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HMS, Jagger, Richards, and Watts are irreplaceable. Anybody else is, although it isn’t the same without Bill.
Jagger was purported to have asked George Thorogood if he would be willing to step in and replace Ron during the 1981-2 tour when George was opening some gigs and Ron was out of his mind with his freebase habit. Read that many years ago--wonder how THAT would have sounded??!!Quote
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Ronnie could also be replaced.
with who ???? ….. Ted Nugent....????????? ….. Who ?????
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TravelinMan
HMS, Jagger, Richards, and Watts are irreplaceable. Anybody else is, although it isn’t the same without Bill.
They are all replaceable. Every person can be replaced and music can continue to be made. Whether you or the public likes or accepts the replacements is another matter.
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HMS, Jagger, Richards, and Watts are irreplaceable. Anybody else is, although it isn’t the same without Bill.
They are all replaceable. Every person can be replaced and music can continue to be made. Whether you or the public likes or accepts the replacements is another matter.
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TravelinMan
The Stones will not continue without Richards or Jagger, maybe Watts. We’ll see who’s right!
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SomeGuy
Ronnie a song writer? Mick Taylor co-wrote more on one album (3 songs on Exile according to my copy) than Ronnie did, 0.3 songs per album is not a lot and that was decades ago.
You have a unique copy, seemingly
And I suggest you check Ronnie's writing credits with The Stones.
Ok, maybe I didn't quite remember the numbers correctly and I know that some later Exile reissues didn't have the writing credits to Taylor anymore, but both my lp and the '94 cd remaster do. Also Taylor claims to have written songs on IORR as well. Whatever the contributions of Taylor to writing were or weren't, fact is anyway that Wood is by no means a songwriter to the Stones, except on the so much loved Dirty Work, the highlight of songwriting skills indeed.
I checked my collection for Ronnie Wood credits:
A Bigger Bang: zero songs
Bridges to Babylon: zero songs
Voodoo Lounge: zero songs
Steel Wheels: zero songs
Dirty Work: 4 co-writing credits
Undercover: 1 co-writing credit
Tattoo You: 2 co-writing credits
Emotional Rescue: 1 co-writing credit
Some Girls: zero songs
Black And Blue: zero songs, 1 'inspiration' credit
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll: 1 'inspiration' credit
Net result is: 0.27 songs per album (counting the 'inspiration' credits), even slightly less than I had guessed. So, I tend to agree with Charlie here
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Ronnie a song writer? Mick Taylor co-wrote more on one album (3 songs on Exile according to my copy) than Ronnie did, 0.3 songs per album is not a lot and that was decades ago.
You have a unique copy, seemingly
And I suggest you check Ronnie's writing credits with The Stones.
Ok, maybe I didn't quite remember the numbers correctly and I know that some later Exile reissues didn't have the writing credits to Taylor anymore, but both my lp and the '94 cd remaster do. Also Taylor claims to have written songs on IORR as well. Whatever the contributions of Taylor to writing were or weren't, fact is anyway that Wood is by no means a songwriter to the Stones, except on the so much loved Dirty Work, the highlight of songwriting skills indeed.
I checked my collection for Ronnie Wood credits:
A Bigger Bang: zero songs
Bridges to Babylon: zero songs
Voodoo Lounge: zero songs
Steel Wheels: zero songs
Dirty Work: 4 co-writing credits
Undercover: 1 co-writing credit
Tattoo You: 2 co-writing credits
Emotional Rescue: 1 co-writing credit
Some Girls: zero songs
Black And Blue: zero songs, 1 'inspiration' credit
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll: 1 'inspiration' credit
Net result is: 0.27 songs per album (counting the 'inspiration' credits), even slightly less than I had guessed. So, I tend to agree with Charlie here
Taylor has one credit: Ventilator Blues.
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SomeGuy
Right. Maybe we should adopt a new concept of the phenomenon and will have to call Dave Davies 'songwriter for The Kinks', and Ian Hill 'one of the writers for Judas Priest'. Bun E. Carlos wrote a song for Cheap Trick so he's a songwriter too. Never mind that the other 199 songs were written by someone else.
But hey! It would explain why this new Stones album is taking so long: they must have asked Ron to write the songs!
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Ronnie a song writer? Mick Taylor co-wrote more on one album (3 songs on Exile according to my copy) than Ronnie did, 0.3 songs per album is not a lot and that was decades ago.
You have a unique copy, seemingly
And I suggest you check Ronnie's writing credits with The Stones.
Ok, maybe I didn't quite remember the numbers correctly and I know that some later Exile reissues didn't have the writing credits to Taylor anymore, but both my lp and the '94 cd remaster do. Also Taylor claims to have written songs on IORR as well. Whatever the contributions of Taylor to writing were or weren't, fact is anyway that Wood is by no means a songwriter to the Stones, except on the so much loved Dirty Work, the highlight of songwriting skills indeed.
I checked my collection for Ronnie Wood credits:
A Bigger Bang: zero songs
Bridges to Babylon: zero songs
Voodoo Lounge: zero songs
Steel Wheels: zero songs
Dirty Work: 4 co-writing credits
Undercover: 1 co-writing credit
Tattoo You: 2 co-writing credits
Emotional Rescue: 1 co-writing credit
Some Girls: zero songs
Black And Blue: zero songs, 1 'inspiration' credit
It's Only Rock 'n' Roll: 1 'inspiration' credit
Net result is: 0.27 songs per album (counting the 'inspiration' credits), even slightly less than I had guessed. So, I tend to agree with Charlie here
Taylor has one credit: Ventilator Blues.
Ventilator Blues is the only one he actually received a credit on.
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SomeGuy
Mick Taylor played bass and electric guitar on them, respectively.
I vaguely remember that there was some court ruling that said they had to acknowledge the fact that Taylor wrote the songs (at least partially) at the time. Perhaps they bought him off later on? The way the label info is given doesn't suggest a typo, in my opinion.
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I've seen some weird credits on Stop Breaking Down and I Don't Know Why. Those are covers, though.
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Mick Taylor played bass and electric guitar on them, respectively.
I vaguely remember that there was some court ruling that said they had to acknowledge the fact that Taylor wrote the songs (at least partially) at the time. Perhaps they bought him off later on? The way the label info is given doesn't suggest a typo, in my opinion.
I Just Wanna See His Face:
Probable line-up:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Upright acoustic double bass: Bill Plummer
Lead vocal: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Clydie King, Venetta Fields & Jesse Kirkland
Electric piano: Keith Richards and Nicky Hopkins (Bobby Whitlock claims he played - my comment)
Maracas: Jimmy Miller
Tambourine: Jimmy Miller
Let It Loose:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Bass: Bill Wyman
Electric guitar: Keith Richards
Lead vocals: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Tamiya Lynn, Dr. John, Clydie King, Venetta Fields, Sherlie Matthews & Joe Green
Piano: Nicky Hopkins
Mellotron: Nicky Hopkins
Saxophone: Bobby Keys
Trumpet: Jim Price
[timeisonourside.com]
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Mick Taylor played bass and electric guitar on them, respectively.
I vaguely remember that there was some court ruling that said they had to acknowledge the fact that Taylor wrote the songs (at least partially) at the time. Perhaps they bought him off later on? The way the label info is given doesn't suggest a typo, in my opinion.
I Just Wanna See His Face:
Probable line-up:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Upright acoustic double bass: Bill Plummer
Lead vocal: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Clydie King, Venetta Fields & Jesse Kirkland
Electric piano: Keith Richards and Nicky Hopkins (Bobby Whitlock claims he played - my comment)
Maracas: Jimmy Miller
Tambourine: Jimmy Miller
Let It Loose:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Bass: Bill Wyman
Electric guitar: Keith Richards
Lead vocals: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Tamiya Lynn, Dr. John, Clydie King, Venetta Fields, Sherlie Matthews & Joe Green
Piano: Nicky Hopkins
Mellotron: Nicky Hopkins
Saxophone: Bobby Keys
Trumpet: Jim Price
[timeisonourside.com]
Elliott's book The Complete Recording Sessions and the Rolling Stones All The Songs both say Taylor added electric bass to I Just Wanna See His Face.
The original release of Metamorphosis credited Taylor on I'm Going Down. The credits were changed on later releases.
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SomeGuy
I will check then. Wikipedia however, says this:
Recording began in December 1971 and continued through March 1972, with some recording taking place at Nellcôte using the Rolling Stones Mobile Studio. With Jagger on lead vocals, backing vocals are provided by Tami Lynn, Dr. John, Clydie King, Venetta Fields, Shirley Goodman and Joe Greene. Electric guitars were performed by Richards and Mick Taylor, and played through a Leslie speaker. Bass is performed by Bill Wyman, Charlie Watts on drums, Nicky Hopkins on piano, Bobby Keys on tenor saxophone, and Jim Price plays both trombone and trumpet.
You know, wikipedia is totally free and unchecked, so it MUST be true!
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powerage78
Wood Stones era will never be the gold Stones one.
Period.
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iraq0708Jagger was purported to have asked George Thorogood if he would be willing to step in and replace Ron during the 1981-2 tour when George was opening some gigs and Ron was out of his mind with his freebase habit. Read that many years ago--wonder how THAT would have sounded??!!Quote
Rockman
Ronnie could also be replaced.
with who ???? ….. Ted Nugent....????????? ….. Who ?????
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powerage78
Wood Stones era will never be the gold Stones one.
Period.
This concisely sums it all up.
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SomeGuy
Mick Taylor played bass and electric guitar on them, respectively.
I vaguely remember that there was some court ruling that said they had to acknowledge the fact that Taylor wrote the songs (at least partially) at the time. Perhaps they bought him off later on? The way the label info is given doesn't suggest a typo, in my opinion.
I Just Wanna See His Face:
Probable line-up:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Upright acoustic double bass: Bill Plummer
Lead vocal: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Clydie King, Venetta Fields & Jesse Kirkland
Electric piano: Keith Richards and Nicky Hopkins (Bobby Whitlock claims he played - my comment)
Maracas: Jimmy Miller
Tambourine: Jimmy Miller
Let It Loose:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Bass: Bill Wyman
Electric guitar: Keith Richards
Lead vocals: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Tamiya Lynn, Dr. John, Clydie King, Venetta Fields, Sherlie Matthews & Joe Green
Piano: Nicky Hopkins
Mellotron: Nicky Hopkins
Saxophone: Bobby Keys
Trumpet: Jim Price
[timeisonourside.com]
Elliott's book The Complete Recording Sessions and the Rolling Stones All The Songs both say Taylor added electric bass to I Just Wanna See His Face.
The original release of Metamorphosis credited Taylor on I'm Going Down. The credits were changed on later releases.
Taylor was also credited on I Don't Know Why on Metamorphosis. It was also changed.
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LET IT LOOSE
Recorded between December 1971 and March, 1972. Released on Exile On Main Street in 1972.
Lead Vocal: Mick Jagger Backing Vocals: Tamiya Lynn, Shirley Goodman, Dr. John, Clydie King, Venetta Field & Joe Green Electric Guitars: Keith Richards & Mick Taylor Bass: Bill Wyman Drums: Charlie Watts Piano: Dr. John Saxophone: Bobby Keys Trumpet & Trombone: Jim Price Mellotron: Nicky Hopkins
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Mick Taylor played bass and electric guitar on them, respectively.
I vaguely remember that there was some court ruling that said they had to acknowledge the fact that Taylor wrote the songs (at least partially) at the time. Perhaps they bought him off later on? The way the label info is given doesn't suggest a typo, in my opinion.
I Just Wanna See His Face:
Probable line-up:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Upright acoustic double bass: Bill Plummer
Lead vocal: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Clydie King, Venetta Fields & Jesse Kirkland
Electric piano: Keith Richards and Nicky Hopkins (Bobby Whitlock claims he played - my comment)
Maracas: Jimmy Miller
Tambourine: Jimmy Miller
Let It Loose:
Elliott's book The Complete Recording Sessions and the Rolling Stones All The Songs both say Taylor added electric bass to I Just Wanna See His Face.
The original release of Metamorphosis credited Taylor on I'm Going Down. The credits were changed on later releases.
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Mick Taylor played bass and electric guitar on them, respectively.
I vaguely remember that there was some court ruling that said they had to acknowledge the fact that Taylor wrote the songs (at least partially) at the time. Perhaps they bought him off later on? The way the label info is given doesn't suggest a typo, in my opinion.
I Just Wanna See His Face:
Probable line-up:
Drums: Charlie Watts
Upright acoustic double bass: Bill Plummer
Lead vocal: Mick Jagger
Background vocals: Clydie King, Venetta Fields & Jesse Kirkland
Electric piano: Keith Richards and Nicky Hopkins (Bobby Whitlock claims he played - my comment)
Maracas: Jimmy Miller
Tambourine: Jimmy Miller
Let It Loose:
Elliott's book The Complete Recording Sessions and the Rolling Stones All The Songs both say Taylor added electric bass to I Just Wanna See His Face.
The original release of Metamorphosis credited Taylor on I'm Going Down. The credits were changed on later releases.
Taylor didn't write anything but confirmed himself that he played bass on Just wanne see his face. Both an electric Bass and acoustic upright Bass are clearly audible . The electric piano sounds like a Fender Rhodes to me.