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matxil
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Well, you made me do something which I never thought I would do: google up the lyrics of Sweet Neocon. But I regret to say that a) I don't agree with your reading and b) I still think the lyrics are terrible.
And c) I doubt it took him more than 5 minutes to write them.
(With possible inexactitudes as my smartphone supply me with only one window at a time.)
So when after a refrain " How come you're so wrong .... ", the lyrics continues with
"It's getting very scary
Yes, I am frightened out of my wits
There's bombers in my bedroom
Yeah and it's giving me the shits"
you think it is Mick singing about his own fright?
And when the next verse goes on
"We must have loads more bases
To protect us from our foes
Who needs these foolish friendships
We're going it alone"
would that be Mick's own view and not one he allots to the neocon?
And really, if that last verse was to express Mick's own outlook, why, why on earth then, should he there repeat the question, if the preceding verse (s) reveals his own point of view
"How come you're so wrong
My sweet neo con"
Edit : One misprint corrected
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DandelionPowderman
«We're going in alone»
Would that be Mick's own view and not one he allots to the neocon?
A satirical look at how he perceives the neocon's view on the matter.
Excluding the live album, I think the last major studio work is Voodoo Lounge. We can't agree on this, but Mick and Keith do not write more together since the late 60s, but were made great albums. To write together should live together and they do not become more of a life.Quote
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Crosseyed Heart is gorgeous, but would never be an album stones, and rightly so. Do not confuse the solo careers with that of the group, the Stones are great because they are a mixture of Mick and Keith, maybe not in the idea of the song, but in the development of this.
In your opinion, what was the last great Stones album?
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TestifyExcluding the live album, I think the last major studio work is Voodoo Lounge. We can't agree on this, but Mick and Keith do not write more together since the late 60s, but were made great albums. To write together should live together and they do not become more of a life.Quote
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Testify
Crosseyed Heart is gorgeous, but would never be an album stones, and rightly so. Do not confuse the solo careers with that of the group, the Stones are great because they are a mixture of Mick and Keith, maybe not in the idea of the song, but in the development of this.
In your opinion, what was the last great Stones album?
The opinions on their long discography are very different, the Stones have five different generations of fans, fans normal that we have different sensitivities.
Stripped and Sticky Fingers live.Quote
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TestifyExcluding the live album, I think the last major studio work is Voodoo Lounge. We can't agree on this, but Mick and Keith do not write more together since the late 60s, but were made great albums. To write together should live together and they do not become more of a life.Quote
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Testify
Crosseyed Heart is gorgeous, but would never be an album stones, and rightly so. Do not confuse the solo careers with that of the group, the Stones are great because they are a mixture of Mick and Keith, maybe not in the idea of the song, but in the development of this.
In your opinion, what was the last great Stones album?
The opinions on their long discography are very different, the Stones have five different generations of fans, fans normal that we have different sensitivities.
I'd go as far back as Tattoo You as the last great album, but being that was a mixture of reworked/updated outtakes, etc., I'd have to say the last TRULY great album was Some Girls.
From start to finish a cohesive album in the truest sense. Some songs are better than others, but it has an all around sound and vibe that is stamped onto it and reflects what they were all about during that period.
And out of curiosity, which live album are you referring to?
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TestifyExcluding the live album, I think the last major studio work is Voodoo Lounge. We can't agree on this, but Mick and Keith do not write more together since the late 60s, but were made great albums. To write together should live together and they do not become more of a life.Quote
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Testify
Crosseyed Heart is gorgeous, but would never be an album stones, and rightly so. Do not confuse the solo careers with that of the group, the Stones are great because they are a mixture of Mick and Keith, maybe not in the idea of the song, but in the development of this.
In your opinion, what was the last great Stones album?
The opinions on their long discography are very different, the Stones have five different generations of fans, fans normal that we have different sensitivities.
I'd go as far back as Tattoo You as the last great album, but being that was a mixture of reworked/updated outtakes, etc., I'd have to say the last TRULY great album was Some Girls.
From start to finish a cohesive album in the truest sense. Some songs are better than others, but it has an all around sound and vibe that is stamped onto it and reflects what they were all about during that period.
And out of curiosity, which live album are you referring to?
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RipThisBone
A BIGGER BANG:
Skip Let Me Down Slow, Streets Of Love, Sweet Neocon, Look What The Cat Dragged In and Driving Too Fast. Add Under The Radar as song 2.
Great album.
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RipThisBone
A BIGGER BANG:
Skip Let Me Down Slow, Streets Of Love, Sweet Neocon, Look What The Cat Dragged In and Driving Too Fast. Add Under The Radar as song 2.
Great album.
Agreed, plus a couple stronger songs in the Keith slot. All we need is 12 songs MAX but please under 50 minutes!!
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RipThisBone
A BIGGER BANG:
Skip Let Me Down Slow, Streets Of Love, Sweet Neocon, Look What The Cat Dragged In and Driving Too Fast. Add Under The Radar as song 2.
Great album.
Agreed, plus a couple stronger songs in the Keith slot. All we need is 12 songs MAX but please under 50 minutes!!
What really makes the difference in 2016 is our age. We IORR-ers are getting old. We will never have the buzz like being 14 (I was in 1978) when SOME GIRLS was released or like being 24 (I was in 1988) when TALK IS CHEAP was released.
I mean I would have played CROSSEYED HEART for two years straight like I did with TALK IS CHEAP if released in 1988, but then TALK IS CHEAP would not be on my turntable after two months in 2015.
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tumbled
its a testament to the pervasiveness of human neuroticism the need to control their environment down to dictating what an artist's work should be and demand of a certain product. alcoholic behavior. You have to be free enough to let them create whatever is meant to come out and not dictate what you want to hear. its counter productive. there will never be another some girls. that was a product of its time. great comes in all different forms. what's great when you are 72 is not what is great when you are 40 etc.
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EJM
Has anyone actually seen Keith in London ? Are we sure it'll not just the other three there with Keith coming later ?
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Has anyone actually seen Keith in London ? Are we sure it'll not just the other three there with Keith coming later ?
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1963luca0
Any hope the album will have a beautiful cover?
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tumbled
its a testament to the pervasiveness of human neuroticism the need to control their environment down to dictating what an artist's work should be and demand of a certain product. alcoholic behavior. You have to be free enough to let them create whatever is meant to come out and not dictate what you want to hear. its counter productive. there will never be another some girls. that was a product of its time. great comes in all different forms. what's great when you are 72 is not what is great when you are 40 etc.
Utterly correct about a certain tendency here to wanting to dictate the character of the coming album. Your main point is very well placed.
However, about one minor point then: Stating, what is great when you are 72, is different from what is great when you are 40, omits one aspect. Most 72 year olds do not play in a rock band. Even fewer in the Rolling Stones. Their individualities count much as well and stronger than their age.
Even what is great for a so and so old Keith Richards contrasts from what is great in the perspective of Mick Jagger approximately at the same age ( yes, I am aware of when they were born). Then there is the difference between what each of them considers great, and what he is capable to and wants to create in 2015-2016. Finally, there is the different variation between when each of them is making music outside the Stones and towards and within the Rolling Stones at this stage in time.
I expect Keith to a greater extent to reflect the music that he has been creating over the last decades, also when he will contribute to new music within the band. There I have got a feeling Mick is more prone to move away from his own earlier contributions, if he chooses to do so. That is, to Mick there would be more of a choice what approach he will take. And it seems Mick to a certain degree may make music in accordance with such a choice. In addition, more speculatively, when Mick lately has written songs, not having made deliberate choices, the songs may seem to differ more from what he has been involved in creating before.
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1963luca0
Any hope the album will have a beautiful cover?
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1963luca0
Any hope the album will have a beautiful cover?
Another Chuck Berry tune??
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HMS
This video seems like an old one to me. They prepared it months ago to announce the SA-dates, I guess.