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...and will they be released on memory sticks?
Great marketing idea: The Memory Motel Stick, or The Sticky Finger.
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...and will they be released on memory sticks?
Great marketing idea: The Memory Motel Stick, or The Sticky Finger.
My problem with the " Shine A Light " memory stick was that it was only 512 mb for a two cd set @ 700 mb each cd.They compressed the music.They should have used a 2 GB memory stick > 1 GB for each CD (as there are no 750 mb memory sticks that I've heard of).
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Steven
Want my money? How about L&G on BluRay???
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Unless they are going to include outtakes and unreleased songs, a total waste of plastic. Buy a good turntable, find clean copies of the original lps, and listen to them like they were meant to be heard.
Scotty
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Unless they are going to include outtakes and unreleased songs, a total waste of plastic. Buy a good turntable, find clean copies of the original lps, and listen to them like they were meant to be heard.
Scotty
It's definitely not a total waste,even if they only improve the sound.I don't have a record player in my car and I don't know anybody that does either.
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Unless they are going to include outtakes and unreleased songs, a total waste of plastic. Buy a good turntable, find clean copies of the original lps, and listen to them like they were meant to be heard.
Scotty
It's definitely not a total waste,even if they only improve the sound.I don't have a record player in my car and I don't know anybody that does either.
Does the sound need *that* much improving from the 1994 Virgin releases? If you're gonna be listening to any new material in the car, i've got a shiny sixpence i'm willing to wager that you won't hear that much of a difference...
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Does the sound need *that* much improving from the 1994 Virgin releases? If you're gonna be listening to any new material in the car, i've got a shiny sixpence i'm willing to wager that you won't hear that much of a difference...
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Winning Ugly VXII
The Virgin CD's are not the best thing since sliced bread and in some ways are worse than the old Atlantic & CBS CD's.They are louder but have even less depth than the '80's CD's.
A small improvement would be better than no improvement and not a waste.I would like the material from 1971 onwards to sound as good as the 2002 Abkco discs (even the regular CD layer) of the '60's material.The 2002 release of Beggars Banquet (either layer) is one of the best examples of what can be done these days.
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Gazza
>How about Live Licks? What would be a special disc for that one?
one that doesnt play at all?
It's 2 discs already. Will it include those versions of Hand Of Fate and that stuff that was on singles???
Possible. The original track listing had 33 songs listed (which presumably had substantial edits to enable it to fit onto two discs). the released version (presumably) kept the same edits, but chopped off ten songs and had a running time of 109 minutes - with the edits kept in, even though there was still 50 minutes of space on the discs...
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The Virgin CD's are not the best thing since sliced bread and in some ways are worse than the old Atlantic & CBS CD's.They are louder but have even less depth than the '80's CD's.
A small improvement would be better than no improvement and not a waste.I would like the material from 1971 onwards to sound as good as the 2002 Abkco discs (even the regular CD layer) of the '60's material.The 2002 release of Beggars Banquet (either layer) is one of the best examples of what can be done these days.
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Unless they are going to include outtakes and unreleased songs, a total waste of plastic. Buy a good turntable, find clean copies of the original lps, and listen to them like they were meant to be heard.
Scotty
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ohnonotyouagain
I guess if the current CDs aren't up to snuff soundwise then one more round of remastering is necessary, but I hope this will be the last one.
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drewmaster
This raises the interesting philosophical question of whether there is an upper limit to sound quality. How will music sound in 500 years?
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ohnonotyouagain
I guess if the current CDs aren't up to snuff soundwise then one more round of remastering is necessary, but I hope this will be the last one.
Agreed. I don't enjoy shelling out my hard-earned money any more than the next guy does. Hopefully Universal will put this matter to bed for a long time. I can't imagine their 60's stuff sounding any better, ever, than the ABKCO '02 remasters.
This raises the interesting philosophical question of whether there is an upper limit to sound quality. How will music sound in 500 years?
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Unless they are going to include outtakes and unreleased songs, a total waste of plastic. Buy a good turntable, find clean copies of the original lps, and listen to them like they were meant to be heard.
Scotty
Bingo. How much "better" does the sound need to get? My old vinyl Stones albums sounded great when I first bought them and they still do.
I guess if the current CDs aren't up to snuff soundwise then one more round of remastering is necessary, but I hope this will be the last one. The notion that you can keep tweaking this stuff every few years, ad infinitum, and that the sound will keep getting better and better doesn't seem very likely to me.
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Unless they are going to include outtakes and unreleased songs, a total waste of plastic. Buy a good turntable, find clean copies of the original lps, and listen to them like they were meant to be heard.
Scotty
Bingo. How much "better" does the sound need to get? My old vinyl Stones albums sounded great when I first bought them and they still do.
I guess if the current CDs aren't up to snuff soundwise then one more round of remastering is necessary, but I hope this will be the last one. The notion that you can keep tweaking this stuff every few years, ad infinitum, and that the sound will keep getting better and better doesn't seem very likely to me.
I agree mostly but,this is not an instance of every few years.It's been nearly 15 years since it was last done and digital audio was still very new and not perfected when the other earlier rounds of post-1970 CD albums were released.
If the best possible options for quality are used this time,we shouldn't need anymore CD re-issues after this.
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heh, looks like we're on somewhat different sides of the coin again, drew. I think this question is indeed philosophical, in that is based on the counterfactual assumption that potential sound quality is always improving. I don't think that's the theoretical case, and it's certainly not the actual one. Just compare A Bigger Bang to, say, Beggars Banquet or Let It Bleed. Even a well done current album like Dylan's Modern Times is not especially better than, say, Blonde on Blonde. The reason the 2002 remasters sound so good probably has more to do with the original recordings sounding so good than the modern remastering process being so advanced. No silk purses from sows' ears.
or have you ever heard classic 50s pop and jazz records? Not my favorite styles of music (at least the pop), but I don't think those recordings were improved upon in the age of multitrack recording.
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drewmaster
One assumes that technology is always making things better, but I suppose there's no law saying that has to always be true. I'd propose that outstanding sound quality requires not just great technology but blood, sweat and tears from the sound engineers -- whether in the 1950's or today. ABKCO's remasters (and perhaps the originals too) were clearly a labor of love.