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That really rough working take of Loving Cup... I don't hear any slide guitar in it. What y'all talkin' about?

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HMS

Yes, it´s Taylor playing on some of their greatest albums but it could be anybody really. IMO,any skillful player could have been doing the job and would be worshipped today. It´s the Jagger/Richards-combination that created the early-70s masterpieces. Taylor is just the cherry on the cake

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HMS

Yes, it´s Taylor playing on some of their greatest albums but it could be anybody really. IMO,any skillful player could have been doing the job and would be worshipped today. It´s the Jagger/Richards-combination that created the early-70s masterpieces. Taylor is just the cherry on the cake

I think you're right! Taylor is an exceptional embellisher of songs but when there's nothing really good to play on, well... Taylorites have yet to explain why their idol couldn't save a mediocre album like IORR.

And it's certainly not Taylor who would push the band to work yet another afternoon on that riff to make it come alive. It was either Mick or Keef.

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HMS

Yes, it´s Taylor playing on some of their greatest albums but it could be anybody really. IMO,any skillful player could have been doing the job and would be worshipped today. It´s the Jagger/Richards-combination that created the early-70s masterpieces. Taylor is just the cherry on the cake

I think you're right! Taylor is an exceptional embellisher of songs but when there's nothing really good to play on, well... Taylorites have yet to explain why their idol couldn't save a mediocre album like IORR.

And it's certainly not Taylor who would push the band to work yet another afternoon on that riff to make it come alive. It was either Mick or Keef.

Welcome to the Taylor bashing troll patrol.

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Since it hasn't been mentioned here I'll highlight one great song penned by Taylor: Never Fall In Love Again. That's good writing

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DandelionPowderman
Since it hasn't been mentioned here I'll highlight one great song penned by Taylor: Never Fall In Love Again. That's good writing

That's a good song indeed. However, Taylor's forte was not songwriting, but playing Blues and Rock.

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HMS
Just listen to Black And Blue. Wayne Perkins & Harvey Mandel let you forget completely the absence of MT. He was just a guitar player who was lucky to be with the Stones at their artistic peak. His influence or significance is minimal, imo. Brian Jones was very important and unique for their sound and image, MT wasnt. If Harvey Mandel would have been with the Stones in 1969-74 instead of MT the albums they made back then would still be masterpieces and would sound only slightly different. Maybe GHS and IORR would have been better albums in the end.

Your tireless campaign against Mick Taylor gives good evidence that there is much about his contribution to the Stones. If not, you would not have been so desperate to denigrate him. Only that you cannot stand his guitar style. However, that solo guitar of his belongs to one of the peaks of the Stones history. Not because of that only, but vitally also that.

Good luck striving on in your campaign. You give us a good reminder of Mick Taylor on each occasion. Are your paid for this mission?

Edit: omission of a word repeated.

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HMS
Just listen to Black And Blue. Wayne Perkins & Harvey Mandel let you forget completely the absence of MT. He was just a guitar player who was lucky to be with the Stones at their artistic peak. His influence or significance is minimal, imo. Brian Jones was very important and unique for their sound and image, MT wasnt. If Harvey Mandel would have been with the Stones in 1969-74 instead of MT the albums they made back then would still be masterpieces and would sound only slightly different. Maybe GHS and IORR would have been better albums in the end.

Your tireless campaign against Mick Taylor gives good evidence that there is much about his contribution to the Stones. If not, you would not have been so desperate to denigrate him. Only that you cannot stand his guitar style. However, that solo guitar of his belongs to one of the peaks of the Stones history. Not because of that only, but vitally also that.

Good luck striving on in your campaign. You give us a good reminder of Mick Taylor on each occasion. Are your paid for this mission?

Edit: omission of a word repeated.

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Yes!

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HMS
Just listen to Black And Blue. Wayne Perkins & Harvey Mandel let you forget completely the absence of MT. He was just a guitar player who was lucky to be with the Stones at their artistic peak. His influence or significance is minimal, imo. Brian Jones was very important and unique for their sound and image, MT wasnt. If Harvey Mandel would have been with the Stones in 1969-74 instead of MT the albums they made back then would still be masterpieces and would sound only slightly different. Maybe GHS and IORR would have been better albums in the end.

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Welcome to the Taylor bashing patrol.

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Welcome to the Taylor bashing patrol.

Bashing? I called him an exceptional embellisher. Where's the bashing?

MT cannot write a memorable tune to save his life (unless you think "Twisted Sister" is as good as a Stones song) that's fact not bashing.

And you could ask yourself one thing :
if Taylor brought everything that was good in the Stones's music circa 69-74 how come what he did with Jack Bruce in 75 was complete crap? Taylor was still young hot and t the height of his talent, right? How come his "genius" that had infused SF Exile and others did not infuse Bruce's horrible prog mush?

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Yes, it´s Taylor playing on some of their greatest albums but it could be anybody really. IMO,any skillful player could have been doing the job and would be worshipped today. It´s the Jagger/Richards-combination that created the early-70s masterpieces. Taylor is just the cherry on the cake

I think you're right! Taylor is an exceptional embellisher of songs but when there's nothing really good to play on, well... Taylorites have yet to explain why their idol couldn't save a mediocre album like IORR.

And it's certainly not Taylor who would push the band to work yet another afternoon on that riff to make it come alive. It was either Mick or Keef.

Welcome to the Taylor bashing troll patrol.

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Taylor was the right guy at the right time.

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HMS
...let you forget completely the absence of MT. He was just a guitar player who was lucky to be with the Stones at their artistic peak. His influence or significance is minimal, imo. Brian Jones was very important and unique for their sound and image, MT wasnt.

Come on, you can't be serious. In the age of the 'guitar god' Mick Taylor was just perfect because he was a terrific player, and he looked great (which was very important then, think only of Led Zeppelin, the Who, etc.! His shy image only added to his Appeal back then.

And nobody who ever listened to the live recordings from GYYYA to Brussels 1973 could Support your opinion that his influence was minimal. Unfortunately I was too young to attend a concert in 1973.

I tend to believe that Ron Wood was the right man for the 'punk years' and the Disco era. Nobody knows how the Stones would have developed if Taylor had stayed. But during the five years he was with the band he was the right man.

I will never undrestand how they could humiliate him so severley by taking him on tour basically for one song (Forget the acoustic guitar strumming on 'Satisfaction').

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He´s just a player with almost no writing skills. He is lost without songs and he havent had a song since he left the Stones. Maybe another player would have added even more to albums like Exile, SF, GHS, IORR. We will never know... In fact he stretched out only a very times with the Stones, mostly on rather ridicilous Jagger-ballads, as can be found on GHS & IORR. He´s most prominent on two of the Stones´ most mediocre albums (GHS, IORR), has a spot on CYHMK & Sway and is very inconspicuous on Exile, has two overdubs on LIB. That´s not very much, imo. I dont know how can some people build a legend on that...

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I dont blame him for nothing. But I m asking myself how can he get so much praise for a few years and a few solos with the Stones, how can he enjoy lengendary status amongst fans and at the same time his efforts outside of the Stones-context are almost totally unappreciated. Makes me feel he was inspired by the Stones not the Stones inspired by him.

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Welcome to the Taylor bashing patrol.

Bashing? I called him an exceptional embellisher. Where's the bashing?

MT cannot write a memorable tune to save his life (unless you think "Twisted Sister" is as good as a Stones song) that's fact not bashing.

And you could ask yourself one thing :
if Taylor brought everything that was good in the Stones's music circa 69-74 how come what he did with Jack Bruce in 75 was complete crap? Taylor was still young hot and t the height of his talent, right? How come his "genius" that had infused SF Exile and others did not infuse Bruce's horrible prog mush?

Answers?

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shortfatfanny

Welcome to the Taylor bashing patrol.

Bashing? I called him an exceptional embellisher. Where's the bashing?

MT cannot write a memorable tune to save his life (unless you think "Twisted Sister" is as good as a Stones song) that's fact not bashing.

And you could ask yourself one thing :
if Taylor brought everything that was good in the Stones's music circa 69-74 how come what he did with Jack Bruce in 75 was complete crap? Taylor was still young hot and t the height of his talent, right? How come his "genius" that had infused SF Exile and others did not infuse Bruce's horrible prog mush?

Answers?

Twisted Sister and other songs from his self titled and A Stone's Throw albums are more enjoyable than many Stones songs from the 80's/90's. Jagger/Richards wrote a lot of garbage in addition to their many gems.

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He´s just a player with almost no writing skills. He is lost without songs and he havent had a song since he left the Stones. Maybe another player would have added even more to albums like Exile, SF, GHS, IORR. We will never know... In fact he stretched out only a very times with the Stones, mostly on rather ridicilous Jagger-ballads, as can be found on GHS & IORR. He´s most prominent on two of the Stones´ most mediocre albums (GHS, IORR), has a spot on CYHMK & Sway and is very inconspicuous on Exile, has two overdubs on LIB. That´s not very much, imo. I dont know how can some people build a legend on that...