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bv
To me it is like being married for 40 years and then starting to complain about how your partner is kissing, talking, thinking or eating. Really. Then start thinking about a divorce. Old people don't change.
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Doxa
But I have been always a fan of BV's metaphories and analogies. But even those tell something how the things have changed... There was a time when the question of going to a Rolling Stones concert was that of choosing it over a dozen or so beers at pub. Now the choice is over one's family holiday at Bhuket/Canarias/Hawaii...
- Doxa
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Doxa
But I have been always a fan of BV's metaphories and analogies. But even those tell something how the things have changed... There was a time when the question of going to a Rolling Stones concert was that of choosing it over a dozen or so beers at pub. Now the choice is over one's family holiday at Bhuket/Canarias/Hawaii...
- Doxa
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Jesus, why can people never understand they are doing it for the money and NOT the fans?
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Gfmsoccer
for all the complainers, prices are dropping. Right now you can get $39 tickets for Columbus. Not Lucky Dips, but just regular seats. This will happen in all the stadiums that have not sold out. So be patient, and keep checking the ticket links.
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indystonesfan
Always loved the way they didn't give a damn about fan letters, etc...
By the way I never did get my poster and fan pack from the fanclub website for Licks but I don't care. The payoff was getting 10th row side arena tickets and being eye level with the band on Ronnie's side. Ronnie came over a lot as did Mick and Ketih did his sympathy solo up against the rail.
Those seats were 350 each. Given that was 13 years ago and we get another North American tour I'd say they have not gone up that much.
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Always loved the way they didn't give a damn about fan letters, etc...
By the way I never did get my poster and fan pack from the fanclub website for Licks but I don't care. The payoff was getting 10th row side arena tickets and being eye level with the band on Ronnie's side. Ronnie came over a lot as did Mick and Ketih did his sympathy solo up against the rail.
Those seats were 350 each. Given that was 13 years ago and we get another North American tour I'd say they have not gone up that much.
Sorry Indystonesfan but I don't get that at all. I DISLIKE the way we are generally treated. They do not reward fans, or even seem to really respect us. The only times I really felt like they showed some love was No Security and Licks. Licks was a great tour. Themed setlists, cool stage design inside and out. Stadium/arena/club shows with unique setlists and vibes. Man what a challenging tour.
They could have easily given BV (IORR) and Doug (Shidoobee) a presale code for all shows good for 24 hours, for them so share with us on these fan sites. That would have reached the vast majority of hardcore fans. Instead, we get lumped in with the casual fans who just want to hear the hits.
Sorry buddy, I love the band but do not love them personally. Throughout my lifetime I have paid far more money than I would like to admit to the Stones. They have given me some great music, but never really appreciated/thanked me as a fan. Just saying.
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But I have been always a fan of BV's metaphories and analogies. But even those tell something how the things have changed... There was a time when the question of going to a Rolling Stones concert was that of choosing it over a dozen or so beers at pub. Now the choice is over one's family holiday at Bhuket/Canarias/Hawaii...
- Doxa
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bv
To me it is like being married for 40 years and then starting to complain about how your partner is kissing, talking, thinking or eating. Really. Then start thinking about a divorce. Old people don't change.
I think it is more like one starts to realize that her/his greedy partner is starting to get a bit too demanding luxurywise to live with. You realize that you simply don't have afford to it... Besides, being married to the Rolling Stones is not one could call a happy marriage, since the love tends to go only one direction; the bitch doesn't love you, but just wants your money... but of course, there are lots of marriages like that I guess... Even happy ones... so who am I tell what makes one happy...
- Doxa
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bv
To me it is like being married for 40 years and then starting to complain about how your partner is kissing, talking, thinking or eating. Really. Then start thinking about a divorce. Old people don't change.
I think it is more like one starts to realize that her/his greedy partner is starting to get a bit too demanding luxurywise to live with. You realize that you simply don't have afford to it... Besides, being married to the Rolling Stones is not one could call a happy marriage, since the love tends to go only one direction; the bitch doesn't love you, but just wants your money... but of course, there are lots of marriages like that I guess... Even happy ones... so who am I tell what makes one happy...
- Doxa
More oriented towards the "other complaints" component of the thread, I have not read that much here, but, despite that,I want to suggest another analogy. It emerges from the worship element of this otherwise utterly onesided relation.
Then what applies, to me is not an old relationship between two persons of the opposite (or of the same) sex. Instead it is about a thisworldly religion.
There we then also see the outspring of the deep schisms and need for revelations of old and new material involved, in part interconnected with the splits. Besides, there is holyness or lack of holyness present. And also the turns all this have from time to time during the years. In addition, the role of expositions to the different stanzas, where a forum like this, and this one especially, plays an important part.
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Gfmsoccer
for all the complainers, prices are dropping. Right now you can get $39 tickets for Columbus. Not Lucky Dips, but just regular seats. This will happen in all the stadiums that have not sold out. So be patient, and keep checking the ticket links.
Hey pal...this is the complaining thread...take your optimism somewhere else
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Gfmsoccer
for all the complainers, prices are dropping. Right now you can get $39 tickets for Columbus. Not Lucky Dips, but just regular seats. This will happen in all the stadiums that have not sold out. So be patient, and keep checking the ticket links.
Hey pal...this is the complaining thread...take your optimism somewhere else
I'd like to complain about your rebuttal. It doesn't go far enough.
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bv
To me it is like being married for 40 years and then starting to complain about how your partner is kissing, talking, thinking or eating. Really. Then start thinking about a divorce. Old people don't change.
I think it is more like one starts to realize that her/his greedy partner is starting to get a bit too demanding luxurywise to live with. You realize that you simply don't have afford to it... Besides, being married to the Rolling Stones is not one could call a happy marriage, since the love tends to go only one direction; the bitch doesn't love you, but just wants your money... but of course, there are lots of marriages like that I guess... Even happy ones... so who am I tell what makes one happy...
- Doxa
More oriented towards the "other complaints" component of the thread, I have not read that much here, but, despite that,I want to suggest another analogy. It emerges from the worship element of this otherwise utterly onesided relation.
Then what applies, to me is not an old relationship between two persons of the opposite (or of the same) sex. Instead it is about a thisworldly religion.
There we then also see the outspring of the deep schisms and need for revelations of old and new material involved, in part interconnected with the splits. Besides, there is holyness or lack of holyness present. And also the turns all this have from time to time during the years. In addition, the role of expositions to the different stanzas, where a forum like this, and this one especially, plays an important part.
The moneychangers need to be thrown out of the temple.
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It kind of reminds me of the "sacrifices" one has to make to attend the show;
i.e. 1989 I won tickets took the train, 1994 drove to giants stadium 1997: got ride to Philly, got ride to Giants Stadium 1998, stayed at Hotel Penn..
Then you get to higher ticket prices, days off from work, travel costs. After awhile it does indeed become a "one sided relationship". There has to be some give and take on both sides.
I didn't find the arenas to require as much on my end as it was to cities I go to anyway and I was able to integrate other neat things in for the other 22 hours a day.
Now the relationship feels as though we are somewhat taken for granted and it is assumed we will all be scurrying to spend $420 for Stadium Seats + travel +hotel etc..
In terms of it being like a marriage- its almost like who is attending the wedding? You might be inclined to attend a wedding of friend in 2013 who got married in Las Vegas, NYC, Chicago and most of all Philadelhpia and DC, but come 2015 you might not want to attend a wedding of a friend in Buffalo and Pittsburgh.
Then you worry about the wedding being called off, maybe to due rain etc...
Don't get me wrong- I will be attending shows on the Sweet Sixteen tour next year and will attend MSG in 2017.
Right now I am taking the money I would be spending on one 2015 show and investing it in my portfolio target fund and will use some of the profits for a nice stay at the Hotel Penn.
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hot stuff
Funny its never said but I remember camping out to
get Stones tickets and still end up way in the back.
Back then 75, 78, 81, etc. the scalpers got ALL the great tickets.
So if you wanted good seats back then you paid a scalper
big $$ for better seats.
Stones shows were never cheap or easy.
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.....and yet in the end all the shows will be packed to the rafters....