The instrumental with the slide guitar and horns. (Not the Dallas Rehearsals)

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After listening quite a few times, I am starting to think that this "alternate take" of "I Aint' Signifying," might actually be the SAME EXACT TAKE as the one that was released as an Exile deluxe bonus track, but with a different (better) vocal on top, different instruments mixed in the foreground, and that they cleaned it up quite a lot and monkeyed around with it digitally, after taking the tracks from the original analog multi-tracks into the computer.

They DO sound similiar. I've thought about the possibility of them using this same track for the Remaster as well.

There is only one other version that dates to Nellcote...correct?

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Seems more Goats Head Soup to me for some reason. It certainly does have bits of what sound like If You Really Want To Be My Friend.

yes it was the same for me - GHS...IORR outtakes...sounds like Till the Next Time...

but listen to Taylor's slide towards the end...very All Down The Line-ish style which then leads me to believe it is probably 1971-72.

but it does have that creepy GHS feel...

ha..i like the comment about thankfully MJ hasnt put his 2010 vocals over it...so true !!

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I would say that that is keith on slide , it is nothing like mick would play at all .

Even though it doesn't really jive well with the song - can Keith play slide that well?

He was playing slide while at Nellcote - he played on Happy, possibly some of the slide on Casino Boogie (as well as Taylor), maybe he played the slide on the instrumental version of Lit It Loose as well?

That sure is Taylor on slide.

Mathijs

i think you need to listen again with an open mind , the latter slide harmonies are out and therefor a tryout and not anything MT would play .keithlater dubbing some more slide for the final version .


sure keith can play slide this "well" you mentioned both songs alreadywhich are similar .

also taylors slide work in rocks off did make the final mix but is burried . mostly audible in the first verse and after the lines " i can hardly speak " sounding more like backing vocals going "ooh".

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I would say that that is keith on slide , it is nothing like mick would play at all .

Even though it doesn't really jive well with the song - can Keith play slide that well?

He was playing slide while at Nellcote - he played on Happy, possibly some of the slide on Casino Boogie (as well as Taylor), maybe he played the slide on the instrumental version of Lit It Loose as well?

That sure is Taylor on slide.

Mathijs

i think you need to listen again with an open mind , the latter slide harmonies are out and therefor a tryout and not anything MT would play .keithlater dubbing some more slide for the final version .


sure keith can play slide this "well" you mentioned both songs alreadywhich are similar .

also taylors slide work in rocks off did make the final mix but is burried . mostly audible in the first verse and after the lines " i can hardly speak " sounding more like backing vocals going "ooh".

i agree - it's Keith on slide during this RTJ outtake...

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I would say that that is keith on slide , it is nothing like mick would play at all .

Even though it doesn't really jive well with the song - can Keith play slide that well?

He was playing slide while at Nellcote - he played on Happy, possibly some of the slide on Casino Boogie (as well as Taylor), maybe he played the slide on the instrumental version of Lit It Loose as well?

That sure is Taylor on slide.

Mathijs

i think you need to listen again with an open mind , the latter slide harmonies are out and therefor a tryout and not anything MT would play .keithlater dubbing some more slide for the final version .


sure keith can play slide this "well" you mentioned both songs alreadywhich are similar .

also taylors slide work in rocks off did make the final mix but is burried . mostly audible in the first verse and after the lines " i can hardly speak " sounding more like backing vocals going "ooh".

It's Taylor. Keith never gets that tone while playing slide.

This is Taylor trying out melody lines.

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I would say that that is keith on slide , it is nothing like mick would play at all .

Even though it doesn't really jive well with the song - can Keith play slide that well?

He was playing slide while at Nellcote - he played on Happy, possibly some of the slide on Casino Boogie (as well as Taylor), maybe he played the slide on the instrumental version of Lit It Loose as well?

That sure is Taylor on slide.

Mathijs

i think you need to listen again with an open mind , the latter slide harmonies are out and therefor a tryout and not anything MT would play .keithlater dubbing some more slide for the final version .


sure keith can play slide this "well" you mentioned both songs alreadywhich are similar .

also taylors slide work in rocks off did make the final mix but is burried . mostly audible in the first verse and after the lines " i can hardly speak " sounding more like backing vocals going "ooh".

It's Taylor. Keith never gets that tone while playing slide.

This is Taylor trying out melody lines.

keith has exactly that tone on many of his slide parts and especially on the finished rip this joint.

thought i might give this song a rebirth...very typical Stones at that time...haunting/beautiful...classical.

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I would say that that is keith on slide , it is nothing like mick would play at all .

Even though it doesn't really jive well with the song - can Keith play slide that well?

He was playing slide while at Nellcote - he played on Happy, possibly some of the slide on Casino Boogie (as well as Taylor), maybe he played the slide on the instrumental version of Lit It Loose as well?

That sure is Taylor on slide.

Mathijs

i think you need to listen again with an open mind , the latter slide harmonies are out and therefor a tryout and not anything MT would play .keithlater dubbing some more slide for the final version .


sure keith can play slide this "well" you mentioned both songs alreadywhich are similar .

also taylors slide work in rocks off did make the final mix but is burried . mostly audible in the first verse and after the lines " i can hardly speak " sounding more like backing vocals going "ooh".

It's Taylor. Keith never gets that tone while playing slide.

This is Taylor trying out melody lines.

keith has exactly that tone on many of his slide parts and especially on the finished rip this joint.

Name one song where Keith has that tone. Not on Happy, not on Silver, not on Rambler, not on Monkey Man for sure.

Dandi - i am with you.
Just another reason why Taylor was so good for the Stones back in the hey-day.
Keith also good on this song...but this is Nicky's song...with Taylor making it even better...as usual !

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Dandi - i am with you.
Just another reason why Taylor was so good for the Stones back in the hey-day.
Keith also good on this song...but this is Nicky's song...with Taylor making it even better...as usual !

The first 5 seconds are Keith's though I think Taylor is doing great on this one live, but he's not very audible on the studio version.

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Dandi - i am with you.
Just another reason why Taylor was so good for the Stones back in the hey-day.
Keith also good on this song...but this is Nicky's song...with Taylor making it even better...as usual !

The first 5 seconds are Keith's though I think Taylor is doing great on this one live, but he's not very audible on the studio version.

yes i agree...but this is typical Keith in HIS hey-day...so i didnt bother to mention because he used to do it effortlessly

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Dandi - i am with you.
Just another reason why Taylor was so good for the Stones back in the hey-day.
Keith also good on this song...but this is Nicky's song...with Taylor making it even better...as usual !

The first 5 seconds are Keith's though I think Taylor is doing great on this one live, but he's not very audible on the studio version.

They played this live?

i think so..which makes it even better...



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Dandi - i am with you.
Just another reason why Taylor was so good for the Stones back in the hey-day.
Keith also good on this song...but this is Nicky's song...with Taylor making it even better...as usual !

The first 5 seconds are Keith's though I think Taylor is doing great on this one live, but he's not very audible on the studio version.

They played this live?

Rip This Joint? Many times.

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Dandi - i am with you.
Just another reason why Taylor was so good for the Stones back in the hey-day.
Keith also good on this song...but this is Nicky's song...with Taylor making it even better...as usual !

The first 5 seconds are Keith's though I think Taylor is doing great on this one live, but he's not very audible on the studio version.

They played this live?

Rip This Joint? Many times.

now i'm confused.
This is hardly Rip This Joint...
but i love this instrumental anyway ! giv me Hopkins, Taylor, Watts, Richards et al at their peak anyday !

haha...i think you guys might be talking about the Rip This Joint version...definately Keith on slide...most Live..but Keith overdub on slide

It was this discussion I was replying to:
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Rip This Joint features a totally useless guitar by Taylor, largely edited out of the final version. Listening to RTJ one can understand why Richards would state that Taylor 'was not a great rhythm player' or 'great live but not in the studio'. The real king of RTJ is Hopkins, Jagger and Keys. Fantastic new hook on Exile in my opinion.

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Yeah on RTJ Taylor is really unfortunate with his slidework. Its like they were done on a completely different stage of the process, him just messing around.

Thanks for the filesonic file, MunichHilton!

I would say that that is keith on slide , it is nothing like mick would play at all .

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haha...i think you guys might be talking about the Rip This Joint version...definately Keith on slide...most Live..but Keith overdub on slide

No, it's not. Listen to the first few notes. That vibrato is not Keith, but Keith's slide is in there as well after a minute or so:







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haha...i think you guys might be talking about the Rip This Joint version...definately Keith on slide...most Live..but Keith overdub on slide

No, it's not. Listen to the first few notes. That vibrato is not Keith, but Keith's slide is in there as well after a minute or so:

i disagree...it's all Keith

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It was this discussion I was replying to:
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Rip This Joint features a totally useless guitar by Taylor, largely edited out of the final version. Listening to RTJ one can understand why Richards would state that Taylor 'was not a great rhythm player' or 'great live but not in the studio'. The real king of RTJ is Hopkins, Jagger and Keys. Fantastic new hook on Exile in my opinion.

Mathijs


Yeah on RTJ Taylor is really unfortunate with his slidework. Its like they were done on a completely different stage of the process, him just messing around.

Thanks for the filesonic file, MunichHilton!

I would say that that is keith on slide , it is nothing like mick would play at all .

Its a thread snarl!
We're all on about different songs.