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Mick Taylor and Jack Bruce perform on stage Amsterdam Netherlands 1975
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Mick Taylor and Jack Bruce perform on stage Amsterdam Netherlands 1975
That's not in Amsterdam, but de "Vliegermolen" in Voorburg, near The Hague.
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Could never understand why Mick joined this band who had far bigger drugs issues than The Stones.
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Could never understand why Mick joined this band who had far bigger drugs issues than The Stones.
Some rock historians imply that in 1974 Taylor severely misjudged the "shape" of the Stones : MT thought the band was toast, and it would soon implode (with Jagger going solo and Keef dying from an OD?).
From that pov Taylor thought it was a good career move to leave the sinking ship before it went 10000 fathoms below sea level and join a hot supergroup that would make him a rock superstar.
Plus Taylor probably imagined the (rather limited) blues-based rock was dead and the future belonged to the more sophisticated prog-rock.
Yes "as bad career moves go, that's among the worst"
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Could never understand why Mick joined this band who had far bigger drugs issues than The Stones.
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Taylor left and then worked with the Glimmers with both Ronnie Wood and John Phillips over the next few years. He stayed in their sphere through 1977. It seems in retrospect a Jagger-Wood-Taylor-Wyman-Watts back-up plan was a possibility if Keith became a casualty. Just guess-work, but it does seem plausible. Meantime, it's a pity Jack Bruce and Mick Taylor did not produce the same results as Bruce and Clapton did a decade earlier. Through his work with Dylan and even Joan Jett, there seemed real hope for a decent career for this very talented guitarist. He must not have wanted to join any other A-list bands or didn't want to be a hired hand to A-list talent much of the time. There really is no othere explanation for how someone with his talent and c.v. did not fare better than it was a conscious choice on his part to some degree.
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Taylor left and then worked with the Glimmers with both Ronnie Wood and John Phillips over the next few years. He stayed in their sphere through 1977. It seems in retrospect a Jagger-Wood-Taylor-Wyman-Watts back-up plan was a possibility if Keith became a casualty. Just guess-work, but it does seem plausible. Meantime, it's a pity Jack Bruce and Mick Taylor did not produce the same results as Bruce and Clapton did a decade earlier. Through his work with Dylan and even Joan Jett, there seemed real hope for a decent career for this very talented guitarist. He must not have wanted to join any other A-list bands or didn't want to be a hired hand to A-list talent much of the time. There really is no othere explanation for how someone with his talent and c.v. did not fare better than it was a conscious choice on his part to some degree.
I mean actually I feel it makes perfect sense. He is an incredible guitarist, I love the man. I saw the Stones on the 50th tour solely because of him. But there's only so much a great guitarist can do. He was a great collaborator with the Stones, but he couldn't do it on his own. Hence why his solo albums are fine but not great and why he did several side gigs but never fully made an impact. Because unless he took that step towards the spotlight in a bigger role, like Eric Clapton did. Eric Clapton eventually went solo and had success with it, IMO cementing his status if it wasn't already. He was finally singing and writing and taking full credit for hit singles and stuff and thats what gave him a career as opposed to just always being an incredible guitar player.
Its different for everyone, but Taylor's best role was working with a great band and singer like the Stones and Jagger. Ronnie Wood is someone that IMO is successful because he knows his place. It was as Rod Stewart's righthand man. It was as the Stones guitarist. He was never leading the charge, but he has the charisma and the chops to make a career out of being in successful things. He knew when to stay hooked to a good train so to speak. Not that Taylor made a mistake. You never know what's gonna happen when you go out on your own. But it didn't spark some genius songwriting. He can still play a mean guitar, but that will only take you so far. When he didn't land anywhere by 1980, it was clear he was never gonna get anywhere higher.
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Taylor left and then worked with the Glimmers with both Ronnie Wood and John Phillips over the next few years. He stayed in their sphere through 1977. It seems in retrospect a Jagger-Wood-Taylor-Wyman-Watts back-up plan was a possibility if Keith became a casualty. Just guess-work, but it does seem plausible. Meantime, it's a pity Jack Bruce and Mick Taylor did not produce the same results as Bruce and Clapton did a decade earlier. Through his work with Dylan and even Joan Jett, there seemed real hope for a decent career for this very talented guitarist. He must not have wanted to join any other A-list bands or didn't want to be a hired hand to A-list talent much of the time. There really is no othere explanation for how someone with his talent and c.v. did not fare better than it was a conscious choice on his part to some degree.
I mean actually I feel it makes perfect sense. He is an incredible guitarist, I love the man. I saw the Stones on the 50th tour solely because of him. But there's only so much a great guitarist can do. He was a great collaborator with the Stones, but he couldn't do it on his own. Hence why his solo albums are fine but not great and why he did several side gigs but never fully made an impact. Because unless he took that step towards the spotlight in a bigger role, like Eric Clapton did. Eric Clapton eventually went solo and had success with it, IMO cementing his status if it wasn't already. He was finally singing and writing and taking full credit for hit singles and stuff and thats what gave him a career as opposed to just always being an incredible guitar player.
Its different for everyone, but Taylor's best role was working with a great band and singer like the Stones and Jagger. Ronnie Wood is someone that IMO is successful because he knows his place. It was as Rod Stewart's righthand man. It was as the Stones guitarist. He was never leading the charge, but he has the charisma and the chops to make a career out of being in successful things. He knew when to stay hooked to a good train so to speak. Not that Taylor made a mistake. You never know what's gonna happen when you go out on your own. But it didn't spark some genius songwriting. He can still play a mean guitar, but that will only take you so far. When he didn't land anywhere by 1980, it was clear he was never gonna get anywhere higher.
A very good post!
It might also be that he didn't want to become a super star after being in the Stones.
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Taylor left and then worked with the Glimmers with both Ronnie Wood and John Phillips over the next few years. He stayed in their sphere through 1977. It seems in retrospect a Jagger-Wood-Taylor-Wyman-Watts back-up plan was a possibility if Keith became a casualty. Just guess-work, but it does seem plausible. Meantime, it's a pity Jack Bruce and Mick Taylor did not produce the same results as Bruce and Clapton did a decade earlier. Through his work with Dylan and even Joan Jett, there seemed real hope for a decent career for this very talented guitarist. He must not have wanted to join any other A-list bands or didn't want to be a hired hand to A-list talent much of the time. There really is no othere explanation for how someone with his talent and c.v. did not fare better than it was a conscious choice on his part to some degree.
I mean actually I feel it makes perfect sense. He is an incredible guitarist, I love the man. I saw the Stones on the 50th tour solely because of him. But there's only so much a great guitarist can do. He was a great collaborator with the Stones, but he couldn't do it on his own. Hence why his solo albums are fine but not great and why he did several side gigs but never fully made an impact. Because unless he took that step towards the spotlight in a bigger role, like Eric Clapton did. Eric Clapton eventually went solo and had success with it, IMO cementing his status if it wasn't already. He was finally singing and writing and taking full credit for hit singles and stuff and thats what gave him a career as opposed to just always being an incredible guitar player.
Its different for everyone, but Taylor's best role was working with a great band and singer like the Stones and Jagger. Ronnie Wood is someone that IMO is successful because he knows his place. It was as Rod Stewart's righthand man. It was as the Stones guitarist. He was never leading the charge, but he has the charisma and the chops to make a career out of being in successful things. He knew when to stay hooked to a good train so to speak. Not that Taylor made a mistake. You never know what's gonna happen when you go out on your own. But it didn't spark some genius songwriting. He can still play a mean guitar, but that will only take you so far. When he didn't land anywhere by 1980, it was clear he was never gonna get anywhere higher.
A very good post!
It might also be that he didn't want to become a super star after being in the Stones.
Back up plan for Keith:
After you left, several times there were rumors about your come-back in the Rolling Stones, especially because Keith Richards himself wanted you back. So why didn’t it happen?
I never heard that. I did know that when Keith Richards had these problems in Toronto [arrested for possessing heroin in 1977], Mick called me in London and said “Could you help us out?”. I said “what do you mean help you out?”. He said “I think we’re gonna have to do this tour without Keith” and I said “that’s ridiculous, you can’t do a tour without Keith. That’s not the Rolling Stones”. He said “I might have to because that’s part of the contract”. I said “Mick, I know how things work with the Stones and I’m sure a solution will be found. But if you can’t find, yeah I’ll do it”. I’ve never told anybody else that story.
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