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Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: October 31, 2012 15:56

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Glancing through this thread, and seeing the attempted analysis of 'whiners' makes me realize that I prefer the whiners.

Good for you. Pull up a chair and stay a while.
People like us know when we're being short changed by the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in The Corporate World

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 15:57

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Date: October 31, 2012 16:00

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:02

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Someone deleted the "'What if....' in a small font" thread.

what if...there's nobody to whine in iorr, does it make a noise? hmmm?

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:02

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treaclefingers
Glancing through this thread, and seeing the attempted analysis of 'whiners' makes me realize that I prefer the whiners.

Good for you. Pull up a chair and stay a while.
People like us know when we're being short changed by the Greatest Rock n Roll Band in The Corporate World

so you're a whinerite, eh?

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:03

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

manners are overrated. rudeness is the key to a thriving messageboard.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: GumbootCloggeroo ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:06

There are two sides of a coin. If we were only allowed to express one side of that coin then this place would be very boring. Not every song or lick or album or music video or whatever that The Stones create is going to be brilliant. Is it the ones that think that everything their favourite band does and touches is gold and therefore get a little too sensitive towards any criticism towards their favourite band?

Who cares. Be critical. Love. Do whatever you want. It's the internet. Don't take it so personally!

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: cowboytoast ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:07

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

manners are overrated. rudeness is the key to a thriving messageboard.

either rudeness or being called a 'troll' for stating my opinion... 'get back in yer cave...troll'...

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:12

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

manners are overrated. rudeness is the key to a thriving messageboard.

either rudeness or being called a 'troll' for stating my opinion... 'get back in yer cave...troll'...

those are some of the best posts ever.

it's a proven fact that messageboards that feature an abundance of politeness and manners almost never last beyond a few months.

name-calling and pettiness are at a premium here, folks. please do your part.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: cowboytoast ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:27

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

manners are overrated. rudeness is the key to a thriving messageboard.

either rudeness or being called a 'troll' for stating my opinion... 'get back in yer cave...troll'...

those are some of the best posts ever.

it's a proven fact that messageboards that feature an abundance of politeness and manners almost never last beyond a few months.

name-calling and pettiness are at a premium here, folks. please do your part.

yes...there is a certain sense of acheivement and hilarity when being called a troll...at least it's not the BOC board...i saw one guy go haywire and threaten physical violence...

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: latebloomer ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:31

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

manners are overrated. rudeness is the key to a thriving messageboard.

either rudeness or being called a 'troll' for stating my opinion... 'get back in yer cave...troll'...

those are some of the best posts ever.

it's a proven fact that messageboards that feature an abundance of politeness and manners almost never last beyond a few months.

name-calling and pettiness are at a premium here, folks. please do your part.

Irony is always welcome in my book, which is what I believe you thrive on StonesTod. The problem with the internet is it's difficult to know without facial expressions or tone of voice whether or not someone is being serious or joking around and that can sometimes get you into trouble. winking smiley

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 31, 2012 16:58

The next conceptual confusion to figure out is the one between "whining" and "being a troll"... are those two related?... Hmm... or are these just different stages of same phenomenon, and one leads to another... hmmm... hmmm...

(1) being critical
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Is there any way to go? Or still to go? Ho far can you go??!!

Probably only one possibilty left... the walk, no the very JUMP to the wild side!

Everybody ready?


Okay let's jump!!!!

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Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: Green Lady ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:04

Doxa, you forgot Getting Banned.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:07

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

manners are overrated. rudeness is the key to a thriving messageboard.

either rudeness or being called a 'troll' for stating my opinion... 'get back in yer cave...troll'...

those are some of the best posts ever.

it's a proven fact that messageboards that feature an abundance of politeness and manners almost never last beyond a few months.

name-calling and pettiness are at a premium here, folks. please do your part.

Irony is always welcome in my book, which is what I believe you thrive on StonesTod. The problem with the internet is it's difficult to know without facial expressions or tone of voice whether or not someone is being serious or joking around and that can sometimes get you into trouble. winking smiley

my tone is...atonal...or something. i do make faces sometimes while posting, but that's usual due to some gastrointestinal issues. and i'm always serious as a heart attack. you think heart attacks aren't serious? they can be deadly business.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:08

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Doxa, you forgot Getting Banned.

Hmmm yeah, probably between stages (3) and (4)... grinning smiley

- Doxa

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:16

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But what is it when one person expresses his/her joy about a video clip, and another poster ridicule the former poster?

Yeah, it is expressing an opinion about someone else's opinion (or joy), but, most of all, showing disrespect and acting stupidly. We are here entering to the realm of good/bad manners

Very well said. There is a major difference between being critical about something and simply trying to take the joy away from someone.

and that difference is....?

Manners

manners are overrated. rudeness is the key to a thriving messageboard.

either rudeness or being called a 'troll' for stating my opinion... 'get back in yer cave...troll'...

those are some of the best posts ever.

it's a proven fact that messageboards that feature an abundance of politeness and manners almost never last beyond a few months.

name-calling and pettiness are at a premium here, folks. please do your part.

Irony is always welcome in my book, which is what I believe you thrive on StonesTod. The problem with the internet is it's difficult to know without facial expressions or tone of voice whether or not someone is being serious or joking around and that can sometimes get you into trouble. winking smiley

my tone is...atonal...or something. i do make faces sometimes while posting, but that's usual due to some gastrointestinal issues. and i'm always serious as a heart attack. you think heart attacks aren't serious? they can be deadly business.

StonesTod has the lucky, but well-earned privileged and unique position here that he doesn't need to use those stupid faces, unlike the rest of us. He is always ironical. But don't try that at home, kids! The guy is a pro. You will get yourselves into trouble!


Oh, I forget: grinning smiley

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Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: Munichhilton ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:20

Can you all stop with the science behind it all and just get back to whining? We got some space to fill...

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:22

Hmm, as one of the perceived "whiners" I want to say that there a few folks here who simply cannot tolerate any criticism (no matter how accurate or well-intentioned) of their precious Rolling Stones. These are people who sincerely believe that every note Keith Richards plays today is as good as it was in 1972, that ABB was just as good as Sticky Fingers, and that Chuck is as great as Nicky Hopkins. To say otherwise is to "take away their joy" or not be a "real fan" - or worse that you "hate" the band (something someone here has constantly accused me of). Reminds me of some baseball fans I know who defend the local team even when their hitters can't hit, pitchers can't pitch, manager can't manage, and they are stuck in last place (to make the analogy complete they also have the highest ticket prices in the league). Now, if my favorite team suffered from these maladies, would I stop loving them? No, but I also wouldn't pretend they were the greatest team in the majors and claim they were just fine. I would point out their difficiencies, as well as any opportunities they mighty have to improve.

Who is worse than "the whiners"? Those who constantly whine about them!

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:31

i'd just like to say: MY san francisco giants can hit, can pitch and can manage. i'm now getting sick of them, cos it was a lot more fun when they didn't win world championships every other year.

i just wanted to say that.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:31

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my tone is...atonal...or something. i do make faces sometimes while posting, but that's usual due to some gastrointestinal issues. and i'm always serious as a heart attack. you think heart attacks aren't serious? they can be deadly business.

Too much Texas BBQ...

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: 71Tele ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:32

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i'd just like to say: MY san francisco giants can hit, can pitch and can manage. i'm now getting sick of them, cos it was a lot more fun when they didn't win world championships every other year.

i just wanted to say that.

Pity me. I'm a NY Mets fan...

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:33

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i'd just like to say: MY san francisco giants can hit, can pitch and can manage. i'm now getting sick of them, cos it was a lot more fun when they didn't win world championships every other year.

i just wanted to say that.

Pity me. I'm a NY Mets fan...

yeah...but you are lucky in that you get to whine. my only whine is that they didn't win it all in 2011. prolly cos buster got busted up or something.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: leteyer ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:38

Is more than fine that people have their opinion and say whatever they feel about the new song, the setlist, the new album or lack of, if they wear robes or whatever....

What I don't understand is why those of us that decided to burn a hole in their pants are treated like idiots, or since we have a ticket or two we are not 'real' or 'hard core' fans. Is like to be a fan one should not be able to afford a f*#{g ticket.

Say what you want but leave us alone. All those of us who, like me have been saving for the last three years to attend a Rolling Stones concert want only to have fun and enjoy the band as long as possible (and we all knew thet were playing again).

That's why I don't call them whinners, because I don't like them calling me stupid, and that's a two way street.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: andrewt ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:47

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Is more than fine that people have their opinion and say whatever they feel about the new song, the setlist, the new album or lack of, if they wear robes or whatever....

What I don't understand is why those of us that decided to burn a hole in their pants are treated like idiots, or since we have a ticket or two we are not 'real' or 'hard core' fans. Is like to be a fan one should not be able to afford a f*#{g ticket.

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X-Pensive Whiners unite!

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Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:53

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That's why I don't call them whiners, because I don't like them calling me stupid, and that's a two way street.

let's make a deal....you call me a whiner and i call you stupid and we both find a way to carry on with our pathetic lives, k?

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: BluzDude ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:57

Actually, it's not a 2 way street.




Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: GravityBoy ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:57

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let's make a deal....you call me a whiner and i call you stupid and we both find a way to carry on with our pathetic lives, k?

This deserves to be made into a fridge magnet.

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: cowboytoast ()
Date: October 31, 2012 17:57

hey did you guys hear that lame-o version of Jumpin' Jack Flash from the other night???....the Stones really suck now... drinking smiley

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: StonesTod ()
Date: October 31, 2012 18:02

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let's make a deal....you call me a whiner and i call you stupid and we both find a way to carry on with our pathetic lives, k?

This deserves to be made into a fridge magnet.

ummm...that's where i got this from already....hello?

Re: Anyone else tired of the whiners?
Posted by: GumbootCloggeroo ()
Date: October 31, 2012 18:04

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71Tele
Hmm, as one of the perceived "whiners" I want to say that there a few folks here who simply cannot tolerate any criticism (no matter how accurate or well-intentioned) of their precious Rolling Stones. These are people who sincerely believe that every note Keith Richards plays today is as good as it was in 1972, that ABB was just as good as Sticky Fingers, and that Chuck is as great as Nicky Hopkins. To say otherwise is to "take away their joy" or not be a "real fan" - or worse that you "hate" the band (something someone here has constantly accused me of). Reminds me of some baseball fans I know who defend the local team even when their hitters can't hit, pitchers can't pitch, manager can't manage, and they are stuck in last place (to make the analogy complete they also have the highest ticket prices in the league). Now, if my favorite team suffered from these maladies, would I stop loving them? No, but I also wouldn't pretend they were the greatest team in the majors and claim they were just fine. I would point out their difficiencies, as well as any opportunities they mighty have to improve.

Who is worse than "the whiners"? Those who constantly whine about them!
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