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Rocky Dijon
StonesTod, Taylor has played many shows in Cleveland. I only bothered to see him once. While I wouldn't accuse him of capitalizing off the Stones (A STONE'S THROW notwithstanding), there's nothing wrong if he did - it is his legacy after all. Now, if your local radio station says Taylor's playing at the Slaphappy Lounge on West 6th and then plays "Plundered My Soul" mentioning Taylor just added guitar parts to it, then yes I'd say it is likely some people would bother to turn up who would otherwise skip the show. Again, I don't see any harm in it. Why be ashamed to say you were a Rolling Stone?
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Amsterdamned, I like Taylor's playing a lot. Live and in the studio with the Stones. If you've read my posts in this thread even today, you know that. That's not what we're talking about and neither was Andy Johns' story about Keith's actual mean-spirited jibe during the IORR sessions. A story I don't doubt, either.
That wasn't your point originally and changing it now doesn't get us anywhere.
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StonesTod, Taylor has played many shows in Cleveland. I only bothered to see him once. While I wouldn't accuse him of capitalizing off the Stones (A STONE'S THROW notwithstanding), there's nothing wrong if he did - it is his legacy after all. Now, if your local radio station says Taylor's playing at the Slaphappy Lounge on West 6th and then plays "Plundered My Soul" mentioning Taylor just added guitar parts to it, then yes I'd say it is likely some people would bother to turn up who would otherwise skip the show. Again, I don't see any harm in it. Why be ashamed to say you were a Rolling Stone?
absolutely nothing wrong with this. but the chances of ANY radio station playing out that scenario are remote at best. that's my point. taylor himself ain't even promoting it - he was merely answering someone's question the other day and even gave a vague response at that!
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I believe your "100 Years Ago" story, Amsterdamned. And then Jagger patted his sobbing friend Keith on the back and said, "There, there...we'll get all the royalties for all these albums Taylor brilliantly composes for us." And they rubbed their greedy hands together and cackled maniacally.
And Taylor labored away, a genius unmoved by ego or financial renumeration and lo when the great god Taylor stepped out on his own in December 1974, his muse mysteriously deserted him.
Here endeth the lesson.
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Doesn't say much for Keith's involvement in the new Exile either IMO.
it says plenty about his non-involvement with recent overdubs, at least to Plundered My Soul.
but that doesn't imply that he was underinvolved in other aspects of the project.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
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My main question would be: if Taylor was asked to do the overdubs on PMS, why did they settle with what is on the released track? It's fairly standard pentatonic run-through licks, nothing really spectacular. It's clearly edited down from several takes, or one very long take. I find it difficult to believe you went into the trouble getting Taylor to a studio, record his noodling and saying "that's a wrap Mick, it's fantastic", and then release the stuff.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
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Anyway, it's more than likely that Keith had little or nothing to do with the songwriting of 100 years ago, how 'witty' RD's fantasy might be, and that Taylor's contribution to one of the greatest Stonessongs ever was of more importance than Keith's.
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Anyway, it's more than likely that Keith had little or nothing to do with the songwriting of 100 years ago, how 'witty' RD's fantasy might be, and that Taylor's contribution to one of the greatest Stonessongs ever was of more importance than Keith's.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
I competely agree, I don't get this 'can't hear Keith' on PMS, he is all over the entire track on the left channel, if that isnt Keith then has to be the best impersonation of him I ever heard.
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My main question would be: if Taylor was asked to do the overdubs on PMS, why did they settle with what is on the released track? It's fairly standard pentatonic run-through licks, nothing really spectacular. It's clearly edited down from several takes, or one very long take. I find it difficult to believe you went into the trouble getting Taylor to a studio, record his noodling and saying "that's a wrap Mick, it's fantastic", and then release the stuff.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
Sorry Mathijs, but everything Taylor did you call "noodling". Always the same mantra: Taylor noodles, Taylor can't play rhythm, Taylor's influence on the Rolling Stones during his membership of the band is of little or no importance etc. etc. I can't take your ears seriously. Others may do, I don't.
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Anyway, it's more than likely that Keith had little or nothing to do with the songwriting of 100 years ago, how 'witty' RD's fantasy might be, and that Taylor's contribution to one of the greatest Stonessongs ever was of more importance than Keith's.
According to Taylor, Jagger wrote 100 Years:
Some of the songs we used (for the album) were pretty old. 100 Years Ago was one that Mick (Jagger) had written 2 years ago and which we hadn't really got around to using before.
- Mick Taylor, 1973
And Jagger has stated he wrote it and that Billy Preston helped shaping it alot. Keith later stated when Preston left, that Preston was a fantastic musician but that he was sometimes too much for the Stones, as he would lead them away from what the Stones are. He mentioned 100 Years as an example.
The fact that Jagger credits Keith while he might not have wrotten anything is something between Mick and Keith.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
I competely agree, I don't get this 'can't hear Keith' on PMS, he is all over the entire track on the left channel, if that isnt Keith then has to be the best impersonation of him I ever heard.
Let me tell you a secret then, but keep it to yourself: It's Keith playing on 100 years ago, not Taylor or Jagger or anybody else. It's Keith all over, the best guitar player the world ever heard.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
I competely agree, I don't get this 'can't hear Keith' on PMS, he is all over the entire track on the left channel, if that isnt Keith then has to be the best impersonation of him I ever heard.
Let me tell you a secret then, but keep it to yourself: It's Keith playing on 100 years ago, not Taylor or Jagger or anybody else. It's Keith all over, the best guitar player the world ever heard.
Don't think Keith would want to play on such a shite song.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
I competely agree, I don't get this 'can't hear Keith' on PMS, he is all over the entire track on the left channel, if that isnt Keith then has to be the best impersonation of him I ever heard.
Let me tell you a secret then, but keep it to yourself: It's Keith playing on 100 years ago, not Taylor or Jagger or anybody else. It's Keith all over, the best guitar player the world ever heard.
Don't think Keith would want to play on such a shite song.
Well, your last sentence says enough.
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My main question would be: if Taylor was asked to do the overdubs on PMS, why did they settle with what is on the released track? It's fairly standard pentatonic run-through licks, nothing really spectacular. It's clearly edited down from several takes, or one very long take. I find it difficult to believe you went into the trouble getting Taylor to a studio, record his noodling and saying "that's a wrap Mick, it's fantastic", and then release the stuff.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
Sorry Mathijs, but everything Taylor did you call "noodling". Always the same mantra: Taylor noodles, Taylor can't play rhythm, Taylor's influence on the Rolling Stones during his membership of the band is of little or no importance etc. etc. I can't take your ears seriously. Others may do, I don't.
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Anyway, it's more than likely that Keith had little or nothing to do with the songwriting of 100 years ago, how 'witty' RD's fantasy might be, and that Taylor's contribution to one of the greatest Stonessongs ever was of more importance than Keith's.
According to Taylor, Jagger wrote 100 Years:
Some of the songs we used (for the album) were pretty old. 100 Years Ago was one that Mick (Jagger) had written 2 years ago and which we hadn't really got around to using before.
- Mick Taylor, 1973
And Jagger has stated he wrote it and that Billy Preston helped shaping it alot. Keith later stated when Preston left, that Preston was a fantastic musician but that he was sometimes too much for the Stones, as he would lead them away from what the Stones are. He mentioned 100 Years as an example.
The fact that Jagger credits Keith while he might not have wrotten anything is something between Mick and Keith.
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I know that quote. Doesn't deny my remark. The fact that the Glimmers credit each other injustly is not only something between them. It's a policy they've had since the very beginning, excluding other members of the band, including Taylor. I remember some other quotes of Taylor on this issue as well. I guess you'll believe them too.
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Rocky Dijon
Good one, Amsterdamned. You can't win, so you'll insult. I like that in a Taylorite. I have some Taylorite tendencies myself if you haven't noticed, but not enough to be accepted by the True Believers.
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Ps If not being able to hear Keith on PMS is like stating Keith isn't very prominent on Honky Tonk Women.
I competely agree, I don't get this 'can't hear Keith' on PMS, he is all over the entire track on the left channel, if that isnt Keith then has to be the best impersonation of him I ever heard.
Let me tell you a secret then, but keep it to yourself: It's Keith playing on 100 years ago, not Taylor or Jagger or anybody else. It's Keith all over, the best guitar player the world ever heard.
Don't think Keith would want to play on such a shite song.
Well, your last sentence says enough.