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Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: CindyC ()
Date: January 24, 2008 17:03

I agree, I am not a fan of this shot. I know it's supposed to be an "action" shot, but in that particular position, he almost looks handicapped. There were lots of other nice Keith/band photos they could have chosen.

Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: January 24, 2008 17:11

Hang Fire! Hang Fire! Know where does this say its an official poster?

Look at the copy and its obviously put together by the publisher and not by a professional Graphic Designer.

Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: January 24, 2008 18:29

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ablett

Hang Fire! Hang Fire! Know where does this say its an official poster?


Well, JumpingKentFlash claims that this is the "new Shine A Light poster" and if we cannot trust Kent, who else we can?

Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: Justin ()
Date: January 24, 2008 18:37

To be honest...I don't even this is an unnoficial shot. It just looks like something the website put together...and not even in the same league or personality as the other SAL poster that we know of.

Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: ablett ()
Date: January 24, 2008 18:40

"if we cannot trust Kent, who else we can?"

This is the same fruit cake "JumpingKentFlash"we all know and love???

Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: retired_dog ()
Date: January 24, 2008 18:51

Kent a "fruit cake"? Phhhh, now it's getting personal ... The rules of this message board, you know ... I am not allowed to post further comments ...

Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: January 24, 2008 20:20

That's not an official poster. It's not even the official website from the festival. The official festival is at Berlinale
This Berlinista is just a website with news from music, art etc in Berlin.
Hence the name Berlinista ... Berlin ist da ... Berlin is there

-------------------
Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: Bitch2 ()
Date: January 24, 2008 21:19

Dont have patience to read all pages, but my questions is, when is the dvd released? Anything else does not matter, if DVD is not releaed April 2 why not do a world-wide pay-per view?

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: CousinC ()
Date: January 24, 2008 23:00

Sorry if this has been posted before -

Really looking forward to this movie.(And the Live-CD's as well!)

Will there be more public screenings in Berlin cinemas apart from / after the opening showing?! Would like to go to Berlin but have to be shure that I can see the film as the opening should be sold out?!?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-01-24 23:02 by CousinC.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: January 25, 2008 00:31

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Bitch2
Dont have patience to read all pages, but my questions is, when is the dvd released? Anything else does not matter, if DVD is not releaed April 2 why not do a world-wide pay-per view?

because the film is distributed to cinemas in early April. You cant judge when the DVD is being released until you know how well the movie is doing at the box office. I'd imagine it'll be out by the summer...cant foresee anything but a limited run in theatres.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: January 25, 2008 00:33

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CousinC
Sorry if this has been posted before -

Really looking forward to this movie.(And the Live-CD's as well!)

Will there be more public screenings in Berlin cinemas apart from / after the opening showing?! Would like to go to Berlin but have to be shure that I can see the film as the opening should be sold out?!?

Yes...this is the e-mail I got from the Berlinale ticket office

Thank you for your interest. The opening screening "Shine a light" is a non public screening. Tickets for the repetition of this film are available four days in advance at the central box office in Potsdamer Platz as well as online. The complete program will be published on the 29th of January. Please have a look on our website www.berlinale.de.

Re: New Shine A Light poster.
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: January 25, 2008 07:49

Quote
retired_dog
Kent a "fruit cake"? Phhhh, now it's getting personal ... The rules of this message board, you know ... I am not allowed to post further comments ...

Don't sweat it mate. Ablett is right. A fruitcake I am. smoking smiley

JumpingKentFlash

Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: January 25, 2008 03:19

Found this and thought I should share......can't wait for the movie!!!!


Written by Marcelo Hessel



Invited by the Brazilian distributor Imagem Filmes, I watched 20 minutes of "Shine a Light," Martin Scorsese's documentary feature that captured both Rolling Stones' concerts at Beacon Theatre in New York, on October 29th and November 1st last year, part of their "A Bigger Bang Tour."



The relationship between the band and the director started 34 years ago, when "Jumpin ' Jack Flash" and "Tell Me" were featured on the "Mean Streets" soundtrack. And that was just the first of many times the Stones and Scorsese have worked together. "Shine a Light" starts from a rare premise: it's like having two old friends that are meeting each other face to face for the first time.



I arrived at the preview eager to spot Scorsese's style on the screen, but it's obvious that there is almost no space for authorial work when you're filming a concert. It's impossible to foresee what Keith Richards will do next, and this lack of control on stage forces him to film it all: positioning cameras, tracks, dollies and cranes are on every corner of the tiny theatre. Then, it's up to the director, above all, to know how to choose the best angles when in the editing room.



That's why Scorsese brought to this movie only the best cinematographers, like Ellen Kuras ("Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind"), Emmanuel Lubezki ("Children of Men"), Andrew Lesnie ("The Lord of the Rings") and Robert Elswit ("Magnolia," "Good Night, and Good Luck"), among others, all under the orders of director of photography Robert Richardson ("Casino," "The Aviator").



Different Dimensions



In 20 minutes we could only see three songs (and some backstage scenes) - in this case, " Jumpin' Jack Flash," that opened the second day, "Champagne & Reefer" (11th on the set list) and "Tumbling Dice" (12th). Each one of them gains, according to director’s orders, a different dimension from what's shot and how it's done.



In "Jumpin' Jack Flash," Scorsese invests in depth of field, showing all the musicians at the same time. The camera stays on the extreme right side of the stage, capturing Richards in foreground, Mick Jagger in mid-ground and Ron Wood, also in focus, in the background. By choosing the lateral view, instead of the more usual frontal, the director not only captures the three musicians in one single shot, but also inserts them on different levels - as one single being.



"Champagne & Reefer" has a different punch, because the Muddy Water’s blues is full of solos and doesn't have the same volume of the opening track. Scorsese then decides to do close-ups, and gets ready to film a whole variety of points of view. If Richards spits his cigarette, there's a camera there, ready to get it. If Buddy Guy (in a guest appearance) gives Jagger a wink, the audience will see it too.



With some of the best cinematographers by his side, Scorsese does what he does best: in the editing room, he starts to play with the length of each scene, making some of them very quick and others long, giving sense to the image. The Scorsesian characters always define themselves by the speed on which they cross the screen, and Buddy Guy had just become one of them.



The best scene of the screening: after a brief variety of cuts takings us from one side of the stage to the other, the camera freezes on the bluesman's face. He plays his guitar off the frame - it's the intro for "Champagne & Reefer" - but the camera keeps a close-up on him. It stays about ten seconds just like that when suddenly, Buddy Guy, who had his mouth closed so far, releases his powerful voice. Those who have ever listened to him know what has just happened: Scorsese and his crew have just paid a massive homage to the bluesman - and he deserves it!



After that, it is unfair to compare the mise-en-scène for "Tumbling Dice" - mainly because the cameras now start to follow Jagger, but the singer of the Rolling Stones, in his invertebrate ballet, is not an easy target to shoot.



Conventional but also very complex



At the end of the preview screening, I was feeling half happy (the other half of me was asking for more!). As a movie and music fan, I can assure you that the pleasure is gigantic and I say that knowing that those gigs also had guest stars such as Jack White (in "Loving Cup") and Christina Aguilera (in "Live with Me"), and rare songs played live, such as "I'm Free."



"Shine a Light" was scheduled to open in September, but the producers decided to put it off to 2008, saying that this extra time will make the movie even better. And after the 20-minute sample, we can expect something conventional in its form - it's not a conceptual concert, as Jonathan Demme and Talking Heads's "Stop Making Sense," but it's very elaborate in the way it looks. After all, as Jagger says backstage, "it's Marty's show."

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: bassplayer617 ()
Date: January 25, 2008 03:52

The more I hear (and see) about this, the more I think that the so-called "hardcore" fans will see it as nothing special.

IMHO, what will be different is the way in which the band is presented. For the "hardcore", don't expect any surprises -- you've heard the band, you're jaded, you have the bootlegs. For the rest of the world, it should be much fun. Personally, I can't wait to see it.

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: StratoGR ()
Date: January 25, 2008 04:31

I can't wait to see it on cinema.in a huge screen,hope they will release it in Greece smiling smiley

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: TrulyMicks ()
Date: January 25, 2008 04:40

Very tantalizing....thanks for posting! I can't wait to see it. I'm already planning on giving the dvd's as xmas presents!

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: JumpingKentFlash ()
Date: January 25, 2008 07:40

Great article. I can't wait to see it.

JumpingKentFlash

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: whitem8 ()
Date: January 25, 2008 08:03

A really hardcore fan will love it! They don't need any surprises, just the love of the stones. Can't wait.

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: sweet things ()
Date: January 25, 2008 08:46

Nice tease...thanx

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: mikey ()
Date: January 25, 2008 11:22

Foolish Mortals!

You have just opened a new "Shine A Light" thread.

Which means that old BV's axe will fall on your head.

And you just might wake up in the morning and find your own self dead.

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: SEBI ()
Date: January 25, 2008 11:34

the best thing about shine a light -for me- is that i can see the stones with a many friends who can´t afford the high ticket prices on a regular stadium gig

Re: Tantalizing mini review of Shine A Light Documentary
Posted by: Rip This ()
Date: January 25, 2008 21:41

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bassplayer617
The more I hear (and see) about this, the more I think that the so-called "hardcore" fans will see it as nothing special.

...........if you've seen the trailer at the movie theatre then you might have a different take.....the lighting, the camera angles and......and actually...... the loudness of the music jolts you......i think it's going to be great..

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: wee bobby lennox ()
Date: January 25, 2008 23:47

interesting to read the stones will release a cd to acompany the dvd of the beacon concerts.

as they have made a few live dvd,s in recent years it would be lazy to include the usual songs.

it would be unforgivable to leave out she was hot as this was a highlight of the recent tour and probably the last opportunity to nail this song live on record, and hopefully they would include connection, im free, as tears go by, shattered and loving cup.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: January 26, 2008 00:07

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wee bobby lennox
interesting to read the stones will release a cd to acompany the dvd of the beacon concerts.

as they have made a few live dvd,s in recent years it would be lazy to include the usual songs.

it would be unforgivable to leave out she was hot as this was a highlight of the recent tour and probably the last opportunity to nail this song live on record, and hopefully they would include connection, im free, as tears go by, shattered and loving cup.

Like I said, its a film first and a live album second. If Scorsese doesnt feel a song 'works' sufficiently to merit inclusion in the film ('It's Marty's show' MIck Jagger) then its very unlikely its going to be on any album.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: Bashlets ()
Date: January 26, 2008 13:58

Hope the cd is just all the songs in the movie. Any ones that didnt make it should be released as b-sides. They always do extra cd singles so this would be a perfect opportunity.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: darkstar212 ()
Date: January 26, 2008 21:52

I was hired as an extra. I was lucky enough to see both shows. The first night there were four seats front row in front of Keith. I was lucky enough to get one of those! One of my greatest concert experiences ever. Caught his pic after Satisfaction. The second night they removed the seats to give it a more vibrant GA feel. I know the stink that erupted about the extras being actors and non-fans. Well there were some of those around for sure. I remember night two when I was standing next to two good looking guy models and one said to the other, "Do you know any Rolling Stones songs? The other pretty boy replied, "I think like one." Very sad, but believe me many a Stones fan was able to get hired as extras as well. It wasn't all non-fans. I met many cool people who were big fans of either the Stones or rock and roll. The stink that erupted about extras not being fans was way overblown. Also, this was a special situation and special event. They had no choise but to have hired people up close. It was crazy with all the cameras and changing film and boom cameras. You had to have people working as actors in case they needed you to move or for liability reasons. Maybe not fair to all real fans, but sadly, if you were there, you would realize thats the only way to film something like they did. I hope people get over this negative attitude over that whole situation and realize it was done for a real reason and **absolutely no way of doing it overwise.** Sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot. That simply was the case. Don't complain about some small concessions and be happy with the overall project!!

About three months after the shows, I just happened to start dating Martin Scorsese's personal assistant here in New York. I didn't know it when I first met her. After the first date she told me. I then told her I was hired as an extra for the movie. I also told her how angry Stones fans were online(from IORR of course!) over the use of good looking extras instead of fans. She then took that info and told Martin himself!! Way cool! At the time he was editing the movie daily and she would hear and see him working on it. I was told that he was using mostly footage from night two. Then about two weeks later she told me Martin was upset himself by how the crowd looked. She stated he thought they went overboard and made the crowd too good looking. So he started digitally darkening some of the crowd, eliminating some the pretty people! We broke up after Martin won the Oscar for The Departed and I haven't seen her since. Funny to think the online complaints of people being too good looking might have actually had an effect on the outcome of the movie. Wonder if Martin would have darkened people if the seed hadn't been planted in his mind that there was an uproar over the good looking people. Anyhow, that's my Shine a Light story.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: wee bobby lennox ()
Date: January 26, 2008 23:07

will they pick "she was hot" for the movie or cd.

be gutted if they miss this song out.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: Beast ()
Date: January 26, 2008 23:10

Great story - thanks! I also heard that Scorsese was not happy but I didn't know about what. I was there both nights (but not as an extra, since I don't meet the criteria eye rolling smiley ) and thought the second was the better night - for one thing, there were more "real" fans there - so I'm not surprised if he's using more footage from then.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: georgeV ()
Date: January 26, 2008 23:15

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wee bobby lennox
will they pick "she was hot" for the movie or cd.

be gutted if they miss this song out.

It will be intersting to see how they handle the audio. With Mick's laryngitis that delayed the show by a day, I think it will require touch-up. I thought it was particularly bad during She Was Hot so it will be interesting to see if it makes the cut.

Re: Shine a Light - The Movie
Posted by: Gazza ()
Date: January 26, 2008 23:58

Quote
Bashlets
Hope the cd is just all the songs in the movie. Any ones that didnt make it should be released as b-sides. They always do extra cd singles so this would be a perfect opportunity.

They always do? When was the last one?

There's hardly going to be much of a market for a commercially released CD single from a live album by a band in their mid 60s I would think.

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