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stonesstein
OK, here's to get some real fire going among the Zep-heads. While Zep's 77 US tour was a few years ahead of my time for travel, I have always been a HUGE fan and collector.
For my money, "Achilles' Last Stand" is their finest moment (and WHAT a HUGE moment!) and this is, worlds' away, their finest LP:
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whitem8
Well Jimmy Page has said that is his favorite Zep album in a number of interviews. I love Presence and don't understand Zep "fans" who don't revel in its beauty. Achille's Last Stand is brilliant. They are all firing in complete harmony. The live version from Knebworth is incredible!
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24FPS
I always thought of Presence as the first downward album in their arc, akin to Goats Head Soup. They'd peaked with Physical Graffiti and now it was going to be a slow descent, just as the Stones had peaked with Exile. Like the Stones they continued being hot on the road for a while. I saw Zep in '77 and though Robert Plant's voice was no longer as strong, the Page & Bonham interplay was still magical.
I also saw Led Zeppelin in 1970. They were incredible both times. At times their dynamics far surpassed the Stones. But the Stones were also much funkier. There seems to be an undercurrent of condescension on the part of the Stones concerning Led Zeppelin. Seems to me they were annoyed, and rightfully so, by one of the few groups that gave them a run for their money, and actually sold more albums a number of times.
The first Led Zeppelin album, regardless of plagiarism, is a singular work of art that shot the blues into outer space. Led Zeppelin seemed built for the short haul, and the Stones for 50 and Counting.
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Aquamarine
(I know I swore to myself I'd keep out of this thread, but) All the initially-blues-based bands that started in this era did that, though, including the Stones. Blues singers/writers themselves weren't too particular about writing credits.
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slew
I have not listened to Presence in years I'll have to give it a listen. I do like Achilles. My favorite has always been their first album. I also like III. I have heard IV so often that I don't really care for it although I will admit it was/is a great album that is why I've heard it so much. In Through the Out Door is a fairly good album as well. Maybe if Bonham had lived Zep may have gone in another direction. Though like Hendrix Zep had their time and what a time it was there is nothing in their catalog that you could really say is lousy. The Stones do have some things that are uneven and not as good as other but that will happen over the course of fifty years. Two of the truly great bands of rock and roll.
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stonesstein
And then, Presence. And to me, this LP is the epic of all of their LPs, because each song is wholly different and distinct from all others. Achilles, as I started out saying, happens to be my vote for their finest moment, ever, anywhere. Hots On For Nowhere is an explosion of energy between the members f the band and Percy striving to keep up with them. The vocals alone make this track unreal, let alone the drum and guitar trax. Nobody's Fault But Mine, stolen, yes, but it is SUCH a powerful statement and it rocks out loud. Tea for One, to me, out-"Since I've Been Loving You"'s "Since I've Been Loving You." It is a stunning track of controlled tension and masterful guitar work by Jimmy Page. For Your Life seems like a toss-away, right? Until one recalls that it alone was the resurrected, never-been-done-before track at the 2007 Reunion Show. The band thinks a lot of it, and it rocks heavy, kinda like I or II. Candy Store Rock is Elvis posturing, and Royal Orleans ends the list with a real kick in the pants drive and uplift.
Say what you will, but for me, THIS is the record that I reach for when Zeppelin is desired.
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MILKYWAY
I thought the band peaked with CODA................
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24FPS
The first Led Zeppelin album, regardless of plagiarism, is a singular work of art that shot the blues into outer space. Led Zeppelin seemed built for the short haul, and the Stones for 50 and Counting.
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24FPS
The first Led Zeppelin album, regardless of plagiarism, is a singular work of art that shot the blues into outer space. Led Zeppelin seemed built for the short haul, and the Stones for 50 and Counting.
The first Led Zeppelin album isn't a singular work of art by any means. Jeff Beck provided the blueprint for it on Truth.
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24FPS
The first Led Zeppelin album, regardless of plagiarism, is a singular work of art that shot the blues into outer space. Led Zeppelin seemed built for the short haul, and the Stones for 50 and Counting.
The first Led Zeppelin album isn't a singular work of art by any means. Jeff Beck provided the blueprint for it on Truth.
Ironic isn't it that Page and JP Jones also appeared on Truth.
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stonehearted
Ironic isn't it that Page and JP Jones also appeared on Truth.
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stonehearted
Ironic isn't it that Page and JP Jones also appeared on Truth.
Technically, that's the 'truth', but don't they appear on Beck's Bolero? A track that was recorded a couple of years prior to the LP's release and thus, not part of the Truth sessions.
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seitan
Zeppelin is the worlds greatest cover band. Nothing more.
Nobody has done so unique cover versions - too bad they didnt give any credit for the song writers. too bad they dont have any songwriting skilles of their own and all they can do is cover songs/plagiarism.
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stonehearted
Ironic isn't it that Page and JP Jones also appeared on Truth.
Technically, that's the 'truth', but don't they appear on Beck's Bolero? A track that was recorded a couple of years prior to the LP's release and thus, not part of the Truth sessions.
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seitan
Zeppelin is the worlds greatest cover band. Nothing more.
Nobody has done so unique cover versions - too bad they didnt give any credit for the song writers. too bad they dont have any songwriting skilles of their own and all they can do is cover songs/plagiarism.
They've got plenty of songwriting "skilles"...
Good Times Bad Times
Communication Breakdown
Your Time Is Gonna Come
What Is and What Should Never Be
Thank You
Hearbreaker
Living Loving Maid
Ramble On
Immigrant Song
Celebration Day
Since I've Been Loving You
Tangerine
That's The Way
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
Hey Hey What Can I Do
Black Dog
Rock and Roll
The Battle of Evermore
Stairway To Heaven
Misty Mountain Hop
Going to California
The Song Remains The Same
The Rain Song
Over the Hills and Far Away
Dancing Days
The Ocean
The Rover
Houses of the Holy
Trampled Under Foot
Kashmir
In The Light
Down By The Seaside
Ten Years Gone
Night Flight
The Wanton Song
Boogie With Stu
Black Country Woman
Sick Again
Achilles Last Stand
For Your Life
Royal Orleans
Candy Store Rock
Hots On For Nowhere
Tea for One
In The Evening
Fool in the Rain
All My Love
Ozone Baby
I'm Gonna Crawl
Yeah, they ripped off people...but they could write their own stuff, too.
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24FPS
The first Led Zeppelin album, regardless of plagiarism, is a singular work of art that shot the blues into outer space. Led Zeppelin seemed built for the short haul, and the Stones for 50 and Counting.
The first Led Zeppelin album isn't a singular work of art by any means. Jeff Beck provided the blueprint for it on Truth.
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24FPS
It is to my ears. It's like saying Sgt. Pepper wasn't a singular work of art because of Pet Sounds. Led Zeppelin kicked it all up a notch in the ears of the general public.
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24FPS
It is to my ears. It's like saying Sgt. Pepper wasn't a singular work of art because of Pet Sounds. Led Zeppelin kicked it all up a notch in the ears of the general public.
The production is quite a step above that found on Truth.
Truth and LZI being similar is understandible given that Beck and Page were friends and on a partly shared similar musical path since they met.
There's similarities between their playing and sounds throughout the sixties. They both found the sound of their post Yarbirds bands during Beck's Bolero session. Dynamic fuzzy blues with a heavy rhythm section.
Truth and LZI are both ace!