Anyone have any opinions/insights on the Bill German book? That guy could have been ME - about the same age. He was just slightly more rabid in his Stones addiction than I was (but not much). I have posted a lot today because I am home sick. This site is a good friend.
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I know...I was having fun with the fact that he used to be "Richard"
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Keith "Richard" indeed...
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<< JJF is my ringtone >> Which version?
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Agree with you LieB...I think bands like King Crimson, Floyd, Yes, etc. were great. Not my cup of tea, exactly, but great. My point was about rock musicians somehow becoming ashamed of playing "mere" rock. I experienced this myself when I was first starting to play in 74-75 and one ran into a lot of musicians during that period who thought the Stones were passe...I think Jazz died as a
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<< If anything, Tumbling Dice is way higher on the ladder, perhaps is the top, of what one could consider to be the definitive Rolling Stones song. >> Couldn't agree with this more. If someone from Mars came down and asked me to explain the Rolling Stones in one song, TD is the one I'd play. In my opinion, Jagger's downplaying of the quality/importance of Exile ha
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<< Charlie didn't start skipping the hi-hat until Some Girls. >> Good observation...I wonder if it was because of the tempo and beat of so many of those songs.
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Well, focusing on the better-quality material would probably put some needed limits on the project. You could then do Part II. I highly recommend Recording The Beatles as it has every mixing desk, eq box, limiter, and mic they ever used. Amazing bit of research. Well worth the $100 for the book. There's so much misinformation on the Stones sessions as to who played what. This is of course
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Usually the bassist creates his/her own part. Sometimes (as in the case of Miss You) the bass part is an integral part of the composition before recording commences, but not often.
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<<The press release issued by the Stones read "We didn't know this record was going to be released. It is, in our opinion, below the standard we try to keep up, both in choice of content and cover design." >> This is exactly the press release Stones fans could have issued in regard to much of their later studio efforts.
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A very good analysis, Rocky Dijon. They learned hard lessons from Andrew and Klein. But I also agree with JMoisica that Woody had an easier time (at least early on) because he was better-liked than Taylor. The Stones are ruthless users of people. I don't necessarily mean that in a pejorative sense. They took what they needed and then dropped people who were no longer useful, whether they
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It may not have been prog-rock technically, but it carries the stink of fusion, which was all the rage at the time. Many musicians had developed an attitude that rock or r&b was somehow something to be "outgrown". This is where Jeff Beck, John McLaughlin and all those other guitar-hero types were headed. Mick T. was seduced by this as well to some extent. Hasn't aged very well,
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I agree...It was like Lennon/McCartney in that they both got credit no matter who wrote what. Taylors name would have to be added, as it was for VB.
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Taylor certainly took over the role of Jagger's main musical collaborator. Maybe this led to some difficulties with Keith during this period. Collaboration still doesn't necessarily equal songwriting, so I'm not sure what you think MT should get "credit" for, in that context.
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Very interesting take, Canadian...I am a guitar player who learned to play drums playing to Some Girls over and over, so I copied the skipping the hi-hat every fourth beat from Charlie. Whether you call it "lazy" or not, it works perfectly with Keith's almost-out-of-kilter rhythms. So did Bill's somewhat odd bass style, which I really miss. A technically more "correct&quo
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Two reasons Exile is so great: Lyrics! Jagger was at the top of his game. Emotional, enigmatic, poetic, vulgar, all at the same time in some songs. Reason #2: The way Richards and Jagger sang together has never been better "Casino Boogie" just one example of an "ordinary" song having goose flesh moments. Also "Torn & Frayed", "Sweet Black Angel" and
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Very true...You can always tell why when even pro bands try to copy the Stones sound they fail musically. Two reasons: No Open G, and rock drumming instead of Charlie's idiosyncratic swing style.
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I think the first time Decca did it the Stones took out a huge ad in the trades saying it was not authorized by the group. "Rolling Stones only available on Rolling Stones Records".
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I think it's a jazz thing. He also tends to skip one beat in four on the hi-hat which is also very not-rock. I love it.
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I don't know if he wrote it, but it came from sessions for his solo album, and was certainly "hijacked". Apparently Richards wiped some of the original guitars, which were played by Wood, Jagger and David Bowie.
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What we need is a scholarly book along the lines of "Beatles Recording Sessions" or even better, "recording The Beatles". It would be great to have accurate song by song data for at least the period up through Tattoo You.
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Maybe they gave Wood credits because they didn't want to make the same mistake they had made with Taylor.
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Given that their recording career spans five decades, in multiple studios, continents and formats, that would be quite an undertaking...
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Well, then I am sure the Stones will correct the credits on those two tracks starting with the very next pressing of IORR, so that Taylor receives proper credit...Chuckle, chuckle
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Yep, that's it! Thanks. I assume most of these were issued later on the Singles Collection.
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After the Stones left Decca, a few unauthorized repackages were put out. One was actually quite good, as it had "Sad Day" and a number of other B-sides and rare tracks on it. This had the "pitchfork" JJF picture on the cover. I can't recall the title or track listing. Can anyone enlighten me? I don't believe it was ever issued on CD.
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Thanks for clearing that up...
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Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but I'm new here: How do smiley face icons get into posts if I don't put them there, and WHY are they put there? Is this something that is triggered automatically, or does someone insert them? Also, is the censorship of certain words automatic? Color Me Confused
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Yes, I agree, help with arrangements and coming up with distinctive guitar parts do not warrant songwriting credit. Many people don't understand this. Don't know if Taylor's contention on those tunes is due to those type of contributions or actually taking part in crafting lyrics and/or melody and chord progressions. Didn't the Procol Harum organist recently sue for royalti
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We all know that MT's only "official" writing credit is for Ventilator Blues (presumably for the great killer riff). But he was initially credited on I'm Going Down. Anyone know why his credit was later removed? Also, if he SHOULD receive other credits, what songs should he be entitled to credit on? I have read: Moonlight Mile (though this came from Keith's "Japan
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