I'm saddened no tour
Hope we can have 3 or 4 projects
1 vault 1 expanded black and blue
1 making of hackney
And new songs in a album /cd
Each day we all know we get closer to the end .thank you for all that you share thank you for the information provided. Gold rings on you

Ouch!! We were planning on seeing them in London. Thanks for the update BV. It was great bumping into you in Philadelphia and Atlanta.

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You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

Maybe it’s about time for Team Stones to consider residencies in fewer locations, e.g. London, Amsterdam, Paris, Munich and Rome, 2-3 shows each.

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You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

By that deduction you condone the band get ( excluding Mick, Keith & Ron ) no earnings from touring this year.
You applaud that too.

I find it hard to believe the Stones can't turn a worth while profit from 12 expensive stadium shows, as i suggested yesterday, the last show of the tour could be a worldwide pay-per-view.

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Maybe it’s about time for Team Stones to consider residencies in fewer locations, e.g. London, Amsterdam, Paris, Munich and Rome, 2-3 shows each.

Yes, very sensible. Anywhere but Vegas of course.

A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

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Maybe it’s about time for Team Stones to consider residencies in fewer locations, e.g. London, Amsterdam, Paris, Munich and Rome, 2-3 shows each.

Yes, very sensible. Anywhere but Vegas of course.

Arigato, sensei

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A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

This would be Mick's worst nightmare.

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spikenyc
A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

This would be Mick's worst nightmare.

Why?

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A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

This would be PERFECT

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This information comes from one of the promoters of the shows in Spain: the cancellation of the tour is 100% due to a logistical issue, problems with the shows in Spain and with only 3 shows in 21 days at the end of the tour in July, the costs were high with so many days off, the final numbers were made and the Stones canceled everything when they saw that the profit margin was small for all the work that the tour involved.

They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.

C'mon boys... let's go in the studio for a new album.

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You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

Of course they are motivated by money. To think otherwise is insane.

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Of course they are motivated by money. To think otherwise is insane.

You misread me. Anyway, aren't we all?

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You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

Of course they are motivated by money. To think otherwise is insane.

I think that level of greed is insane, especially when they already have hundreds of millions of pounds.
It's kind of off putting, when is enough enough at age 81.

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You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

Of course they are motivated by money. To think otherwise is insane.

I think that level of greed is insane, especially when they already have hundreds of millions of pounds.
It's kind of off putting, when is enough enough at age 81.

Lesson number one that you learn while you're young.
Kudos for The Stones and the success they deserve.

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I think that level of greed is insane, especially when they already have hundreds of millions of pounds.
It's kind of off putting, when is enough enough at age 81.

Yes and at the end of the day it's a lose/lose situation for all involved, for them, for their band, the dozens/hundreds of people who stood to make good money for themselves and their families from the tour, for the fans, etc...and possibly only because they stood to net €X million per show and not €X+1 million as was initially thought possible, insane greed indeed.

It's hard to think at this point in the game that they won't live to regret it...

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You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

Of course they are motivated by money. To think otherwise is insane.

I think that level of greed is insane, especially when they already have hundreds of millions of pounds.
It's kind of off putting, when is enough enough at age 81.

I think it makes perfect sense, if you're 80+ you probably need some damn good motivation to do all that work. A tour is a lot of effort, and if they can stay at home with family or work on an album with less travel with similar moneytary results then it probably makes more sense to not tour.

Of course it's heartbreaking for someone like me who was really dreaming about getting to see them for the first time

Twenty five years ago I was fortunate enough to spend an evening at Point of View in Ochos Rios.The house sitter and minder (who I shall not name) reminded me that the Rolling Stones had made that much money they would struggle to spend it.Further more performing/recording was in their DNA.
I think in 2025 the desire to do this is greater than ever.Sure they get paid well but after all they are the Greatest Rock and Roll band in the world.Anybody who thinks it’s purely about the money needs to learn more about the band.

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A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

Mick's worst nightmare, playing for an audience mostly over 60 that is on vacation at a resort, worse than Las Vegas.

One of the reasons why the Stones have only toured in stadiums in recent years is to prevent the entire audience from being so old, in a stadium more young people can see them and mix a little bit the ageing audience.

Mick is not going to accept residencies or shows in small places where only the most die hard fans go, he rather stays at home.

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keefriffhards


You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

Of course they are motivated by money. To think otherwise is insane.

I think that level of greed is insane, especially when they already have hundreds of millions of pounds.
It's kind of off putting, when is enough enough at age 81.

I think it makes perfect sense, if you're 80+ you probably need some damn good motivation to do all that work. A tour is a lot of effort, and if they can stay at home with family or work on an album with less travel with similar moneytary results then it probably makes more sense to not tour.

Of course it's heartbreaking for someone like me who was really dreaming about getting to see them for the first time

of course it's about money and the thrill they still get performing live

there are other ways for them to rake in money that don't involve exhausting 3 month tours in there 80's

plus these tour also seem like big family vacations too they all seem to bring family along on tour

and it's always to some large extent been about the money to them to think otherwise is just naive

people have been complaining about how "greedy" they are for 50 years this is nothing new

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This information comes from one of the promoters of the shows in Spain: the cancellation of the tour is 100% due to a logistical issue, problems with the shows in Spain and with only 3 shows in 21 days at the end of the tour in July, the costs were high with so many days off, the final numbers were made and the Stones canceled everything when they saw that the profit margin was small for all the work that the tour involved.

They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.

In that case it's time for Keith to get the Wino's back on the road.

Are you trying to kill the guy?

Keith's in a lot better shape than Bob Dylan and Dylan was fantastic last year on tour.

The last show Keith performed alone for more than 1 hour was in 1993.... 32 years ago!

Dylan does 80-90 shows a year, he is in much better shape and rhythm, I doubt Keith can lead a band at this age for more than 15-20 minutes, which is how long his set with the Stones lasts.

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This information comes from one of the promoters of the shows in Spain: the cancellation of the tour is 100% due to a logistical issue, problems with the shows in Spain and with only 3 shows in 21 days at the end of the tour in July, the costs were high with so many days off, the final numbers were made and the Stones canceled everything when they saw that the profit margin was small for all the work that the tour involved.

They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.

In that case it's time for Keith to get the Wino's back on the road.

Are you trying to kill the guy?

Keith's in a lot better shape than Bob Dylan and Dylan was fantastic last year on tour.

The last show Keith performed alone for more than 1 hour was in 1993.... 32 years ago!

Dylan does 80-90 shows a year, he is in much better shape and rhythm, I doubt Keith can lead a band at this age for more than 15-20 minutes, which is how long his set with the Stones lasts.

Bob is terrible on his legs now, when i saw him last year he could hardly walk, but still,, mostly at the piano he was great, vocally and on harmonica.

Keith performs with ease for 2 hours with the Stones, with the help of another vocalist to take the lead on some tracks Keith could perform for 90 minutes with the Winos.

Let's face it Keith can do a lot of ballads and people will still go home happy.

If he gets bored and wants to do some solo shows I'm sure he can still do it, he's looking fitter lately too.

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A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

Mick's worst nightmare, playing for an audience mostly over 60 that is on vacation at a resort, worse than Las Vegas.

One of the reasons why the Stones have only toured in stadiums in recent years is to prevent the entire audience from being so old, in a stadium more young people can see them and mix a little bit the ageing audience.

Mick is not going to accept residencies or shows in small places where only the most die hard fans go, he rather stays at home.

Exactly this.

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spikenyc
A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

Mick's worst nightmare, playing for an audience mostly over 60 that is on vacation at a resort, worse than Las Vegas.

One of the reasons why the Stones have only toured in stadiums in recent years is to prevent the entire audience from being so old, in a stadium more young people can see them and mix a little bit the ageing audience.

Mick is not going to accept residencies or shows in small places where only the most die hard fans go, he rather stays at home.

Exactly this.

Spot on George Licks.

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A residencie at a plush all-inclusive resort in Mexico would be great!
5 days - the Stones play the first and last night. (they get their 4 day rest)
Have different bands play on the off nights with a couple of sit-ins from Ronnie or Keef and/or other members of the band.

Its nice to dream...

This would be Mick's worst nightmare.

Why?

If THAT'S the option, I prefer they retire...

It's in German media: ntv - source: iorr, Sun and Süddeutsche Zeitung

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You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.

They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.

+1. And if the Stones were solely motivated by money, they would just keep playing the USA. That's where the wealth is. The EU/UK is much poorer, less productive and more regulated. Their willingness to try to make it work should be applauded not sneered at.

Of course they are motivated by money. To think otherwise is insane.

I think that level of greed is insane, especially when they already have hundreds of millions of pounds.
It's kind of off putting, when is enough enough at age 81.

Don't count other people's money.

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Bob is terrible on his legs now, when i saw him last year he could hardly walk, but still,, mostly at the piano he was great, vocally and on harmonica.

Keith performs with ease for 2 hours with the Stones, with the help of another vocalist to take the lead on some tracks Keith could perform for 90 minutes with the Winos.

Let's face it Keith can do a lot of ballads and people will still go home happy.

If he gets bored and wants to do some solo shows I'm sure he can still do it, he's looking fitter lately too.

So you say that after 32+ years, Keith will reform the Winos and play a 1,5 hour show/tour from nowhere?

He didn't play a single show when his last solo album was released almost 10 years ago, why now with 81 years?

If he gets bored at home he will go on vacations at the Caribean or by train in Europe, maybe a guest appearence during 5-10 minutes every once in a while, all the touring activy he does now (and from the last 30 years, actually) is wait to Mick if he want to tour, that's it.

On Keith's favor, Mick does the same, he can tour with any band solo anytime but he doesn't want to, only 1 solo show in 2001 during 30-40 minutes in 32 years and less than half dozen of guest apearences in that period (1993-2025) the last one during 6 minutes with Taylor Swift almost 10 years ago.

The reality is hard to accept.