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crawdaddy
What a great thread this is for anyone who loves to whine and moan about any Stones related stuff.
They have their own dedicated place to air their views.
The Orlando live updates was awful to wade through so many posts moaning about setlist etc. as the gig was actually being played live.
I haven't followed the last few shows live, but I do hope someone can give this thread a bump at showtime in Nashville, and hopefully the moaners will take the hint.
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crawdaddy
What a great thread this is for anyone who loves to whine and moan about any Stones related stuff.
They have their own dedicated place to air their views.
The Orlando live updates was awful to wade through so many posts moaning about setlist etc. as the gig was actually being played live.
I haven't followed the last few shows live, but I do hope someone can give this thread a bump at showtime in Nashville, and hopefully the moaners will take the hint.
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Gfmsoccer
Mick has said it numerous times. Their fans don't want new music. They gave you 16 new songs in 2005 and you didn't buy the album and didn't want those songs in concerts despite Mick's best efforts.
Of course they could do a new album, but what you really want is a reproduction of an early 70's Stones album. A roots album if you will. You don't want a new 2015 sounding album, or you would have bought Bigger Bang and wanted a concert of all those songs.
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Turner68
It's a strange strange forum where someone like cocaine eyes can be banned and yet others are allowed to stay who constantly whine about the set list, mick Taylor, Ron wood and Keith Richards; throw around rumor and innuendo about the band and its members cheating and lying; post and re-post probably false information about band members personal lives, etc. it seems like it might be better to let anything go and let people like cocaine eyes stay or have a much heavier moderation where the haters get banned.
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Cristiano Radtke
Perhaps I'm being too grumpy here (and I'm not that kind of person at all), but I can't understand why there is the need to be complaining about the setlists at every concert, and most important - during the live comments. This is an endless discussion, and in the end we all know that will result in nothing positive. More than that: the Stones will not change their setlists only because some members here doesn't like it.
I completely agree.
I am just happy they are here
Cristiano, I love what you bring to the board, but there were two people who barely complained about the songs on that thread during the show and you truly are perpetuating the myth by continuing to post about it.
I respect your freedom to post as you please but do you really think the set list complainers dominated that discussion? I don't.
BTW: I do personally believe set list complaints are futile and redundant at this point. But I also think saying something like "I'd like to hear more SF songs" is pretty harmless and not really a complaint.
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I've only brought my feelings about it to this thread because I think we have to leave that thread for what's important - the concert reviews.
You are correct about the set list complainings not dominating that thread, but actually this wasn't the only complainings last night - so maybe I expressed myself on a wrong way, when I only pointed this as being the problem.
I know that for the people who didn't followed that thread live, by reading it now it perhaps might seem that there's nothing wrong there. But we've had not only the usual setlist complainings but also some people who were whining about the live setlist not being posted (even with all those periscope feeds going on) and even complaining about the people itself who were periscoping the concert last night.
If you read that thread again (I know you did it, and I did that too), you can see that at some point of the concert - during HTW, perhaps - there was at least 3 or 4 posts of people asking for the whiners to just shut up. And if you pay attention, I didn't do that myself, prefering to post my thoughts about it only when the concert has ended, because this is what was important last night.
And this is what I'm talking about: at the heat of the moment, when you're trying to follow what's going on at the concert, it seems to me that the complaints are - in a bad comparison - like when you're trying to watch a movie and there's a lot of people beside you talking about other things that have nothing to do with the movie, spoiling what was supposed to be a fun moment.
Like I said, I'm not a grumpy person, but there's a time when you see the same things happening all the time and at the same time you don't see nothing changing on that, so that's why I posted my thoughts here.
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HearMeKnockin
The Stones are not interested in music, they're interested in money. They're no longer a band for the people, they're a band for themselves. They simply don't recognize that their fans might appreciate one last effort from the Glimmer Twins that shows they still give a s***. And I doubt that will change any time soon.
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Dreamer
Good post Cristiano! Like you have so many during showtime your posts makes it fun to read the live updates threads.
The band is always exciting whenever of wherever they play regardless what they play. I guess when you're not there sometimes you just can't get excited with number 3119 of SMU or any warhorse which is understandable. It must be hard for people not to post about their feelings obviously but they have to imagine it can spoil the fun for people like you bringing exciting reports and the ones who like reading them. Anyway: your live show updates and other posts are highly appreciated Cristiano!
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Dreamer
Good post Cristiano! Like you have so many during showtime your posts makes it fun to read the live updates threads.
The band is always exciting whenever of wherever they play regardless what they play. I guess when you're not there sometimes you just can't get excited with number 3119 of SMU or any warhorse which is understandable. It must be hard for people not to post about their feelings obviously but they have to imagine it can spoil the fun for people like you bringing exciting reports and the ones who like reading them. Anyway: your live show updates and other posts are highly appreciated Cristiano!
Thanks, Dreamer! I think that at the same time it's fun for the readers to follow the live threads, it's fun for me to bring some infos about the concerts, just like Irix, Green Lady, Nikkei, Mnewman505 and a lot of others have been doing for so long.
I can't tell for the others, but in my case, doing this on almost every concert since 2013 (and I keep doing what I do just for fun, regardless of the whinings), comes a time when you simply can't stand the same discussions all the time, which not only spoil the fun we're having but it's somehow a disrespect with the other users who are trying to know what's happening, so maybe that's the reason why my latest posts about it may seem an overreaction to that, which I can assure you it's not.
To me, the live threads are one of the most exciting things we have on this board, and what some people maybe are not realizing is that we have at least only 9 more concerts on this tour. What happens next? Nobody knows, so I think we should enjoy these remaining shows the best way we can.
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MisterDDDD
During the last concert, I would click on the thread, see all the whining and just go back to watching/listening to the periscopes...
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Hairball
The Rolling Stones LIVE is like a roller coaster with many ups and downs.
Why sit back and be a 100% positive cheerleader when there is something that's not going right? Nobody's perfect, and the Stones in a live setting is a perfect example of that.
As for me, I don't waste my breath and post negativity when all things aren't on track and/or meet my expectations - especially setlists - yawn,
At the same time though I find some of the most interesting posts are the ones that point out the glitches, mistakes, etc., etc.
If we can't discuss a show constructively in a civilized manner (warts and all), maybe we should all cuddle up with a teddy bear,
praise every second, give each other high 5's every other minute, and live in Stones bliss forever.
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crawdaddy
What a great thread this is for anyone who loves to whine and moan about any Stones related stuff.
They have their own dedicated place to air their views.
The Orlando live updates was awful to wade through so many posts moaning about setlist etc. as the gig was actually being played live.
I haven't followed the last few shows live, but I do hope someone can give this thread a bump at showtime in Nashville, and hopefully the moaners will take the hint.
It actuality it contained very few posts of people moaning about the setlist, etc as the gig was being played. I counted only 2 or 3 comments which could be considered such (out of hundreds), and they were hardly insulting or disruptive. Most of the complaints were actually people complaining about the complainers.
Yeah people should refrain from negativity during the shows, but Why blow this out of proportion? Complaining about the complainers is just more of the same really, except worse perhaps because it isn't even about the Stones.
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Rokyfan
Stop confusing things with facts.
The thing is -- anytime anyone says anything remotely negative there are a dozen responding posts from people who get frantic because it somehow upsets their enjoyment of the show. So it is better to keep any sort of criticism out of those threads, otherwise the thread gets ruined by those with dainty sensibilities going on and on about 'whining'etc. etc., as did the orlando thread. AS always, the adolescent screamers set the rules. They won't stop, so it's pointless. Keep it here.
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JTHanis
Seriously, the major complaint should be the arbitrary censoring of the board under the guise of removing "offensive" material. Last summer, there was a witch hunt of people who didn't like Lisa's singing on Gimme Shelter. It was classified as "hate" speech, which was asinine. There were scores of posts how about "Keith sucks", but heaven forbid Lisa was criticized.
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Seriously, the major complaint should be the arbitrary censoring of the board under the guise of removing "offensive" material. Last summer, there was a witch hunt of people who didn't like Lisa's singing on Gimme Shelter. It was classified as "hate" speech, which was asinine. There were scores of posts how about "Keith sucks", but heaven forbid Lisa was criticized.
Totally missed that one thankfully, I've been pretty open lately in my criticism of Lisa's singing. Thankfully no one has jumped on me for my comments or even in defense of Lisa. Were people banned for this or were their posts just removed? Thanks.
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JTHanis
It was a combination of both. It's calmed down since then but the leader always makes a point to praise her. One has to wonder if she's a source of information.
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JTHanis
It's funny that people are complaining about the complainers on the complaints thread. What's next?
Seriously, the major complaint should be the arbitrary censoring of the board under the guise of removing "offensive" material. Last summer, there was a witch hunt of people who didn't like Lisa's singing on Gimme Shelter. It was classified as "hate" speech, which was asinine. There were scores of posts how about "Keith sucks", but heaven forbid Lisa was criticized.
On a separate note, just because people want more from their favorite band doesn't make them complainers. We all share the same idea--love of the Rolling Stones--but sometimes differ in opinions. However, the notion that the leader has promulgated over the years---everything is perfect---is misguided as well.
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Stoneburst
These two issues are of course connected, since by and large it's the people that complain endlessly about 'whiners' that can be found trolling in the MT thread, trying to provoke arguments and flame wars in the hope that BV will shut it down.
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These two issues are of course connected, since by and large it's the people that complain endlessly about 'whiners' that can be found trolling in the MT thread, trying to provoke arguments and flame wars in the hope that BV will shut it down.
Naw he won't shut it down (again). He was nice enough to reopen it once and without it people would likely be starting a bunch of new Taylor threads and Taylor's name would pop up in more threads than it already has.
But I certainly know what you mean. I harmlessly mentioned that ADTL could have used Taylor's help on the Orlando live show thread (it could have) and was totally jumped on! My intention wasn't to disrupt the thread but I'm afraid the reactions to Taylor's name did. Go figure.
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