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OpenG
To try and capture some excitement to the upcoming tour here in US - I watched the B2B DVD last night and Keith was on fire and carried the whole show. I think Keith's best effort on the recent shows 2012-2014 was his playing and solo on GS from Hyde Park. Trying to find and get the groove for this tour without Taylor.
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SweetThing
During the 50th Anniv Tour(s), I never bought into the notion that Taylor was brought along as an "insurance policy", and still don't, but the it occurs to me now it is not such a dumb idea really. Ronnie and Keith being in good shape at the moment (or many other people at this stage of life) is just that.. the *moment*. Apart from the fact I am simply disappointed that Taylor will not have a roll now, it does also seem an unnecessary risk not to have an authentic potential substitute - since one is readily available - if Ronnie or Keith should need a night or part of a night off for whatever reason. Not suggesting it isn't problematic for the show to go on without Ronnie or certainly Keith, but there might be circumstances where they could paper over a good part of a show with Taylor whereas that really couldn't happen with Blondie or ..well it can't happen at all with no one to fill in. Just be a cancelled show.
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wickerman
Come on guys, stop your whining. It's 'kin annoying to be honest with you. We have great opportunity to see one more Stones tour, which is a mircale considering their age and health condition of some of the band members over the recent years. If they get Mick Taylor to do some shows (LA?) or the whole tour with them - it's ok... If not, it's still great - after all we get the 4 STONES - Mick, Keith, Charlie and Ronnie... Mick is not a Stone anymore, just an ex-bandmember, of course respected and loved by the fans but not a permanent part of the band anymore. Just live with it and enjoy this tour. Or, if you can't, just stay at home and watch some classic DVD instead.
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PhillyFAN
While I would love to see Mick Taylor back for this tour I want to say this in defense of Ronnie Wood. His playing seems exceptionally good when he is away from the Stones. The gigs he did with Taylor are amazing. He was on fire for the short lived Faces reunion tour without Rod Stewart. I personally believe that Wood is afraid to outshine Keith. I remember Keith Richards once saying he is a very sympathetic player. I have seen Ron Wood when he was a Face with Rod Stewart. Ronnie was his own man and playing guitar on songs he actually wrote. Maybe his role in the Stones has him somewhat confined and like Taylor he could be bored after 40 years of interpreting solo's he did not create. That said I still would love to see Taylor back.
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PhillyFAN
While I would love to see Mick Taylor back for this tour I want to say this in defense of Ronnie Wood. His playing seems exceptionally good when he is away from the Stones. The gigs he did with Taylor are amazing. He was on fire for the short lived Faces reunion tour without Rod Stewart. I personally believe that Wood is afraid to outshine Keith. I remember Keith Richards once saying he is a very sympathetic player. I have seen Ron Wood when he was a Face with Rod Stewart. Ronnie was his own man and playing guitar on songs he actually wrote. Maybe his role in the Stones has him somewhat confined and like Taylor he could be bored after 40 years of interpreting solo's he did not create. That said I still would love to see Taylor back.
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wickerman
Come on guys, stop your whining. It's 'kin annoying to be honest with you. We have great opportunity to see one more Stones tour, which is a mircale considering their age and health condition of some of the band members over the recent years. If they get Mick Taylor to do some shows (LA?) or the whole tour with them - it's ok... If not, it's still great - after all we get the 4 STONES - Mick, Keith, Charlie and Ronnie... Mick is not a Stone anymore, just an ex-bandmember, of course respected and loved by the fans but not a permanent part of the band anymore. Just live with it and enjoy this tour. Or, if you can't, just stay at home and watch some classic DVD instead.
Didn't your read the thread title or something? If you're not interested in MT's participation and indifferent to his presence the coming tour, then skip it. Or do I have to say this thread is for those who appreciate Taylor and want him badly to be part of the tour very loudly? Let us, real Stones fans, be disappointed and let us share our feelings and thoughts with each other without being bothered by interference and preaching by those who think they're real Stones fans by hailing the current four men line-up.
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PhillyFAN
While I would love to see Mick Taylor back for this tour I want to say this in defense of Ronnie Wood. His playing seems exceptionally good when he is away from the Stones. The gigs he did with Taylor are amazing. He was on fire for the short lived Faces reunion tour without Rod Stewart. I personally believe that Wood is afraid to outshine Keith. I remember Keith Richards once saying he is a very sympathetic player. I have seen Ron Wood when he was a Face with Rod Stewart. Ronnie was his own man and playing guitar on songs he actually wrote. Maybe his role in the Stones has him somewhat confined and like Taylor he could be bored after 40 years of interpreting solo's he did not create. That said I still would love to see Taylor back.
With all respect for Ronnie, I think he never was apt for being guitarist in the Rolling Stones next to Keith Richards. Many think that we 'taylorites' are only interested in Taylor, but nothing is less true. One of the most intriguing elements of Taylor being part of the band was the combination he formed with Keith. Though very different players (or better said: because they were very different players) they were a hell of a team on stage, blindly understanding each other musically. Another important element of course was the combination of Jagger and Taylor as for the melodic part of the music. So those three members together created a magical musical interplay, perfectly supported by Watts and Wyman.
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do I have to say this thread is for those who appreciate Taylor and want him badly to be part of the tour very loudly?
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gotdablouse
+10 with the comments about Taylor bringing a bit of "adventure" to the show for 2+ years, they all enjoyed it, Jagger included, why he "limited" it is anyone's guess, now he's canned it. Maybe it was too painful to relive his youth? Most people would be happy with that but one thing we keep forgetting (his fault!) is that the guy is nearly 72...at that age you tend to play it safe and like something that's predictable especially when you have to handle crowds of 60000+ ! Sam Cutler not only shared Taylor's happiness at being back he also let us in on what Mick needed to do to prepare for the show, a real "marathon", show after show.
Not that Sam Cutler ever got to see (meet) Mick J in Brisbane.
You're nearly there though with the painful part - it's probably more to do with hurt pride. Typical Leo.
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kleermaker
do I have to say this thread is for those who appreciate Taylor and want him badly to be part of the tour very loudly?
Good joke, but april fools day was yesterday.
What thread is there for those who appreciate Taylor and are also pleased with the fact
that The Stones are still touring?
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alimente
Because a stoned 1998 Ronnie simply looks better or what?
Because my ears like what comes out of his amp, and how what comes out of his amp works within the contest. Simple as that.
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JamesMadison
Does the average Stones concert-goer really care about Mick Taylor? My guess is that half of them don't even know who he is. And he isn't that gorgeous Wunderkind of the 1970s, nor the same stand-out guitar player. Does he even look like a Rolling Stone? and that is what the casual fan cares about.
Mick Taylor Fans: You can't always get what you want.
Mick Jagger Fans: Who wants yesterday's papers?
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Redhotcarpet
Heres an instructional video for Ronnie. If youre gonna renew a solo you have to actually come up with something of your own. Ronnie hasnt managed to do that yet and he just doesnt know where to go after those first notes of the solo so why not just study it note by note. Just sayin.
But yes, he looks like a rock star, I'll give you that.
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PhillyFAN
While I would love to see Mick Taylor back for this tour I want to say this in defense of Ronnie Wood. His playing seems exceptionally good when he is away from the Stones. The gigs he did with Taylor are amazing. He was on fire for the short lived Faces reunion tour without Rod Stewart. I personally believe that Wood is afraid to outshine Keith. I remember Keith Richards once saying he is a very sympathetic player. I have seen Ron Wood when he was a Face with Rod Stewart. Ronnie was his own man and playing guitar on songs he actually wrote. Maybe his role in the Stones has him somewhat confined and like Taylor he could be bored after 40 years of interpreting solo's he did not create. That said I still would love to see Taylor back.
With all respect for Ronnie, I think he never was apt for being guitarist in the Rolling Stones next to Keith Richards. Many think that we 'taylorites' are only interested in Taylor, but nothing is less true. One of the most intriguing elements of Taylor being part of the band was the combination he formed with Keith. Though very different players (or better said: because they were very different players) they were a hell of a team on stage, blindly understanding each other musically. Another important element of course was the combination of Jagger and Taylor as for the melodic part of the music. So those three members together created a magical musical interplay, perfectly supported by Watts and Wyman.
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JamesMadison
Does the average Stones concert-goer really care about Mick Taylor? My guess is that half of them don't even know who he is. And he isn't that gorgeous Wunderkind of the 1970s, nor the same stand-out guitar player. Does he even look like a Rolling Stone? and that is what the casual fan cares about.
Mick Taylor Fans: You can't always get what you want.
Mick Jagger Fans: Who wants yesterday's papers?
I want yesterday's papers, and I'm an MJ fan.
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Because a stoned 1998 Ronnie simply looks better or what?
Because my ears like what comes out of his amp, and how what comes out of his amp works within the contest. Simple as that.
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RollingFreak
Its so tricky, and at the same time not tricky.
Really, he shouldn't be there, because he's not a band member anymore and hasn't been for a long time. Yes he played on nearly all of the famous recordings, but he quit the band and that is what he has to deal with. It was nice to bring him back as a guest. He was completely underutilized, but again, you can't disagree that they didn't have to do it.
On the other hand, its just so easy to have him there. At this point in life, with all bands this age, I don't see why they don't just have as many members of the band on tour as possible. Bill won't do it, but Taylor will. If Taylor is willing, and you can get that 3 guitar sound and it can at least spice some stuff up for the audience (and the band) then its just silly not to. As mentioned, he played on all the famous stuff, so he has his right to be there and he was universally praised on his guesting.
I think the bottom line is the "quitting" is the biggest thing here, and whoever it is (probably Jagger) doesn't really want to just let him back in or "reward him" for that after so many years. They've made it without him and they could continue to do that. He improves their sound, but he doesn't really change ticket sales,