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I remember Keno sharing some pretty vital/exclusive info last year saying he couldn't say more...now what was that about, Taylor too or was it Mick ? Need to jog my memory.

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First, I appreciate the sentiments, and it's not my intent to make this about me...

But for this Rolling Stones fan (since 1972) it's simple: 3/5 of the band I love just isn't enough. To disinvite Mick Taylor (or "fire" him, or fail to invite him), while simultaneously celebrating perhaps their most successful Taylor-era album is an extra cruelty. I do not pretend to know why they have done this, nor do I pretend it is not their right to play with or not play with anyone they choose. I just find it incredibly cynical to celebrate this album, and at the same time spit in the face of one of the band members who made it great, and the serious longtime fans for which the music matters most. If this band - or the member(s) who make the key decisions - had any heart, they would realize the potential - not just for nostalgia - but for musical greatness - that could come from putting the best possible version of the Rolling Stones onstage. I also happen to think the way they treated Bill Wyman when he came back for a token two songs came from the same hard-hearted and cynical place that this decision to exclude Taylor came from.

I have supported this band with thousands of my dollars, my time, and my energy, and this is too much of a slap in the face to me, and likely many thousands like me. The only power I have to demonstrate my feelings is to stop the flow of dollars, energy, and time, and direct them to things that give me more pleasure. I know, it won't matter to them. The stadiums will still be full of people cheering a legend. And I don't begrudge anyone who finds the pleasure in this that I no longer can.

I have really enjoyed my time here: The discussions, even the debates with worthy and intelligent opponents. I have nothing but fond feelings. As to the Rolling Stones: That is an artist I now think of in the past tense. As John Lennon said after the breakup of The Beatles; "It's just a rock group...you have all the old records if you want to reminisce." Indeed.

It would be sad to see you go, Tele. You're a good, long time poster who always have contributed to improve this board.

Obviously, I can't make you change your mind, but I hope you'll drop me an e-mail now and again.

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<<I can only say that it isn't Jagger or any of the other Stones who don't want him back as a guest, and it isn't MT not wanting to be there, either.>>

Well, it seems there's a special--and secret--Chairman of the Board at Stones Inc. who ranks above Jagger et al and ultimately makes the final decisions. And all this time we thought Mick Jagger was the President and CEO.

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this thread is titled 'Mick Taylor Talk'..etc..

yes that's what I'd like, for him to talk, to a good journalist..

or go ahead with a book..

well I'd rather hear him play..but wouldn't you like to read a good new interview with him?

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duke richardson
this thread is titled 'Mick Taylor Talk'..etc..

yes that's what I'd like, for him to talk, to a good journalist..

or go ahead with a book..

well I'd rather hear him play..but wouldn't you like to read a good new interview with him?

...very strange and makes me think it must be health related or perhaps MT has fallen off the wagon? What else could it be?

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duke richardson
this thread is titled 'Mick Taylor Talk'..etc..

yes that's what I'd like, for him to talk, to a good journalist..

or go ahead with a book..

well I'd rather hear him play..but wouldn't you like to read a good new interview with him?

...very strange and makes me think it must be health related or perhaps MT has fallen off the wagon? What else could it be?

Yeah, I thought of that...the only thing really...and I hope it's not the case.
We'd all be pretty sheepish. But he just played recently with Ronnie...I don't know...

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duke richardson
this thread is titled 'Mick Taylor Talk'..etc..

yes that's what I'd like, for him to talk, to a good journalist..

or go ahead with a book..

well I'd rather hear him play..but wouldn't you like to read a good new interview with him?

...very strange and makes me think it must be health related or perhaps MT has fallen off the wagon? What else could it be?

Yeah, I thought of that...the only thing really...and I hope it's not the case.
We'd all be pretty sheepish. But he just played recently with Ronnie...I don't know...

Based on the post by Keno on that other site, I am somewhat relieved by the statement that it had nothing to do with Mick or any of the other Stones, and still somewhat anguished that there is another reason which could prevent the live collaboration from continuing. Hard to trust all these sources which claim to have inside information but are sworn to secrecy, it would be nice to have clear information that makes sense so we can put the issue to rest, and hopefully even feel good about it.

Perhaps people like 71Tele and Doom and Gloom would have no reason to blame the Stones ...obviously shows the problem of making assumptions without all the information.

peace

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<<I can only say that it isn't Jagger or any of the other Stones who don't want him back as a guest, and it isn't MT not wanting to be there, either.>>

Well, it seems there's a special--and secret--Chairman of the Board at Stones Inc. who ranks above Jagger et al and ultimately makes the final decisions. And all this time we thought Mick Jagger was the President and CEO.

I'd just love to hear anyone's guess on what it is then because that statement by Keno makes no sense. Who could possibly be dictating to the Stones(!) on what they can or cannot do with their show!

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<<I can only say that it isn't Jagger or any of the other Stones who don't want him back as a guest, and it isn't MT not wanting to be there, either.>>

Well, it seems there's a special--and secret--Chairman of the Board at Stones Inc. who ranks above Jagger et al and ultimately makes the final decisions. And all this time we thought Mick Jagger was the President and CEO.

I'd just love to hear anyone's guess on what it is then because that statement by Keno makes no sense. Who could possibly be dictating to the Stones(!) on what they can or cannot do with their show!

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duke richardson
this thread is titled 'Mick Taylor Talk'..etc..

yes that's what I'd like, for him to talk, to a good journalist..

or go ahead with a book..

well I'd rather hear him play..but wouldn't you like to read a good new interview with him?

...very strange and makes me think it must be health related or perhaps MT has fallen off the wagon? What else could it be?

Yeah, I thought of that...the only thing really...and I hope it's not the case.
We'd all be pretty sheepish. But he just played recently with Ronnie...I don't know...

Based on the post by Keno on that other site, I am somewhat relieved by the statement that it had nothing to do with Mick or any of the other Stones, and still somewhat anguished that there is another reason which could prevent the live collaboration from continuing. Hard to trust all these sources which claim to have inside information but are sworn to secrecy, it would be nice to have clear information that makes sense so we can put the issue to rest, and hopefully even feel good about it.

Perhaps people like 71Tele and Doom and Gloom would have no reason to blame the Stones ...obviously shows the problem of making assumptions without all the information.

peace

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alimente
What if MT made enough cash since 2012 to enable him to act in the same way as Wyman did: "No thanks - not for two songs per show!"?

And even if MT was invited, who says that he would have played on all Sticky Fingers-songs if indeed they are planning to play the entire album, at least at certain shows?

Speaking of Keno - I find it rather suspicious to go public repeatedly with "I know something, but am not allowed to spread the information" - news. If one is not allowed to spread certain information, why publicly claiming that one has this information at all? In doing so, he serves no other than himself in making himself an "interesting figure".

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The look on MT' s face while on stage for his two songs on their last tour speaks volumes. He looked like a bored and depressed guy.Playing acoustic guitar on Satisfaction had to be embarrassing and painful.

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The look on MT' s face while on stage for his two songs on their last tour speaks volumes. He looked like a bored and depressed guy.Playing acoustic guitar on Satisfaction had to be embarrassing and painful.

A player like mick taylor could never get into the swing of it in one song and one at the end , thats why .

And tele , you made the post of this millenium saying that with mick t the stones were dangerous again! Thanks , spot on ! nail on the head ! Oh the anticipation to that first show and the youtube vids . . Remember those days .

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The look on MT' s face while on stage for his two songs on their last tour speaks volumes. He looked like a bored and depressed guy.Playing acoustic guitar on Satisfaction had to be embarrassing and painful.

A player like mick taylor could never get into the swing of it in one song and one at the end , thats why .

And tele , you made the post of this millenium saying that with mick t the stones were dangerous again! Thanks , spot on ! nail on the head ! Oh the anticipation to that first show and the youtube vids . . Remember those days .

if he didn't like the 2 song gig, why did he agree to rejoin the band for the same thing in 2014, after he did it on 50 & Counting?

Thanks, mate. And I am glad I was able to experience one of those shows.

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[www.keno.org] - make of this what you will, I guess. Hard to see how Keno's claim here squares with Chacal's statements about MJ's lawyer. Who knows.

Keno is legit (if at times a grumpy old man).

There is something else at play. If the decision not to include him defies all logic given all the available information, then perhaps there is additional information we don't have.

So we need to can the hysteria a bit about MT's lack of inclusion, and hope it gets sorted out.

Yeah, it doesn't change my low level of excitement about a SF tour w/o him, but I guess I'll lay off MJ til I hear differently. Keno's always had good info regarding Taylor's involvement, or lack thereof.

Interesting but what the heck could it be that's preventing Taylor from being invited if both the Stones and Taylor are up for it? A third party? AEG? The insurance companies? Doctor Evil ?

I remember Keno sharing some pretty vital/exclusive info last year saying he couldn't say more...now what was that about, Taylor too or was it Mick ? Need to jog my memory.

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[www.keno.org] - make of this what you will, I guess. Hard to see how Keno's claim here squares with Chacal's statements about MJ's lawyer. Who knows.

Keno is legit (if at times a grumpy old man).

There is something else at play. If the decision not to include him defies all logic given all the available information, then perhaps there is additional information we don't have.

So we need to can the hysteria a bit about MT's lack of inclusion, and hope it gets sorted out.

Yeah, it doesn't change my low level of excitement about a SF tour w/o him, but I guess I'll lay off MJ til I hear differently. Keno's always had good info regarding Taylor's involvement, or lack thereof.

Interesting but what the heck could it be that's preventing Taylor from being invited if both the Stones and Taylor are up for it? A third party? AEG? The insurance companies? Doctor Evil ?

I remember Keno sharing some pretty vital/exclusive info last year saying he couldn't say more...now what was that about, Taylor too or was it Mick ? Need to jog my memory.

Was it something about Hyde Park?

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[www.keno.org] - make of this what you will, I guess. Hard to see how Keno's claim here squares with Chacal's statements about MJ's lawyer. Who knows.

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[www.keno.org] - make of this what you will, I guess. Hard to see how Keno's claim here squares with Chacal's statements about MJ's lawyer. Who knows.

Well it's April 1 here now. Who will believe it was God himself forbidding the Stones and Taylor to join forces during the next SF-tour? Not me.

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Same here, Kleerie. "If there's a will, there's a way". Only health issues could prevent MT from participating if indeed he and the band agreed to do it. Then again, it's also possible that both parties were willing to do it initially, but could not reach an agreement concerning the exact terms (amount of money, number of songs to play each night etc.). Either health or that.

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There are no health issues preventing Taylor from playing with the Stones.
I have no idea where Keno gets his info, but it's third hand at best and he seems to be clutching at straws.