenty of room to shine. And he did.
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Line-up ‘Mr. D.’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky
Hopkins (p)/Rebop (congas)/Pascal (perc)/& screams from some movie
Line-up ‘100 Years Ago’: MJ (voc)/KR (bass)/MT (gtr)/CW (dr)/Billy Preston
(clavinet)/Nicky Hopkins (p)/Jimmy Miller (perc)
Line-up ‘Coming Down Agan’: MJ (voc)/KR (voc, gtr)/MT (bass)/CW (dr)/
Nicky Hopkins (p)/Pascal (perc)/Bobby Keys (sax)/Jim Horn (sax)
Line-up ‘Doo Doo Doo’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bass, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bvoc)/CW (dr)/
Billy Preston (p, synth, clavinet, bvoc)/Rebop (congas)/Pascal (perc)/
Bobby Keys (sax)/Jim Horn (sax)/Chuck Finley (tp)/Jim Price (arranger
of horns and maybe tb)
Line-up ‘Angie’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/MT (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky
Hopkins (p)/Nicky Harrison (arranger of strings: 8 violins,
4 cellos, 2 violas)
Line-up ‘Silver Train’: MJ (voc, gtr, harm)/KR (gtr, bass, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bvoc)/
CW (dr)/STU (p)/Jimmy Miller (perc)
Line-up ‘Hide Your Love’: MJ (voc, p)/KR (bass)/MT (gtr)/CW (dr)/Jimmy
Miller (bass dr)/Bobby Keys (sax)
Line-up ‘Winter’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (gtr)/MT (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
Nicky Hopkins (p)/Nicky Harrison (arranger of strings: 8 violins,
4 cellos, 2 violas)
Line-up ‘Can You Hear The Music’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr)/
BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky Hopkins (p)/Jimmy Miller (perc)/Rebop
(congas)/Pascal (perc)/Jim Horn (flute)
Line-up ‘Star Star’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
STU (p)/Bobby Keys (sax)
Bill Wyman plays bass on FOUR songs!
Line-up ‘Through The Lonely Nights’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bvoc)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky
Hopkins (p)
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Line-up ‘Mr. D.’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky
Hopkins (p)/Rebop (congas)/Pascal (perc)/& screams from some movie
Line-up ‘100 Years Ago’: MJ (voc)/KR (bass)/MT (gtr)/CW (dr)/Billy Preston
(clavinet)/Nicky Hopkins (p)/Jimmy Miller (perc)
Line-up ‘Coming Down Agan’: MJ (voc)/KR (voc, gtr)/MT (bass)/CW (dr)/
Nicky Hopkins (p)/Pascal (perc)/Bobby Keys (sax)/Jim Horn (sax)
Line-up ‘Doo Doo Doo’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bass, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bvoc)/CW (dr)/
Billy Preston (p, synth, clavinet, bvoc)/Rebop (congas)/Pascal (perc)/
Bobby Keys (sax)/Jim Horn (sax)/Chuck Finley (tp)/Jim Price (arranger
of horns and maybe tb)
Line-up ‘Angie’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/MT (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky
Hopkins (p)/Nicky Harrison (arranger of strings: 8 violins,
4 cellos, 2 violas)
Line-up ‘Silver Train’: MJ (voc, gtr, harm)/KR (gtr, bass, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bvoc)/
CW (dr)/STU (p)/Jimmy Miller (perc)
Line-up ‘Hide Your Love’: MJ (voc, p)/KR (bass)/MT (gtr)/CW (dr)/Jimmy
Miller (bass dr)/Bobby Keys (sax)
Line-up ‘Winter’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (gtr)/MT (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
Nicky Hopkins (p)/Nicky Harrison (arranger of strings: 8 violins,
4 cellos, 2 violas)
Line-up ‘Can You Hear The Music’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr)/
BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky Hopkins (p)/Jimmy Miller (perc)/Rebop
(congas)/Pascal (perc)/Jim Horn (flute)
Line-up ‘Star Star’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
STU (p)/Bobby Keys (sax)
Bill Wyman plays bass on FOUR songs!
Line-up ‘Through The Lonely Nights’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/MT (gtr, bvoc)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Nicky
Hopkins (p)
Thanks very clear outline. So does MT play the harmony lead stuff on Can't You Hear The Music you know? I always assumed Keith plays the tremelo rhythm part that makes it so swampy and MT the high parts.
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CYHTM has guitar that no other Stones song ever had. It's a singular anomaly....Keith's guitar sounds like it's struggling for breath while Taylor is doing a mean Brian May...perfect
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CYHTM has guitar that no other Stones song ever had. It's a singular anomaly....Keith's guitar sounds like it's struggling for breath while Taylor is doing a mean Brian May...perfect
Reminiscent of the slide guitar on I Don't Know Why, but doubled and harmonised.
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One of my least favourite Stones songs. Taylor plays bass? Not on guitar all Richards?
Well it's Keith's song, so not surprising at all.
Angie
I read Taylor plays the acoustic intro and most of the acoustic on this song? I think there is an interview where he says as much. However in the song's video it is Keith playing the part. Also Taylor in the same interview remembered playing lead guitar on Bitch so maybe his memory is faulty on this point.
Who knows the truth on this one, but I wouldn't go by the video.
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Coming Down Again
One of my least favourite Stones songs. Taylor plays bass? Not on guitar all Richards?
Well it's Keith's song, so not surprising at all.
Angie
I read Taylor plays the acoustic intro and most of the acoustic on this song? I think there is an interview where he says as much. However in the song's video it is Keith playing the part. Also Taylor in the same interview remembered playing lead guitar on Bitch so maybe his memory is faulty on this point.
Who knows the truth on this one, but I wouldn't go by the video.
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It's a shame Keith simplifies the intro to Angie live. It's so beautiful on the album version. Live it just sounds like he wants to get the intro out of the way.
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It's a shame Keith simplifies the intro to Angie live. It's so beautiful on the album version. Live it just sounds like he wants to get the intro out of the way.
Hmmm. Yeah he kind of strums through some of the delicate picked lines on later performances of this tune. He did nail them on earlier live performances though. I think he is just playing it safe since he's out there all alone and the risk of flubbing this in front of thousands is greater than the benefit of getting it right (in Keiths mind).