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71Tele
The GRRR album cover is a shit sandwich. 3rd rate art. Really, was someone drunk when they thought of this? A bad concept badly executed. Any attempt to compare this cover to Exile or any other decent thing they've done is a stretch at best, and I feel sorry for those trying to force themselves to like it, it sounds like a great example of Emperor's New Clothes syndrome. Sometimes a disaster is just a disaster. How low will the bar go, and at what point will people stop making rationalizations for what is clearly a band that has degenerated musically as well as in other ways? Glad we got the SG and Exile reissues, as well as Brussels because we have something very clear and great we can compare this rubbish to.
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71Tele
The GRRR album cover is a shit sandwich. 3rd rate art. Really, was someone drunk when they thought of this? A bad concept badly executed. Any attempt to compare this cover to Exile or any other decent thing they've done is a stretch at best, and I feel sorry for those trying to force themselves to like it, it sounds like a great example of Emperor's New Clothes syndrome. Sometimes a disaster is just a disaster. How low will the bar go, and at what point will people stop making rationalizations for what is clearly a band that has degenerated musically as well as in other ways? Glad we got the SG and Exile reissues, as well as Brussels because we have something very clear and great we can compare this rubbish to.
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DiscoVolante
I believe this wasn't very popular in 1972 either..
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James Kirk
Don't forget that some stuff from the Some Girls and Exile re-issues were essentially new songs. Songs like Plundered my Soul and Following the River may have their genesis many years ago, but let's face it they are a lot closer to being new Stones songs than some long lost gems.
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Yesterday I listened to the new records by Ian Hunter, Bob Dylan, ZZ-Top.
All records sound good especially ZZ-Top. Rubin has made them sound so well.
But I don't think those albums are needed anymore. No outstanding songs. An ongoing repetition of what we all know already. If we wouldn't know their names nobody would care. Mark Knopfler even pulled out a double album which is I'm sorry to say an overall dull moment. The Stones are 70 years old guys and yes I also miss a highlight like waht they did in the 60s and eraly 70s. But frankly said I don't expect them to come up with something brilliant. I don't know an artist who has come up with something real remarkable after their career peak time.
Excellent observation. It brings back the focus to the simple fact that the Stones have already explored every single point in their musical universe - which is larger than the musical universes of most other artists anyway - not only one, but multiple times.
It's not a matter of creativity or age - they have done it all already, there is nothing left to add.
That said, I experienced that I enjoyed a small little ditty like Little Baby from Stripped tremendously, and most probably more than anything they released since then. Maybe just because it sounds effortlessly, just because it's no big production, just because you hear that they simply enjoy playing it, just because it at least sounds like they are playing together,live in the studio.
At this stage, an album full of "Little Babies" would be enough for me. Whatever they chose to record - honest recordings of them enjoying playing together would do the trick.
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Think someone will make it a username?
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I am alway looking forward to new songs. So here is the question. Will Universal (and/ or the Stones) be greedy and NOT allow the two songs to be purchased individually on iTunes or will they be creeps and insist that we buy a 3 cd set to pick up two singles? I am aware that I have the freedom to not purchase anything, but I do want the new songs, because as a fan - I know that I will enjoy them!
What'S your suggestion? Mine is clear. They'll suck big time.
I hear they are "killer". Best Stones since Bridges.
MSSR50, I want to thank you for being such a good sport about all my needling comments regarding your being a Stones Inc. insider/secret agent man--after all, I say such things all in the spirit of good fun. I also want to thank you for complimenting me on page 3 of the september 4..... what do you expect thread for having such a "fabulous imagination", which, as a creative poet/musician type, I certainly do. I would also like to let you in on the fact that I possess certain psychic abilities as well, because, also on page 3 of the september 4..... what do you expect thread, in my post of September 5, I accurately predicted that you would proclaim the 2 new tracks on GRRR! as "the most brilliant tracks they've recorded since Bulges To Bubble-on", and sure enough, just 38 hours later in your post in this thread on September 6, you did indeed proclaim these 2 new tracks as the "best Stones since Bridges."
So you are indeed an insider--or at least, you know someone who has heard the 2 new tracks before the general public has, because why else would you proclaim songs as "killer" before you've even heard them? That would be putting the cart before the horse. And you're far too shrewd to be putting carts before horses, or counting chickens before they hatch. I like you, MSSR50--the almost unbearably upbeat, unfailingly positive tone of your posts, while appearing to contain a whiff of a certain hidden PR agenda, is most entertaining for sure.
Ah, but that's just my "fabulous imagination" at work again--fabulous, yes, and, as you can see from how my prediction of your "best Stones since Bridges" quote was foretold, also containing a hint of psychic-based truth.... Hey, how do you know I'm not in the room with you right now, unseen?--I could be looking over your shoulder the very moment you are reading this, like an apparition.... BOO! GRRR!
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"I feel more sorry for those trying to force themselves to like the Obamao Presidency..."
Huh?
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MightyStonesStillRollin50
Am I an insider? I am definitely an "outsider" here at IORR. Seem to have a knack for pissing off all the "Anti-Stones" that troll about around here.
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James Kirk
Don't forget that some stuff from the Some Girls and Exile re-issues were essentially new songs. Songs like Plundered my Soul and Following the River may have their genesis many years ago, but let's face it they are a lot closer to being new Stones songs than some long lost gems.
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hbwriter
- this is a minor piece in the puzzle - yeah it's kind of a 'thud', esp, given how cool the bootleg stuff has been - but there is more coming - lots more - just one thing - don't anyone be *shocked* if the '13 tour is instead a '14 tour - not saying just saying
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- this is a minor piece in the puzzle - yeah it's kind of a 'thud', esp, given how cool the bootleg stuff has been - but there is more coming - lots more - just one thing - don't anyone be *shocked* if the '13 tour is instead a '14 tour - not saying just saying
Oh man, Chris.
You just ruined my day.
I'm getting tired of waiting...
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The 4 Licks tracks should not be on it.
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71Tele
The GRRR album cover is a shit sandwich. 3rd rate art. Really, was someone drunk when they thought of this? A bad concept badly executed. Any attempt to compare this cover to Exile or any other decent thing they've done is a stretch at best, and I feel sorry for those trying to force themselves to like it, it sounds like a great example of Emperor's New Clothes syndrome. Sometimes a disaster is just a disaster. How low will the bar go, and at what point will people stop making rationalizations for what is clearly a band that has degenerated musically as well as in other ways? Glad we got the SG and Exile reissues, as well as Brussels because we have something very clear and great we can compare this rubbish to.
I was thinking along the same lines as you until I saw the funny side, as you'll know Tele, (I've read enough of your posts to know you've got the nous) humour can't always be rationalised, (so no rationalisation on my part other than to say it eventually made me laugh).......
Just to check I wasn't being influenced too much by my inevitable bias towards the band - being a fan and all that - I showed it to a friend without any preamble about what's been said on here, she likes the Stones but is not a fan really - I opened the IORR page and she just said that...."That's really funny"....................soo.........as I say she's got no agenda or hope or care about the band and what they do or don't one way or the other.....?
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71Tele
The GRRR album cover is a shit sandwich. 3rd rate art. Really, was someone drunk when they thought of this? A bad concept badly executed. Any attempt to compare this cover to Exile or any other decent thing they've done is a stretch at best, and I feel sorry for those trying to force themselves to like it, it sounds like a great example of Emperor's New Clothes syndrome. Sometimes a disaster is just a disaster. How low will the bar go, and at what point will people stop making rationalizations for what is clearly a band that has degenerated musically as well as in other ways? Glad we got the SG and Exile reissues, as well as Brussels because we have something very clear and great we can compare this rubbish to.
Trying to force themselves to like it? I don't have any reason to be forced to like any new product of the Stones. Nor I don't think the cover needs any "rationalization" any more than the guy with three eggs in his mouth in thw cover of EXILE. I just find that cover extremily funny, and it puts me into good mood everytime I see it. Of course I could "rationalize" why I see it funny, but that's just explaining that phenomenon. The cover does not need any justification. I like it as it is.
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71Tele
The GRRR album cover is a shit sandwich. 3rd rate art. Really, was someone drunk when they thought of this? A bad concept badly executed. Any attempt to compare this cover to Exile or any other decent thing they've done is a stretch at best, and I feel sorry for those trying to force themselves to like it, it sounds like a great example of Emperor's New Clothes syndrome. Sometimes a disaster is just a disaster. How low will the bar go, and at what point will people stop making rationalizations for what is clearly a band that has degenerated musically as well as in other ways? Glad we got the SG and Exile reissues, as well as Brussels because we have something very clear and great we can compare this rubbish to.
I was thinking along the same lines as you until I saw the funny side, as you'll know Tele, (I've read enough of your posts to know you've got the nous) humour can't always be rationalised, (so no rationalisation on my part other than to say it eventually made me laugh).......
Just to check I wasn't being influenced too much by my inevitable bias towards the band - being a fan and all that - I showed it to a friend without any preamble about what's been said on here, she likes the Stones but is not a fan really - I opened the IORR page and she just said that...."That's really funny"....................soo.........as I say she's got no agenda or hope or care about the band and what they do or don't one way or the other.....?
Well, Eddie, maybe you're right. Admittedly I am looking at it from a perspective of a fan who is used to a certain standard from the group. Perhaps the gorilla is a reach toward more casual fans...still, it's rather below par for my money.