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Since these are confirmed to come through a Nicky connection, this could also be his headphone mixes. I could imagine him wanting a lot of Taylor in his cans.
And then him asking the engineer to run him off some tapes; and for convenience sake, since they were probably for work purposes he stuck with the rough headphone mix.
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So cool to see new stuff turning up!
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Stones62
So cool to see new stuff turning up!
I still haven't heard anything NEW here. Am I missing something. Just bad mixes from the same old master tapes is my guess. Why all the friggin excitement over this?
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Silver Dagger
I don't like doing torrent sites. Is there another way of downloading the Exile outtake stuff Erik? Has it ever appeared in Hotstuff?
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thijs1981
BTW: The new instrumental has totally different chords then Tops. It really is new, though there are similarities to many of their ballads from the same period.
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Palace Revolution 2000
Since these are confirmed to come through a Nicky connection, this could also be his headphone mixes. I could imagine him wanting a lot of Taylor in his cans.
And then him asking the engineer to run him off some tapes; and for convenience sake, since they were probably for work purposes he stuck with the rough headphone mix.
That is unlikely for a whole number of reasons.
They just sound like rough, works in progress/unfinished mixes, nothing mysterious or specific to Nicky.
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So cool to see new stuff turning up!
I still haven't heard anything NEW here. Am I missing something. Just bad mixes from the same old master tapes is my guess. Why all the friggin excitement over this?
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thijs1981
BTW: The new instrumental has totally different chords then Tops. It really is new, though there are similarities to many of their ballads from the same period.
Yeah, totally different, but the broken minor chord there leads you to the feeling of Wild Horses (especially live in 1975) as well as Tops.
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BTW: The new instrumental has totally different chords then Tops. It really is new, though there are similarities to many of their ballads from the same period.
Yeah, totally different, but the broken minor chord there leads you to the feeling of Wild Horses (especially live in 1975) as well as Tops.
I thought of Wild Horses as well. Is it an A minor chord as in Wild Horses?
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Since these are confirmed to come through a Nicky connection, this could also be his headphone mixes. I could imagine him wanting a lot of Taylor in his cans.
And then him asking the engineer to run him off some tapes; and for convenience sake, since they were probably for work purposes he stuck with the rough headphone mix.
That is unlikely for a whole number of reasons.
They just sound like rough, works in progress/unfinished mixes, nothing mysterious or specific to Nicky.
Well any of the theories here can be deemed unlikely for several reasons. This goes back 39 years into crazy, drug fueld years,archived by people who are notoriously not into record keeping.
And the reason they are specific to Nicky is from their origin. So they all are specific to Nicky, just by ownership. Had I heard these tapes ice cold w/o that knowledge, of course I would not have said "Oh that must be a mix just for Nicky".
But since they do come from him, it is perfectl;y reasonable to see a link to him as a possibility.
I spend a LOT of time in and about recording studios; and (while nowadays it is not tapes anymore) there are constantly huge numbers of rough copies of this and that run off for people in the inner circle; who want to taKe a few trax home in any variety of mix.
I am not dismissing any theories by anyone else here; it is way more fun to assume, and determine new historic facts and links, but I am saying there are just as many very unglamorous reasons for such recordings to exist.
Nobody knew these kinds of recordings would rock our world 40 years later.
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I think it is an early version of "If You Really Want to be My Friend" from IORR.
I hear a bit of Winter and Till The Next Goodbye in it also.
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Palace Revolution 2000
Well any of the theories here can be deemed unlikely for several reasons. This goes back 39 years into crazy, drug fueld years,archived by people who are notoriously not into record keeping.
And the reason they are specific to Nicky is from their origin. So they all are specific to Nicky, just by ownership. Had I heard these tapes ice cold w/o that knowledge, of course I would not have said "Oh that must be a mix just for Nicky".
But since they do come from him, it is perfectl;y reasonable to see a link to him as a possibility.
I spend a LOT of time in and about recording studios; and (while nowadays it is not tapes anymore) there are constantly huge numbers of rough copies of this and that run off for people in the inner circle; who want to taKe a few trax home in any variety of mix.
I am not dismissing any theories by anyone else here; it is way more fun to assume, and determine new historic facts and links, but I am saying there are just as many very unglamorous reasons for such recordings to exist.
Nobody knew these kinds of recordings would rock our world 40 years later.
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Naturalust
I still haven't heard anything NEW here
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Mathijs
You do miss Sweet Virginia though -the version is different to anything we've heard before. This very well could be the final take from London before they took it to LA. Amazing to hear that the famous 'Nellcote villa' choir vocals seem to have been added in LA.
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Shine a Light is to my ears not different to the version that is available since the Time Trip / Hillside Blues releases in the mid-90's. You do miss Sweet Virginia though -the version is different to anything we've heard before. This very well could be the final take from London before they took it to LA. Amazing to hear that the famous 'Nellcote villa' choir vocals seem to have been added in LA.
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Stones62
So cool to see new stuff turning up!
I still haven't heard anything NEW here. Am I missing something. Just bad mixes from the same old master tapes is my guess. Why all the friggin excitement over this?
? Did you actually listen to it?
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Those are really great listens.
I am grabbing them with soundforge as mp3 files, but I doubt youtube is any more than 128-160K?
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The new instrumental reminds me somewhat of the bridge in Till The Next Time.
It is very melodic. Funny they throw the major 7th in there as well. They didn't do that on many songs, that is pushing experimental, chord wise for early 70s Stones.
Seems they just didn't have enough room for all these ballads, like Following The River, Separately. Could have been a Taylor idea as well, maybe that's why they didn't finish it. We'll just have to guess.
I'm pretty happy I don't have to listen to this one with faux-young-over-the-top Jagger vocals on it, though.
Well, the instrumental is very, very simular to how they did Wild Horses in '75! Chords, licks, except for the major 7th they threw in.
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The uploader is called Robin M. Blind.
... as in "robbing 'em blind", eh? (or 'im, as the case may be)
anyway multi thanks for posting all this, people
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Those are really great listens.
I am grabbing them with soundforge as mp3 files, but I doubt youtube is any more than 128-160K?
Hi MH, I grab stuff off you tube at 24 bits , 44.1KHz. Storage is cheap and you can be sure of getting the best of what anyone uplaoded , you can always go cleanup and or play with the wave files later. I have gotten some fine sounding files in the end. But, I don't need smaller files for portable devices since I don't use em. Good enough. Just my 2 bit. peace.