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crumbling_mice
My main problem with Stones tours these days, and by these days, I mean in the last 30 years, is that like other bands, they don't make much out of record sales these days and so raise the revenue from tickets sales and merchandise. This is all well and good but for a great many people, they have simply priced themselves out.
When I started going to see live bands in the mid 70s tickets were accessible to everyone price wise and you rarely saw any up sells on tickets or VIP tickets. Some lucky folk got added to the guest list and that was very few by and large.
Prices like we are seeing these days are simply too high for a lot of people and rapidly becoming the preserve of the middle classes....rock concerts are middle class events in many cases -similar to sports events.
It's the way of the world and like most things people saw an opportunity to cash in and exploit and that is what we are witnessing these days....THe Stones are quick to remind us of their largely working class backgrounds, but it seems they have forgotten where they came from.
When I was 16 I could easily afford a ticket for any band on the planet, the percentage of a ticket to my wage was fair....sounding like a grumpy old man, but I feel this is how rock music is killing itself.
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GuessWho
First saw the Stones in 1976 at the Glasgow Apollo.
All seats £3.50 in a 2,500 seater venue
Corrected for inflation - £27.00 in 2018.
So, in Edinburgh this year the equivalent GA is now over £100 (with fees)and seats, apart from those far from the stage, are even more expensive.
As much as I appreciate that the finances of the music business have shifted from record sales to live gigs it has now got out of hand.
Have seen the Stones many times in Scotland but this time round, which will be the last, I can't really justify the cost.
This is not just related to Stones' ticket prices - it's across the board now that "major" acts have ticket prices that are way too high - but people seem willing to pay.
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Hairball
Makes me yearn for the good old days - specifically the 1981 tour (my first) when ALL tickets were priced at apprx. $15.00 (give or take).
Survival of the fittest GA...get their early to line up...even the night before...first come first serve.
Oh, it was NOT a bouquet of roses, my friend.
No No and No.
Go buy 2 $89 tickets and take yer wife.
That’s right, she needs a chair (I don’t even want to ask how long I’ll be standing at the Twick)
Anyway HAIRBALL GO BUY 2 TICKETS TOMORROW MARCH 2
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Hairball
Makes me yearn for the good old days - specifically the 1981 tour (my first) when ALL tickets were priced at apprx. $15.00 (give or take).
Survival of the fittest GA...get their early to line up...even the night before...first come first serve.
Oh, it was NOT a bouquet of roses, my friend.
No No and No.
Go buy 2 $89 tickets and take yer wife.
That’s right, she needs a chair (I don’t even want to ask how long I’ll be standing at the Twick)
Anyway HAIRBALL GO BUY 2 TICKETS TOMORROW MARCH 2
It was not meant to be a bouquet of roses...it was a Rock and Roll concert for crying out loud!!!
Back when the Stones and the fans were still a bit rebellious and dangerous compared to nowadays where it's like visiting a folk music museum with the little ones and old aunt Ethel!
No need to jump the gun on tickets - everything is in flux. Patience is the strategy. If it happens it happens, but seems less and less likely as we're now aiming to head to Europe for the latter part of the summer.
That said, never say never, and in the meantime it's fun reading all the excitement surrounding the upcoming tour.
*(US TOUR 2019)
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35love
So, I spent a week or 2 or 3 listening to a radio station 24/7
to be the 10th caller.
My persistence paid off and I WON!
Picked up the tickets!
I got no show.
1989, I went to the newspaper for sale section where real scalpers lived
called, met, verified, paid my cold hard cash from 2 jobs I was working
GOT MY TICKETS
I got no show.
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Hairball
Makes me yearn for the good old days - specifically the 1981 tour (my first) when ALL tickets were priced at apprx. $15.00 (give or take).
Survival of the fittest GA...get their early to line up...even the night before...first come first serve.
Oh, it was NOT a bouquet of roses, my friend.
No No and No.
Go buy 2 $89 tickets and take yer wife.
That’s right, she needs a chair (I don’t even want to ask how long I’ll be standing at the Twick)
Anyway HAIRBALL GO BUY 2 TICKETS TOMORROW MARCH 2
It was not meant to be a bouquet of roses...it was a Rock and Roll concert for crying out loud!!!
Back when the Stones and the fans were still a bit rebellious and dangerous compared to nowadays where it's like visiting a folk music museum with the little ones and old aunt Ethel!
No need to jump the gun on tickets - everything is in flux. Patience is the strategy. If it happens it happens, but seems less and less likely as we're now aiming to head to Europe for the latter part of the summer.
That said, never say never, and in the meantime it's fun reading all the excitement surrounding the upcoming tour.
*(US TOUR 2019)
Yes I understand the edge of the blade with rock n roll.
You might have slept outside for 2-3 nights, as a female, no.
But, we had the mail order in 1981 in my US state for 1 show.
Both my envelopes came back rejected (Sold Out)
So, I spent a week or 2 or 3 listening to a radio station 24/7
to be the 10th caller.
My persistence paid off and I WON!
Picked up the tickets!
I got no show.
1989, I went to the newspaper for sale section where real scalpers lived
called, met, verified, paid my cold hard cash from 2 jobs I was working
GOT MY TICKETS
I got no show.
As Rockman once famously said:
‘You got your problems, I got mine.’
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35love
So, I spent a week or 2 or 3 listening to a radio station 24/7
to be the 10th caller.
My persistence paid off and I WON!
Picked up the tickets!
I got no show.
1989, I went to the newspaper for sale section where real scalpers lived
called, met, verified, paid my cold hard cash from 2 jobs I was working
GOT MY TICKETS
I got no show.
What do you mean by "I got no show" ?
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paulywaul
I WISH TO COMPLAIN ................. !!!
These ticket prices are far too reasonable.
I DEMAND THE RIGHT TO PAY AT LEAST £1000 PER TICKET !!!
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paulywaul
I WISH TO COMPLAIN ................. !!!
These ticket prices are far too reasonable.
I DEMAND THE RIGHT TO PAY AT LEAST £1000 PER TICKET !!!
Try Viagogo, Getmein, Seatwave, Stubhub or Ticketbastard platinum and I’m sure they’ll be happy to help you
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GuessWho
First saw the Stones in 1976 at the Glasgow Apollo.
All seats £3.50 in a 2,500 seater venue
Corrected for inflation - £27.00 in 2018.
So, in Edinburgh this year the equivalent GA is now over £100 (with fees)and seats, apart from those far from the stage, are even more expensive.
As much as I appreciate that the finances of the music business have shifted from record sales to live gigs it has now got out of hand.
Have seen the Stones many times in Scotland but this time round, which will be the last, I can't really justify the cost.
This is not just related to Stones' ticket prices - it's across the board now that "major" acts have ticket prices that are way too high - but people seem willing to pay.
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GuessWho
First saw the Stones in 1976 at the Glasgow Apollo.
All seats £3.50 in a 2,500 seater venue
Corrected for inflation - £27.00 in 2018.
So, in Edinburgh this year the equivalent GA is now over £100 (with fees)and seats, apart from those far from the stage, are even more expensive.
As much as I appreciate that the finances of the music business have shifted from record sales to live gigs it has now got out of hand.
Have seen the Stones many times in Scotland but this time round, which will be the last, I can't really justify the cost.
This is not just related to Stones' ticket prices - it's across the board now that "major" acts have ticket prices that are way too high - but people seem willing to pay.
Rolling Stones - Manchester - June 5, 2018 at 4:00 PM
1 Lucky Dip @ £ 30.00 = £ 30.00
1 Service Charge @ £ 3.60 = £ 3.60
1 Standard Mail (UK only) @ £ 2.75 = £ 2.75
Total Cost: £ 36.35
*Got in early and the system somehow allowed a single LD..
For 1976 prices!
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paulywaul
I WISH TO COMPLAIN ................. !!!
These ticket prices are far too reasonable.
I DEMAND THE RIGHT TO PAY AT LEAST £1000 PER TICKET !!!
Try Viagogo, Getmein, Seatwave, Stubhub or Ticketbastard platinum and I’m sure they’ll be happy to help you
They would indeed be delighted, but we all know what my sentiments are about these sorts of organisations ! They can go and f**k themselves !!
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Happy24
From the official Lcky Dip info:
"We will be using strict anti-scalper measures to ensure that these tickets go to Stones fans and don’t end up on the resale market with wildly inflated prices."
WHY are strict anti-scalper measures not used for all tickets, but just for a handful of cheapest ones?
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Happy24
From the official Lcky Dip info:
"We will be using strict anti-scalper measures to ensure that these tickets go to Stones fans and don’t end up on the resale market with wildly inflated prices."
WHY are strict anti-scalper measures not used for all tickets, but just for a handful of cheapest ones?
The intent is to give us hard-core fans a deal, (yes, and fill seats) which is why they offer only through RS web-site. The other anti-scalping method they use for reg tickets is to charge scalpers prices, leaving no room for them to profit.
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Happy24
Yeah, I know about this "very nice gesture," my question was rhetorical more than anything else.
From this official statement it is obvious, that strict anti-scalper measures CAN be applied. Yet they are only applied to this extremely limited amount of tickets, while huge amount of good tickets that those real fans (inc. me) would be willing to buy go directly to Platinum Tickets, Seatweave, Viagogo... and in the end it is like "look how nice we are, we offer you Lucky Dips."
Not that LD are not nice, they are for a lot of fans, but it would be a nice gesture if it really was an extra offer to otherwise fairly funcioning system, which it is not.