Tell Me :
Talk
Yes. Exactly. And it takes the life out of every serious discussion.
Dude, how the heck I get into ‘it’? I’m out too man!
It’s nonsense.
Lol...go Ronnie go!
As for Charlie, do we know how many horses he owns these days?
Does he even know?
edit: spellcheck.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-21 03:49 by Hairball.
You know what? If I presented you with that shellacked colored setlist of your Staples LA 2013 show, framed, you’d cry. You would. Go Hairball, Go.
I don't think so 35love, but I might cry if given the hand scribbled Vredenberg 2003 setlist.
As for Ronnie's proper art (not scribbled setlists), generally speaking I'm not a huge fan/admirer, but admit I own an original print of his. I met him twice at two private art opening receptions both in Las Vegas. The first show in 2002, Ronnie and I stood in front of one of his paintings of Jimi Hendrix and discussed in depth about his work in general, and briefly about both of our backgrounds as visual artists - he was very cordial and it was cool to talk with him. After hesitating and contemplating, I ended up buying a limited edition screen print of his titled Solo II (1992) for apprx. $350 which depicts him holding his guitar and looking directly at the viewer. Limited to only 600, the print was professionally and elegantly matted and framed by the gallery, and sent to my home a week or so later. Along with the print was a surprise - a personalized signed thank you note on 8" x 11" paper from Ronnie with a cartoon/caricature of himself he drew - big nose and all - which I actually cherish more than the print itself (matted and framed it myself and is hanging next to the print). Evidently the value of the print itself has gone up quite a bit. I think it was Mattlee who gave me the most recent appraisal a few years ago at apprx. $1,000 (more or less), and I imagine it has continued to increase in value since then.
Wow that's alot of horses to feed! He must have truck after truck loaded with bales of hay continuously delivering to his farm on a daily basis - that's alot of hay!
Would be intersting to know some of the names of them - maybe some named after famous jazz musicians like Charlie Parker?
And what are the chances that one of them is simply named Mick?
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Rubbish. This has nothing to do with not respecting different opinions. Read again and read properly - it's all about
this constant, tiresome reducing everything into biased Mick vs. Keith confrontation
that's childish and kills every serious discussion.
Good example for someone who advices other people to "to lighten up a little bit" better start with their own self.
Wrong...here's what I said in reply to one of your posts in regards to you inexplicably thinking Mick was on Trouble.
Note the word "maybe" followed by an "lol"...in other words it was said in jest not meant to be taken seriously.
But you can live in a soap opera drama if you like, meanwhile most of us will continue to approach the topic in a lighter manner.
Yawn...
...yes this is very serious lol!
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
I definitely hear Silver Train in the string bends.
to you too! Yeah, the feel is there, and some of those choons have great ideas in them
Talk about your favorite band.
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Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
retired_dog
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Date: April 21, 2018 03:32
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DoxaQuote
keithsman
I mean defending Mick no matter what and saying he is still a creative genius is just fighting a loosing battle, even Doxa bless him, the ultimate iorr spin doctor fails to convince us no matter how prolific his novels and flights of fancy are.
What? I am defending Jagger as some sort of 'creative genius' because I don't agree that he is having a writer's block? And I fail to 'convince' you and supposed others - if there are any (I hope not) - who belong to this phenomenon I can only see as a cult. The ability to convert some True Believers back to rational secularism doesn't belong to my discoursive arsenal or interest. Why I bother? Because this is a public forum, some issues are interesting, and there probably are people who might find my points interesting or even trying to understand what I try to say.
But this constant, tiresome reducing everything into biased Mick vs. Keith confrontation - I guess it serves someone's agenda, or gives some significance to one's fanhood, but I find it simply childish. I guess anyone can prefer whatever or whoever, but constant trolling with that - be the issue whatever - is just... aargh...
- Doxa
Yes. Exactly. And it takes the life out of every serious discussion.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: April 21, 2018 03:39
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HairballQuote
35love
P.S. “Keithsman”
The only reason I joked w/ you on the infamous Mick Taylor thread
because Hairball egged me on! The Micks chicks stepping in or something.
So chill dude. I won’t play with you no mo.
I lightheartedly said "the Mick brigade" and wasn't referring to anyone specifically or egging anyone on, so please leave me out of this.
Dude, how the heck I get into ‘it’? I’m out too man!
It’s nonsense.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 21, 2018 03:44
Quote
doitywoik
Well, Ronnie has to make up for divorce losses, and the kids want to be fed. He's even painting setlists lately to make ends meet.
And Charlie, them horses eats lotsa hay ...
Lol...go Ronnie go!
As for Charlie, do we know how many horses he owns these days?
Does he even know?
edit: spellcheck.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-21 03:49 by Hairball.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: April 21, 2018 03:46
And - is he even allowed to ride them? He doesn't have a driving licence either, I hear ...
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: April 21, 2018 03:49
Quote
HairballQuote
doitywoik
Well, Ronnie has to make up for divorce losses, and the kids want to be fed. He's even painting setlists lately to make ends meet.
And Charlie, them horses eats lotsa hay ...
Lol...go Ronnie go!
As for Charlie, do we know how many horses owns these days?
Does he even know?
You know what? If I presented you with that shellacked colored setlist of your Staples LA 2013 show, framed, you’d cry. You would. Go Hairball, Go.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: April 21, 2018 03:54
From 2015:
"And Paul Atkinson, who gave Shirley Watts initial encouragement to start the farm and was hired before Joan, presided over a period of extreme growth; according to one report, under his stewardship, the stables expanded from a dozen to 150 horses."
"And Paul Atkinson, who gave Shirley Watts initial encouragement to start the farm and was hired before Joan, presided over a period of extreme growth; according to one report, under his stewardship, the stables expanded from a dozen to 150 horses."
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 21, 2018 04:06
Quote
35loveQuote
HairballQuote
doitywoik
Well, Ronnie has to make up for divorce losses, and the kids want to be fed. He's even painting setlists lately to make ends meet.
And Charlie, them horses eats lotsa hay ...
Lol...go Ronnie go!
As for Charlie, do we know how many horses owns these days?
Does he even know?
You know what? If I presented you with that shellacked colored setlist of your Staples LA 2013 show, framed, you’d cry. You would. Go Hairball, Go.
I don't think so 35love, but I might cry if given the hand scribbled Vredenberg 2003 setlist.
As for Ronnie's proper art (not scribbled setlists), generally speaking I'm not a huge fan/admirer, but admit I own an original print of his. I met him twice at two private art opening receptions both in Las Vegas. The first show in 2002, Ronnie and I stood in front of one of his paintings of Jimi Hendrix and discussed in depth about his work in general, and briefly about both of our backgrounds as visual artists - he was very cordial and it was cool to talk with him. After hesitating and contemplating, I ended up buying a limited edition screen print of his titled Solo II (1992) for apprx. $350 which depicts him holding his guitar and looking directly at the viewer. Limited to only 600, the print was professionally and elegantly matted and framed by the gallery, and sent to my home a week or so later. Along with the print was a surprise - a personalized signed thank you note on 8" x 11" paper from Ronnie with a cartoon/caricature of himself he drew - big nose and all - which I actually cherish more than the print itself (matted and framed it myself and is hanging next to the print). Evidently the value of the print itself has gone up quite a bit. I think it was Mattlee who gave me the most recent appraisal a few years ago at apprx. $1,000 (more or less), and I imagine it has continued to increase in value since then.
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doitywoik
From 2015:
"And Paul Atkinson, who gave Shirley Watts initial encouragement to start the farm and was hired before Joan, presided over a period of extreme growth; according to one report, under his stewardship, the stables expanded from a dozen to 150 horses."
Wow that's alot of horses to feed! He must have truck after truck loaded with bales of hay continuously delivering to his farm on a daily basis - that's alot of hay!
Would be intersting to know some of the names of them - maybe some named after famous jazz musicians like Charlie Parker?
And what are the chances that one of them is simply named Mick?
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: April 21, 2018 04:11
Hmm ... calculating ... 150 horses ... unknown number of vintage cars ... the days on the road ... Charlie likes to sit in his cars ... maybe he likes to sit on his horses too? Car days, horse days - and in between a few days on the road?
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 21, 2018 04:20
Good old Charlie sitting in a car...or on a horse...thinking about jazz musicians...and maybe thinking about how many sets of drumsticks to pack for the upcoming tour.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: April 21, 2018 04:39
Hell, who knows, he might have a collection of vintage drum sticks even!
As for Ronnie, cool story! When I learned all the art on Gimme Some Neck was by him (doesn't the cover say "All drawings by me!" or so somewhere?) I was indeed impressed, he's certainly better at drawing than others. Should there ever be a Rolling Stones graphic novel, let him do the penciling.
When did his drawing/painting activities become known, actually? I learned about it only from Gimme Some Neck.
As for Ronnie, cool story! When I learned all the art on Gimme Some Neck was by him (doesn't the cover say "All drawings by me!" or so somewhere?) I was indeed impressed, he's certainly better at drawing than others. Should there ever be a Rolling Stones graphic novel, let him do the penciling.
When did his drawing/painting activities become known, actually? I learned about it only from Gimme Some Neck.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: April 21, 2018 05:12
Cool story Hairball and ties in w/ topic, year 2002.
I’ve been into learning/ reading more about art 18th century currently/it’s been enriching. I don’t collect and have strong opinions about what’s allowed on my walls, no clutter, lol.
Cheers
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I’ve been into learning/ reading more about art 18th century currently/it’s been enriching. I don’t collect and have strong opinions about what’s allowed on my walls, no clutter, lol.
Cheers
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Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: April 21, 2018 14:38
Quote
retired_dogQuote
DoxaQuote
keithsman
I mean defending Mick no matter what and saying he is still a creative genius is just fighting a loosing battle, even Doxa bless him, the ultimate iorr spin doctor fails to convince us no matter how prolific his novels and flights of fancy are.
What? I am defending Jagger as some sort of 'creative genius' because I don't agree that he is having a writer's block? And I fail to 'convince' you and supposed others - if there are any (I hope not) - who belong to this phenomenon I can only see as a cult. The ability to convert some True Believers back to rational secularism doesn't belong to my discoursive arsenal or interest. Why I bother? Because this is a public forum, some issues are interesting, and there probably are people who might find my points interesting or even trying to understand what I try to say.
But this constant, tiresome reducing everything into biased Mick vs. Keith confrontation - I guess it serves someone's agenda, or gives some significance to one's fanhood, but I find it simply childish. I guess anyone can prefer whatever or whoever, but constant trolling with that - be the issue whatever - is just... aargh...
- Doxa
Yes. Exactly. And it takes the life out of every serious discussion.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
keithsman
()
Date: April 21, 2018 18:51
So the fact that i have different opinions to yours ruins the descussions lol. That's a bit like saying let's ignore everyone with an opposing opinion, let's just get them banned if we can't upset them enough to make them go away.
If you don't agree with my point of view, come back with your point of view, don't attack me personally.
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If you don't agree with my point of view, come back with your point of view, don't attack me personally.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-21 19:01 by keithsman.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: April 21, 2018 20:06
Quote
keithsman
So the fact that i have different opinions to yours ruins the descussions lol. That's a bit like saying let's ignore everyone with an opposing opinion, let's just get them banned if we can't upset them enough to make them go away.
If you don't agree with my point of view, come back with your point of view, don't attack me personally.
Rubbish. This has nothing to do with not respecting different opinions. Read again and read properly - it's all about
this constant, tiresome reducing everything into biased Mick vs. Keith confrontation
that's childish and kills every serious discussion.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
keithsman
()
Date: April 21, 2018 21:07
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-22 01:10 by keithsman.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-22 01:10 by keithsman.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 21, 2018 21:26
"Every serious discussion"....yawn......this isn't some formal college course on the history of the Rolling Stones
Sounds like some people need to lighten up a little bit here.
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Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
...this isn't some formal college course on the history of the Rolling StonesSounds like some people need to lighten up a little bit here.
_____________________________________________________________
Rip this joint, gonna save your soul, round and round and round we go......
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: April 21, 2018 22:07
But ‘some’ posters rhetoric is so ridiculously troll like,
it turns the rest off.
Furthermore, I expressed an opinion about missing Jagger’s voice on ‘Trouble’,
and Hairball went to calling me and I quote: ‘Keith basher’
which I then felt necessary to defend.
Too much drama. So some say F. it.
it turns the rest off.
Furthermore, I expressed an opinion about missing Jagger’s voice on ‘Trouble’,
and Hairball went to calling me and I quote: ‘Keith basher’
which I then felt necessary to defend.
Too much drama. So some say F. it.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
retired_dog
()
Date: April 21, 2018 22:26
Quote
35love
But ‘some’ posters rhetoric is so ridiculously troll like,
it turns the rest off.
Furthermore, I expressed an opinion about missing Jagger’s voice on ‘Trouble’,
and Hairball went to calling me and I quote: ‘Keith basher’
which I then felt necessary to defend.
Too much drama. So some say F. it.
Good example for someone who advices other people to "to lighten up a little bit" better start with their own self.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 21, 2018 22:40
Quote
35love
But ‘some’ posters rhetoric is so ridiculously troll like,
it turns the rest off.
Furthermore, I expressed an opinion about missing Jagger’s voice on ‘Trouble’,
and Hairball went to calling me and I quote: ‘Keith basher’
which I then felt necessary to defend.
Too much drama. So some say F. it.
Wrong...here's what I said in reply to one of your posts in regards to you inexplicably thinking Mick was on Trouble.
Quote
35love
“So let's face it:
KEITH STOLE TROUBLE FROM THE ROLLING STONES”
*did you need these leaks to figure that out?
I knew the first time I heard the song/intro,
and my heart sank when Jagger’s voice didn’t come on.
Also, when they played it on the SHO ‘Billions’
and 4 notes/or so in, I said: Rolling Stones!
*pause, then, OMG it’s ‘Trouble’ from Keith.
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Hairball
"Confused as to why you were surprised (heart sank?) that Mick wasn't on it the first time you heard the song/intro of Trouble when it was clearly put out as a Keith solo tune,
And if memory serves, you were one of the biggest cheerleaders of Crosseyed Heart...maybe you've now had a change of heart? Maybe Mick has swayed you in to becoming a Keith basher?...lol..."
Note the word "maybe" followed by an "lol"...in other words it was said in jest not meant to be taken seriously.
But you can live in a soap opera drama if you like, meanwhile most of us will continue to approach the topic in a lighter manner.
Quote
retired_dog
"Every serious discussion"
Yawn...
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Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
MisterDDDD
()
Date: April 21, 2018 22:51
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-04-22 00:57 by MisterDDDD.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
35love
()
Date: April 21, 2018 22:53
Okay Hairball, please stop reposting my past posts.
I don’t want this kind of attention, and frankly, I’m disappointed.
Taking a break.
I don’t want this kind of attention, and frankly, I’m disappointed.
Taking a break.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
Hairball
()
Date: April 21, 2018 22:58
Just wanted to clarify the situation when being misquoted!
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Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
Rip This
()
Date: April 22, 2018 00:42
..this used to be a fun site. Unfortunately it has devolved. Unfortunate.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
()
Date: April 22, 2018 21:04
who else hears a ghost of Silver Train in the spidery intro to 'Because'? Not to mention a little of Claudine's shuffle...
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
TeddyB1018
()
Date: April 23, 2018 01:22
Quote
peoplewitheyes
who else hears a ghost of Silver Train in the spidery intro to 'Because'? Not to mention a little of Claudine's shuffle...
I definitely hear Silver Train in the string bends.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: April 23, 2018 02:11
Are any of these up on YouTube?
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
doitywoik
()
Date: April 23, 2018 02:20
Haven't seen any yet.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
()
Date: May 20, 2018 17:10
Who is still listening to these?
I am!
Avoiding the concert threads, but needing a fix.
Beacause, Dreams have been swirling round my head for weeks. Listening loud now.
I am!
Avoiding the concert threads, but needing a fix.
Beacause, Dreams have been swirling round my head for weeks. Listening loud now.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
kowalski
()
Date: May 20, 2018 17:45
I am too ! Clearly the songs are not finished but I like the vibes from these sessions. And there's some really good singing from Mick.
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Clearly the songs are not finished but I like the vibes from these sessions. And there's some really good singing from Mick.Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2018-05-20 17:54 by kowalski.
Re: LEAK: 2002 Sessions - Discussion Thread and Info
Posted by:
peoplewitheyes
()
Date: May 20, 2018 17:49
to you too! Yeah, the feel is there, and some of those choons have great ideas in themSorry, only registered users may post in this forum.