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So stupid isn't only an American phenomenon unfortunately.
Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that.
American stupidity has never been higher than in 2020. Learning has been at its highest inefficiency elsewhere though not EVERYwhere. As someone that lives in the US I have witnessed and have had to experience the first part of that way too many times this year.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
The way old people have been treated in care homes confined to their bedrooms and allowed no visits from loved ones is it any wonder they are dying, these are mostly very sick people to start with.
I feel sorry for everyone on hear believing everything their government's are telling them, as far as covid goes fear is the virus and knowledge is the cure, you only have to look to the third world to see this is no Spanish flu, nothing like it in severity, this is a very bad influenza type illness at worse that is similar to the flu, notice how it all but disappeared in the summer, in Britain it was down to a few deaths each day, this when lockdowns were lifted and places were packed with holiday makers from the cities. This whole thing has been exaggerated out of proportion.
I'm feeling worried that so many of you still believe this scam, it's just politics now, why else with all the statistics available to you would you still welcome lockdowns.
I'm out of here, have a great life.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
I'm feeling worried that so many of you still believe this scam, it's just politics now, why else with all the statistics available to you would you still welcome lockdowns.
I'm out of here, have a great life.
This is untrue and undocumented lies.
Please supply a link to serious documentation for your statements.
Fact is covid-19 have a fatality rate of 0.5% or more which is five times more than the annual flu. Fact is the fatality rate among age 60+ is way higher than 0.5%. If covid-19 is "let loose" and out of control, A LOT of people will die.
So far 1% of the US population have died from covid-19, a total of 340,000 people, while most of the elderly and people age 60+ have been careful and protected. This number will be 5-10 times higher without any measures like distance, test, trace, quarantine etc.
Data reveal deadliness of COVID-19, even in young adults (CIDRAP - University of Minnesota, USA - Dec 17, 2020)
Even though all-cause mortality due to COVID-19 may not be known for a while, two new studies highlight that 173,300 (79.5%) of excess deaths from March through August were COVID related, with 4,535 deaths occurring from March through July in younger adults ages 25 to 44, or 38% of all excess deaths in that group.
After adjusting mortality data to reflect an aging US demographic, 173,300 (79.5%) of the 218,000 excess deaths from March through August were related to COVID, according to the Annals study. Without this adjustment, 57.5% of 301,400 excess deaths were COVID related, but the absolute number of COVID-attributable deaths stayed the same.
Thousands of COVID deaths in young adults
During the first 5 months of the pandemic, 76,088 all-cause deaths occurred among young adults, with each month showing excess, according to the JAMA research letter. The researchers found 11,899 more Americans ages 25 through 44 have died than expected (18%), with 4,535 (38%) of the deaths caused by COVID-19.
A New York Times opinion article written by three US experts notes that, over the past 20 years, 11,000 young adults have died in July. This year, more than 16,000 did.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
Can you cite the source of that data?
TIA.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
Can you cite the source of that data?
TIA.
[www.dailywire.com]
As i said above the Dailywire along with 90% of MSM have done their best to cover up the facts shown by the CDC, the fact remains that the figures we receive are a scam, the CDC found that out of 235000 covid deaths only 15000 were actually covid deaths. The others were already very very sick dying people or people that suffered some sort of accident.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
I'm feeling worried that so many of you still believe this scam, it's just politics now, why else with all the statistics available to you would you still welcome lockdowns.
I'm out of here, have a great life.
This is untrue and undocumented lies.
Please supply a link to serious documentation for your statements.
Fact is covid-19 have a fatality rate of 0.5% or more which is five times more than the annual flu. Fact is the fatality rate among age 60+ is way higher than 0.5%. If covid-19 is "let loose" and out of control, A LOT of people will die.
So far 1% of the US population have died from covid-19, a total of 340,000 people, while most of the elderly and people age 60+ have been careful and protected. This number will be 5-10 times higher without any measures like distance, test, trace, quarantine etc.
Data reveal deadliness of COVID-19, even in young adults (CIDRAP - University of Minnesota, USA - Dec 17, 2020)
Even though all-cause mortality due to COVID-19 may not be known for a while, two new studies highlight that 173,300 (79.5%) of excess deaths from March through August were COVID related, with 4,535 deaths occurring from March through July in younger adults ages 25 to 44, or 38% of all excess deaths in that group.
After adjusting mortality data to reflect an aging US demographic, 173,300 (79.5%) of the 218,000 excess deaths from March through August were related to COVID, according to the Annals study. Without this adjustment, 57.5% of 301,400 excess deaths were COVID related, but the absolute number of COVID-attributable deaths stayed the same.
Thousands of COVID deaths in young adults
During the first 5 months of the pandemic, 76,088 all-cause deaths occurred among young adults, with each month showing excess, according to the JAMA research letter. The researchers found 11,899 more Americans ages 25 through 44 have died than expected (18%), with 4,535 (38%) of the deaths caused by COVID-19.
A New York Times opinion article written by three US experts notes that, over the past 20 years, 11,000 young adults have died in July. This year, more than 16,000 did.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
Can you cite the source of that data?
TIA.
[www.dailywire.com]
As i said above the Dailywire along with 90% of MSM have done their best to cover up the facts shown by the CDC, the fact remains that the figures we receive are a scam, the CDC found that out of 235000 covid deaths only 15000 were actually covid deaths. The others were already very very sick dying people or people that suffered some sort of accident.
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So stupid isn't only an American phenomenon unfortunately.
Honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself for saying that.
As an American, who is frightened to death of what is going on in this country, the only shame I have concerns the ignorance being shown by some of my fellow citizens.
Sorry, I misunderstood you. I was getting a "let's bash America/all Americans are stupid" sense and I stand corrected.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
Can you cite the source of that data?
TIA.
[www.dailywire.com]
As i said above the Dailywire along with 90% of MSM have done their best to cover up the facts shown by the CDC, the fact remains that the figures we receive are a scam, the CDC found that out of 235000 covid deaths only 15000 were actually covid deaths. The others were already very very sick dying people or people that suffered some sort of accident.
We have the same problem here, no thorough analysis, just absolutes. Of the 2,100 listed as covid deaths, according to Central Statistics Office 100 have covid 19 listed as cause of death, 300 were not tested and assumed covid 1,700 covid with comorbidities. 50% over age of 83 with comorbidities. No cycle threshold analysis with any PCR test.
We are in level 5 lockdown, with lowest ICU admittance in last few years, 22 ICU with suspected covid as opposed to 155 ICU in March. PCR cases fluctuate wildly, with no proportionate increase in ICU from May to December.
HSE warned of serious backlog of untreated conditions due to hospitals cancelling treatments since March. MSM wont have any medical professional on air with a view that differs from prevailing narrative, those views from Irish doctors are on Twitter though.
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According to the government figures in Britain only 6% of covid deaths have been a direct result of covid.
Can you cite the source of that data?
TIA.
[www.dailywire.com]
As i said above the Dailywire along with 90% of MSM have done their best to cover up the facts shown by the CDC, the fact remains that the figures we receive are a scam, the CDC found that out of 235000 covid deaths only 15000 were actually covid deaths. The others were already very very sick dying people or people that suffered some sort of accident.
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Those in favour of no lockdown often pointed to Sweden as the model of success to emulate. But now Sweden is on the verge of introducing a (temporary) pandemic law giving more lockdown powers, so someone somewhere has changed their mind about the virtues of that model or was this also partly prompted by the King's recent comments? It would be interesting to hear from any Swedes on here who can enlighten us.
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Those in favour of no lockdown often pointed to Sweden as the model of success to emulate. But now Sweden is on the verge of introducing a (temporary) pandemic law giving more lockdown powers, so someone somewhere has changed their mind about the virtues of that model or was this also partly prompted by the King's recent comments? It would be interesting to hear from any Swedes on here who can enlighten us.
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Sorry but I think it's ridiculous to lock down countries and cause millions to lose jobs and businesses when all that was needed was to protect the old and the sick from the virus, the cure to this virus is causing more harm than the virus.
And the powers that be will not let this go away, this is too good an opportunity to implement control over us.
MisterDDDD I hope for all our sakes I'm batshit crazy because this year is George Orwells 1984 on steroids.
My friend in her 70s, currently on a Covid ward after collapsing at home, would no doubt count as one of your "old and sick". How would you have protected her from the son and daughter she lives with, both of whom still need to go out to work and earn their living? All three currently have the virus: one symptom free, one ill, one very ill.
The son and daughter are to blame. If they really needed to work, they should have stayed in a hotel.
Wow, and who pays for that hotel? Hotels by me are only available to essential workers in town visiting /quarantining.
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I just find it interesting that those who blame the media are more likely to be Covid deniers and/or anti vaxxers. Why is that?
Don't count me in(*) ........but those think it's just an ordinary flew.
(*) I'm not an expert and I actually I don't know nothing about this virus only what I read and hear and sometimes that makes me wander.....I guess within a few years we will know what it is or was.............
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Do not trust vaccine deniers, even if they are "leaders":
Brazil's Jair Bolsonaro bizarrely suggests COVID-19 vaccines could turn people into crocodiles or bearded ladies (business Insider)
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