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I would really love to hear and see Slipping Away from the 2nd and/or 3rd show ... Are there any Clips on, couldn´t find anything?

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I would really love to hear and see Slipping Away from the 2nd and/or 3rd show ... Are there any Clips on, couldn´t find anything?

I noticed the questions about the Mick taylor solo in Slipping Away, so I thought I would pay some extra attention to the song.

Keith has two great solo parts in this song. First early on, then later. Ronnie has his solo between these. Then at the very end, just may be 5-10 seconds, Mick Taylor is taking over the closing of the song, as Keith is stepping back from his up front center spot and is heading back towards Charlie to change guitar.

Mick Taylor is on backing vocals, same as Darryl, Lisa and Bernard on this song. It is a beauty. A collaboration between everybody on stage.

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Where else would be state our, um, opinion about Japan setlist?

If you are sitting at home and you are dreaming of a specific set list then you may start a new thread about it..............................
The STONES have been performing their greatest hits at 28 - TWENTYEIGHT - Tokyo Dome shows. When they performed SILVER TRAIN at the 2nd Tokyo Dome show, the crowd listened patiently, and they waited for a song they know better. You may judge by the noise level how popular a song is. Start Me Up, You Got Me Rocking, all the so called war horses. That is why they sell out 28 Tokyo Dome. Not because they play Silver Train.

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In 1990 they played Tokyo Dome x 10 times in 2 weeks.............................................Japan = 10 shows ...(100,000 per night (I read))
In 1995 - Tokyo Dome x 7 times + Fukuoka x 2...............................................................Japan = 9 shows
In 1998 - Tokyo Dome x 4 times + Osaka x 2..............................................................................Japan = 6 shows
In 2002 - Tokyo Dome x 2 times + The Budokan + Osaka x 2 + Yokohama.......................Japan = 5 and 1/2 shows.
In 2006 - Tokyo Dome x 2 times + Sapporo + Saitama + Nagoya.................................Japan = 5 shows
In 2014 - Tokyo Dome x 3 times......................................................................................Japan = 3 shows.......(50,000 per night (I read))

Maybe the samey, predicatable less inspired setlists as years have gone by, have actually been putting people off..........

1 million people in 1990, now down to 150,00 in 2014. That means they've lost 85% of their 1990 following.

I don't think you will earn a master of science by these calculations. Personally I do have one, in mathematics...

1). TOKYO DOME was at sellout 50,000 capacity now, meaning they could have sold more if they wanted.

2). In 1990 the capacity was still 50,000. Same stadium...

3). In 1990 the fans had been waiting for more than 25 years.

Can we please keep this thread about the show reports from Tokyo?

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I'm really surprised to see all these talks about set list, $$$$, statistics etc.. Who the hell cares about this!!??
Tokyo 3 will probably be seen as an historical event for both the fact that this was the last Rolling Stones show in Japan and that the Stones gave everything they had and more to the audience.
Very clear in Brown Sugar, YCAGWYW, Satisfaction, Respectable, MR etc...

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I'm really surprised to see all these talks about set list, $$$$, statistics etc.. Who the hell cares about this!!??
Tokyo 3 will probably be seen as an historical event for both the fact that this was the last Rolling Stones show in Japan and that the Stones gave everything they had and more to the audience.
Very clear in Brown Sugar, YCAGWYW, Satisfaction, Respectable, MR etc...

I enjoyed very much about the extended endings of Brown Sugar and Satisfaction yesterday.

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so are we now saying that Licks or ABB were better, or what?

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so are we now saying that Licks or ABB were better, or what?

Quite the opposite, those tours were worse. Fans didn't want Hand Of Fate, Loving Cup, Worried About You, Stray Cat Blues, etc. The boys wasted their time learning to play those songs.

Now it's getting ridiculous. Please don't call people who don't want to hear Hand Of Fate, Loving Cup, Worried About You, Stray Cat Blues etc. "fans". PLEASE!!!

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I'm really surprised to see all these talks about set list, $$$$, statistics etc.. Who the hell cares about this!!??
Tokyo 3 will probably be seen as an historical event for both the fact that this was the last Rolling Stones show in Japan and that the Stones gave everything they had and more to the audience.
Very clear in Brown Sugar, YCAGWYW, Satisfaction, Respectable, MR etc...

I enjoyed very much about the extended endings of Brown Sugar and Satisfaction yesterday.

Yes Toru, exactly!! They didn't want to stop it.Very special moments.

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I'm really surprised to see all these talks about set list, $$$$, statistics etc.. Who the hell cares about this!!??
Tokyo 3 will probably be seen as an historical event for both the fact that this was the last Rolling Stones show in Japan and that the Stones gave everything they had and more to the audience.
Very clear in Brown Sugar, YCAGWYW, Satisfaction, Respectable, MR etc...

I enjoyed very much about the extended endings of Brown Sugar and Satisfaction yesterday.

Yes Toru, exactly!! They didn't want to stop it.Very special moments.

Ah, you make me remind.

Charlie didn't stop drumming.
Mick was keep on stepping and moaning.
It was an amazing moment.

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I'm really surprised to see all these talks about set list, $$$$, statistics etc.. Who the hell cares about this!!??
Tokyo 3 will probably be seen as an historical event for both the fact that this was the last Rolling Stones show in Japan and that the Stones gave everything they had and more to the audience.
Very clear in Brown Sugar, YCAGWYW, Satisfaction, Respectable, MR etc...

I enjoyed very much about the extended endings of Brown Sugar and Satisfaction yesterday.

Yes Toru, exactly!! They didn't want to stop it.Very special moments.

Ah, you make me remind.

Charlie didn't stop drumming.
Mick was keep on stepping and moaning.
It was an amazing moment.

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BV, I think you aren't giving your Tokyo brothers enough credit. Fans here are very knowledgeable; there are definitely fewer "casual fans" and overall, an older crowd, at a Tokyo show then there would be in the US. I think that a very large segment of the audience would know "Silver Train". Perhaps more than would know "You Got Me Rocking"

The Tokyo crowds were approx 15 years younger than the US crowds. So it is fair to say that the Tokyo crowd was in their 40's average, while US fans are 50's and up average.

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A letter of invitation to Mr. Hotei from The Rolling Stones.
The Rolling Stones have asked if you are in Tokyo and if you would want to come on stage and play a song with them one night?

He is saying after the show that
I never would have guessed appearing their stage as a featured guest followed by playing with David Bowie and the Roxy Music.
Thanks, The Rolling Stones.
Life is "WOW!!"

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A letter of invitation to Mr. Hotei from The Rolling Stones.
The Rolling Stones have asked if you are in Tokyo and if you would want to come on stage and play a song with them one night?

He is saying after the show that
I never would have guessed appearing their stage as a featured guest followed by playing with David Bowie and the Roxy Music.
Thanks, The Rolling Stones.
Life is "WOW!!"

Actually, I am not Hotei's fan. He and his band is not my type. I believe Ayukawa-san is much more suitable as a guest guitarist.
But Hotei looks very happy on the stage playing with Stones.That smile also make me happy.
At that moment, I thought he is the representative of all Japanese rock lovers.


And I know Ayukawa-san is not suitable at the view of popularity.

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A letter of invitation to Mr. Hotei from The Rolling Stones.
The Rolling Stones have asked if you are in Tokyo and if you would want to come on stage and play a song with them one night?

He is saying after the show that
I never would have guessed appearing their stage as a featured guest followed by playing with David Bowie and the Roxy Music.
Thanks, The Rolling Stones.
Life is "WOW!!"

Actually, I am not Hotei's fan. He and his band is not my type. I believe Ayukawa-san is much more suitable as a guest guitarist.
But Hotei looks very happy on the stage playing with Stones.That smile also make me happy.
At that moment, I thought he is the representative of all Japanese rock lovers.


And I know Ayukawa-san is not suitable at the view of popularity.

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The 2014 shows in contrast, sold out immediately helped no doubt by the recovering economy.

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BV, I think you aren't giving your Tokyo brothers enough credit. Fans here are very knowledgeable; there are definitely fewer "casual fans" and overall, an older crowd, at a Tokyo show then there would be in the US. I think that a very large segment of the audience would know "Silver Train". Perhaps more than would know "You Got Me Rocking"

The Tokyo crowds were approx 15 years younger than the US crowds. So it is fair to say that the Tokyo crowd was in their 40's average, while US fans are 50's and up average.

Where did you get this statistic? I don't have any data, but Just based on casual observation at all three shows, and living in Tokyo for most of my 50+ years, I would say most of the crowd was in their 50's and 60's. I find it absolutely impossible to believe that they were 15 years younger than US crowds. I think someone is giving you bad information?

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I would really love to hear and see Slipping Away from the 2nd and/or 3rd show ... Are there any Clips on, couldn´t find anything?

I noticed the questions about the Mick taylor solo in Slipping Away, so I thought I would pay some extra attention to the song.

Keith has two great solo parts in this song. First early on, then later. Ronnie has his solo between these. Then at the very end, just may be 5-10 seconds, Mick Taylor is taking over the closing of the song, as Keith is stepping back from his up front center spot and is heading back towards Charlie to change guitar.

Mick Taylor is on backing vocals, same as Darryl, Lisa and Bernard on this song. It is a beauty. A collaboration between everybody on stage.

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I would really love to hear and see Slipping Away from the 2nd and/or 3rd show ... Are there any Clips on, couldn´t find anything?

I noticed the questions about the Mick taylor solo in Slipping Away, so I thought I would pay some extra attention to the song.

Keith has two great solo parts in this song. First early on, then later. Ronnie has his solo between these. Then at the very end, just may be 5-10 seconds, Mick Taylor is taking over the closing of the song, as Keith is stepping back from his up front center spot and is heading back towards Charlie to change guitar.

Mick Taylor is on backing vocals, same as Darryl, Lisa and Bernard on this song. It is a beauty. A collaboration between everybody on stage.

Thanks for checking into this and reporting in detail ;-)

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BV, I think you aren't giving your Tokyo brothers enough credit. Fans here are very knowledgeable; there are definitely fewer "casual fans" and overall, an older crowd, at a Tokyo show then there would be in the US. I think that a very large segment of the audience would know "Silver Train". Perhaps more than would know "You Got Me Rocking"

The Tokyo crowds were approx 15 years younger than the US crowds. So it is fair to say that the Tokyo crowd was in their 40's average, while US fans are 50's and up average.

Where did you get this statistic? I don't have any data, but Just based on casual observation at all three shows, and living in Tokyo for most of my 50+ years, I would say most of the crowd was in their 50's and 60's. I find it absolutely impossible to believe that they were 15 years younger than US crowds. I think someone is giving you bad information?

I was there. Both places. Japan and USA. I meet people. Many people. And I wsalk around. If you travel you learn and observe and you will see that in some markets new generations do arrive, while in others they just grow older. Nothing wrong with that, but the Japanese crowd was at all ages, 20'2, 30's, 40's, 50's and 60's.