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If I'm understanding this correctly, some morons want:

A forum about musicians where you don't actually discuss how well the musicians play.

Such silliness - what else interests you? Their tight trousers?

You cant tell the difference between a whine and a discussion?

I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man!

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drbryant
If I'm understanding this correctly, some morons want:

A forum about musicians where you don't actually discuss how well the musicians play.

Such silliness - what else interests you? Their tight trousers?

You cant tell the difference between a whine and a discussion?

I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

you mean there's going to be a surcharge now???

Ok, I'll take that as a know.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-02 22:37 by Max'sKansasCity.

Never let yourself become a public monument, otherwise people will piss on you.

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I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

Or... feel free to be objective and express what you want here as long as it doesn't violate BV's terms.

A lot of people here are musicians themselves; Musicians hear and feel music much differently than non-musicians. We have a much more developed understanding of what we're hearing musically, and I don't know many musicians that are unimpressed by the band - especically from 94-onwards; particulariy because it IS common knowledge that The Stones were truly, at one point in time, The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band.

Non-musician fans who buy into The Rolling Stones in 2012 don't hear what musicians do when checking out the new song or live clips which have leaked. People who are paying for tickets for these events are paying to be At A Rolling Stones Show, to be caught up in the moment, to witness the sight of Jagger, Richards, Wood and Watts (and/or Taylor and Wyman but I'm starting to not really care at all) onstage. Nothing more. Paying for a 'notch' on their list of shows they attend, running the setlists through catalogs, checkmarking songs. Paying to say "I Was There". Buying into the hype is what they do, because - and lucky for them I suppose - they don't hear or understand how shite the music from them is, and has been for nearly 20 years.

So of course they get upset when the bubble is burst, when Toto (the dog, not the group that released "Africa") pulls the screen away from The Wizard, so to speak. Since they don't know how to communicate about the poor music, that they are not even hearing properly, they bring down our objectiveness to a base level of merey 'complaining' or... 'whining'. And understandably they get upset about it.

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Never let yourself become a public monument, otherwise people will piss on you.

peace

Anybody else catch the South Park episode this week?? ... it dealt with this very concept... those South Park are geniuses who tell the truth with great humor.... but also very sobering... sobering humor.


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Never let yourself become a public monument, otherwise people will piss on you.

peace

Anybody else catch the South Park episode this week?? ... it dealt with this very concept... those South Park are geniuses who tell the truth with great humor.... but also very sobering... sobering humor.


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Sorry Max, no TV for this guy. Although South Park definately has entertained me in the past. The world is a sobering place these days, glad these South Park writers are making people think a bit. peace

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I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

Or... feel free to be objective and express what you want here as long as it doesn't violate BV's terms.

A lot of people here are musicians themselves; Musicians hear and feel music much differently than non-musicians. We have a much more developed understanding of what we're hearing musically, and I don't know many musicians that are unimpressed by the band - especically from 94-onwards; particulariy because it IS common knowledge that The Stones were truly, at one point in time, The World's Greatest Rock and Roll Band.

Non-musician fans who buy into The Rolling Stones in 2012 don't hear what musicians do when checking out the new song or live clips which have leaked. People who are paying for tickets for these events are paying to be At A Rolling Stones Show, to be caught up in the moment, to witness the sight of Jagger, Richards, Wood and Watts (and/or Taylor and Wyman but I'm starting to not really care at all) onstage. Nothing more. Paying for a 'notch' on their list of shows they attend, running the setlists through catalogs, checkmarking songs. Paying to say "I Was There". Buying into the hype is what they do, because - and lucky for them I suppose - they don't hear or understand how shite the music from them is, and has been for nearly 20 years.

So of course they get upset when the bubble is burst, when Toto (the dog, not the group that released "Africa") pulls the screen away from The Wizard, so to speak. Since they don't know how to communicate about the poor music, that they are not even hearing properly, they bring down our objectiveness to a base level of merey 'complaining' or... 'whining'. And understandably they get upset about it.

The Rolling Stones got to be bashed for over 50 years now, by musicians and non-musicians.

And The Rolling Stones are not a "boygroup" anymore ...

But it seems some fans here want The Rolling Stones can turn the wheels of life back.

And that's impossible.

But it's not The Rolling Stones fault.

Don't bash them for that anymore,

please!



And: The Rolling Stones did get their fans by playing with emotions. They can do this very well, over 50 years, still counting.

And it is impossible to "diskuss" emotions and feelings.

You can feel something, you can talk about your feelings, but you are only one of many others with different feelings.

Respect the uncountable different feelings,

please!


Respect yourselves, respect The Rolling Stones!




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I agree with you on this

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If I'm understanding this correctly, some morons want:

A forum about musicians where you don't actually discuss how well the musicians play.

Such silliness - what else interests you? Their tight trousers?

You cant tell the difference between a whine and a discussion?

I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

Why don't you help us all out by listing the adjectives we can and cannot use, and the types of opinions that are acceptable to you. I will then know what I can and cannot share here. After all, you're the boss, it seems.

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Why don't you help us all out by listing the adjectives we can and cannot use, and the types of opinions that are acceptable to you. I will then know what I can and cannot share here. After all, you're the boss, it seems.

Now come on, stop whining

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Heck I hope salacious isn't on the cannot list .....



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drbryant
If I'm understanding this correctly, some morons want:

A forum about musicians where you don't actually discuss how well the musicians play.

Such silliness - what else interests you? Their tight trousers?

You cant tell the difference between a whine and a discussion?

I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

Why don't you help us all out by listing the adjectives we can and cannot use, and the types of opinions that are acceptable to you. I will then know what I can and cannot share here. After all, you're the boss, it seems.

First: Don't call other fans and members of IORR message board marons anymore, drbryant. That would be nice, and after you succeed in doing so, you will be ready for some following insights, going easier in this way to your relaxed brain ...

Open Your Mind!

Please!



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Heck I hope salacious isn't on the cannot list .....

I didn't even know that word. Had to look it up. I think it's cool

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Yeah Hansie
....it's a Stones word ain't it ...
I mean ya'd never use it for Dylan would ya ...Lets hope it ain't on the cannot list



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On the contrary. I'm a bit tired of the constant fanboys, who will praise everything they do. I think the Stones have got away too easy. They would have benefited from more honest critisism. After doing another stillborn ten minutes version of JJF or HTW they should have had eggs or tomatoes thrown at them instead of a massive round of applause from the public. That would have forced them to progress!
And what about the press? One journalist dared to share his honest opinion about the band (and especially Keith's achievements) - he was threatened to his life! What about the other journalists? Are they fanboys too?

+1

The Stones built their legend and they'll live off of it.



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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

Keep on whining, it's like a therapeuthic shampoo to me.

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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

Keep on whining, it's like a therapeuthic shampoo to me.

do you need a conditioner with that, though? or is that mixed in with it?

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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

Keep on whining, it's like a therapeuthic shampoo to me.

do you need a conditioner with that, though? or is that mixed in with it?

Anti-dandruff for 38 years already.

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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

Keep on whining, it's like a therapeuthic shampoo to me.

do you need a conditioner with that, though? or is that mixed in with it?

Anti-dandruff for 38 years already.

The pathetic thing is that if you drop the head and shoulders, in 2 weeks you'll be brushing flakes off your shoulders. wah.

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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

Keep on whining, it's like a therapeuthic shampoo to me.

do you need a conditioner with that, though? or is that mixed in with it?

Anti-dandruff for 38 years already.

The pathetic thing is that if you drop the head and shoulders, in 2 weeks you'll be brushing flakes off your shoulders. wah.

From whining to dandruff?

I was very tired of the whiners up to last night, but the extra hour of sleep this morning with the move from Daylight Savings Time has be freshened for a new bout of whininess.

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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

Keep on whining, it's like a therapeuthic shampoo to me.

do you need a conditioner with that, though? or is that mixed in with it?

Anti-dandruff for 38 years already.

The pathetic thing is that if you drop the head and shoulders, in 2 weeks you'll be brushing flakes off your shoulders. wah.

i use Prell, the hard stuff. A hundred proof - takes your roots out.

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If I'm understanding this correctly, some morons want:

A forum about musicians where you don't actually discuss how well the musicians play.

Such silliness - what else interests you? Their tight trousers?

You cant tell the difference between a whine and a discussion?

I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

Why don't you help us all out by listing the adjectives we can and cannot use, and the types of opinions that are acceptable to you. I will then know what I can and cannot share here. After all, you're the boss, it seems.

First: Don't call other fans and members of IORR message board marons anymore, drbryant. That would be nice, and after you succeed in doing so, you will be ready for some following insights, going easier in this way to your relaxed brain ...

Open Your Mind!

Please!



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That's fair. I should not have used the term. What I should have said is that I think it is meaningless to have a Stones forum where criticizing Keith or Ronnie's playing on a given night or on a given tour is off limits because of their age or because of Keith's arthritis. The guitar playing, the solos, etc. - it's what Stones fans and boot collectors have been talking about for as long as I can remember.

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I like reading honest opinions. Calling critisicm of Rolling Stones way of dealing with tickets and audience, not taking chances, playing for bankers etc for "whining" is not correct.
Honest opinions or reviews about the guitarists playing is not "whining" either. THe only real whining taking place here is whining about other peoples opinon and impressions

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i'm tired of us, too. the real question is: what are we gonna DO about it??

Keep on whining, it's like a therapeuthic shampoo to me.

do you need a conditioner with that, though? or is that mixed in with it?

Anti-dandruff for 38 years already.

The pathetic thing is that if you drop the head and shoulders, in 2 weeks you'll be brushing flakes off your shoulders. wah.

i use Prell, the hard stuff. A hundred proof - takes your roots out.

Let's have another wig thread then.

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If I'm understanding this correctly, some morons want:

A forum about musicians where you don't actually discuss how well the musicians play.

Such silliness - what else interests you? Their tight trousers?

You cant tell the difference between a whine and a discussion?

I hope we can all agree that discussions are cool but whining is a different story altogether. If you want to whine then feel free not to share it here.

Why don't you help us all out by listing the adjectives we can and cannot use, and the types of opinions that are acceptable to you. I will then know what I can and cannot share here. After all, you're the boss, it seems.

First: Don't call other fans and members of IORR message board marons anymore, drbryant. That would be nice, and after you succeed in doing so, you will be ready for some following insights, going easier in this way to your relaxed brain ...

Open Your Mind!

Please!



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That's fair. I should not have used the term. What I should have said is that I think it is meaningless to have a Stones forum where criticizing Keith or Ronnie's playing on a given night or on a given tour is off limits because of their age or because of Keith's arthritis. The guitar playing, the solos, etc. - it's what Stones fans and boot collectors have been talking about for as long as I can remember.

Yes, there has ever been a diskussion about The Rolling Stones working (see my post above ...), but there is no need to fight against fans, who like something others don't like, and vice versa.

And, btw., it's possible to criticize without hurting, I think.

Sometime some fans are asking / crying / whining for impossibilities,


me too, perhaps ...