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I hope so too
i think you'll probably get the chance
we've been here before recently and the amount of people screaming it's the end and they'll never tour again hasn't gotten anywhere near the fever pitch it was in 2023 when many here where convinced that mick was crippled for life based on a few seconds of distant poor qaulity video
facts seem to point to them really liking touring and i mean REALLY liking it since i can't imagine why they'd want to keep going into there 80's playing two hour concerts in stadiums
given there ages and also the travel i'm sure doing this for like two or three months must be painful and uncomfortable no matter how much is done to ensure there comfort it has to come down to the fact that they really like what they do and plan to do it until they either die or are completely physically unable to do it anymore
i'm sure the money there very good at making is a part of it but i don't think its the major reason (they have more then god it at this point) they've continued well past the point where reasonable people would throw in the towel
they've continued touring into there twilight years depite major personal loss, multible bouts of serious cancer, heart surgery and the death of charlie
this will all end pretty soon but as far as i see it if they're physically able to tour and perform right now chances are they'll be able to in six months to a year
much lower chances then 10 years ago but still probably greater then 50%
where there's a will there's a way and i think they'll find it
I hope so, I actually prefer to travel to Europe in Sept / Oct than middle of summer.
That's an interesting aspect.
Say 14 shows. Not 14 cities.
It's realistic they wouldn't bother with arenas, just NFL/CFL stadiums.
It's 100% possible they could do a US/Canada 2025 stadium tour.
Easy to say, right, but no idea, actually. Western flank - from Edmonton, AL and over then down to, eh, skipping LA, Mexico City.
Could the promoters make that work? Why not? The CFL makes one change. There's only 3 NFL teams on the west coast now and two are in one city, which would be avoided.
There are other stadia to play.
Won't happen. It would probably be viewed as a scrub.
I have been hoping for an indoor stadium/arena tour for many years. Just seeing the Stones indoors over a period of time would be perfection in my mind. 02 Arena, Manchester Coop, Cardiff Principality etc. These are serious venues (and I know mainland Europe also has these types of venues) that would create an incredible buzz.
Anyway, it is what it is. If Hyde Park 2022 is my last Stones gig then I'm pretty content with that. Anything else from here on in is a lovely bonus.
As long as the lads are happy and healthy that is the main thing.
Yes from a logical perspective they don't want to, or even more likely they can't.
I think there are some big factors that work against the Stones from potentially having logistical problems. First, their ages lead them to only wanting to commit to a tour a few months in advance. While a lot of work goes into trying to line up concerts and venues, this late approach they take likely impacts the holds they can have on venues. They aren’t going to get the best venues at the times they want if they aren’t securing them earlier. Look at Metallica on their current stadium tour. They announced dates in advance for 2 years. Clearly they made very early commitments to venues, which the Stones understandably can’t. AC/DC are about to announce their European dates, but they probably booked and committed to those last summer once they successfully got through the tour.
Then you factor in their high cost of tickets and it can make local promoters leery to take that great of risk. Look at the amount of cities being talked about for having 2 shows. Vienna went from having 2 to having 0. Amsterdam and Barcelona were set for 2, but maybe both would not sell out. Usually London is the only city in Europe that gets more than 1 show. Barcelona and Amsterdam having 2 shows may only have been planned because they couldn’t squeeze in other cities to the schedule and not based on presumed extra strong demand in those cities.
The other thing is with the routing that Bjornulf published, this tour was going to have a lot more expenses than usual for hotels for band and crew. Normally on a 14 date tour, the Stones play every 4 days. If you look at how this schedule was, the first 5 shows were from May 10-29, so 19 days instead of 16. Then it was a week before the run of 4 more shows before the standard mid tour week break. So prior to the break, they already had an extra week of hotel expenses compared to normal. After London there were only 3 more shows taking place in the next 21 days, meaning if it remained that way, that was an extra 9 days beyond normal for hotels and crew expenses. So in this 14 show schedule they had an extra 15 days of time beyond normal where it was just added expenses.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-01 11:34 by Halup.
Thanks man this makes me feel a lot better
You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.
I'm with you there. The generation of artists I follow, take an interest in, and whose concerts I go to and am prepared to travel for, are all now around 80 years old (+/-). Once they're done, I think my interest in (live) music will for sure diminish, probably to almost zero, all I'll be left with are the memories, the albums, the CDs.
For example, saw McCartney in Madrid in December 2024, have tickets for the WHO in London in March, Clapton in London, Rod Stewart in Kraków (both in May). And so on and so on. When these kind of artists finally stop, I do sometimes wonder ... what then ?
[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-01 14:14 by paulywaul.
That's it right there. Short and to the point. Thank you.
Last time I saw them indoors was twice in 2017, in Stockholm and Paris. But the old Albion hasn't had an indoor show since O2 in 2012 so I understand your frustration mate. Rock n Roll is made for being indoors where lights and sound can be controlled to a higher degree.
Time to expand your horizons. There are quite a few younger artists that, while not the Stones, put on one hell of a show. Last year I saw the Stones 9 times and saw over 150 others. Will I be sad if I never see the Stones again live? Yes but will I stop going to see live music, absolutely not. If the Stones never perform again it justifies attending the final show in Ridgedale.
In that case it's time for Keith to get the Wino's back on the road.
Are you trying to kill the guy?
They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-01 19:33 by Dan.
Keith's in a lot better shape than Bob Dylan and Dylan was fantastic last year on tour.
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Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
MisterO
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Date: February 1, 2025 01:00
I would also like to Thank BV for all he has done for our community of Rolling Stones fans.
Worrying never helps. I am optimistic that the Stones will tour again.
Worrying never helps. I am optimistic that the Stones will tour again.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
Glimmerest
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Date: February 1, 2025 01:06
Quote
MisterO
I would also like to Thank BV for all he has done for our community of Rolling Stones fans.
Worrying never helps. I am optimistic that the Stones will tour again.
I hope so too
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
NilsHolgersson
()
Date: February 1, 2025 01:11
I'm thinking if the Stones ever stop touring and releasing CDs, if I could follow another artist with the same interest... I don't think so... I've been a fan of Mick Jagger for so long... artists of that caliber actually don't exist anymore... if he stops I'm afraid I'll lose all interest in music. I enjoy hearing other music, but the people behind it don't really interest me and I wouldn't necessarily have to go to their concerts.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
ProfessorWolf
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Date: February 1, 2025 03:09
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GlimmerestQuote
frankotero
I've been talking about the tour here in Portugal for over a month now. Nobody cared except me, friends were excited for me anyway. People still like them but they're also not interested in the ridiculous prices. Unfortunately I think this goes against the bands strategy to remain on top and maintain their larger than life status. Therefore either they bend or move on. I suspect they chose to move on. Maybe they're right to think this way, I don't know. Anyhow it's amazing they kept their legacy alive for so long. Personally I'm good with that. Tell you what, I'm kind of relieved, the thousands I will be saving will help in retirement. I wish all the best for my fellow IORRians. We still have the records as John Lennon said about the end of The Beatles.
Well good for you but for me it sucks ass. If they stop touring I will never get to see them
i think you'll probably get the chance
we've been here before recently and the amount of people screaming it's the end and they'll never tour again hasn't gotten anywhere near the fever pitch it was in 2023 when many here where convinced that mick was crippled for life based on a few seconds of distant poor qaulity video
facts seem to point to them really liking touring and i mean REALLY liking it since i can't imagine why they'd want to keep going into there 80's playing two hour concerts in stadiums
given there ages and also the travel i'm sure doing this for like two or three months must be painful and uncomfortable no matter how much is done to ensure there comfort it has to come down to the fact that they really like what they do and plan to do it until they either die or are completely physically unable to do it anymore
i'm sure the money there very good at making is a part of it but i don't think its the major reason (they have more then god it at this point) they've continued well past the point where reasonable people would throw in the towel
they've continued touring into there twilight years depite major personal loss, multible bouts of serious cancer, heart surgery and the death of charlie
this will all end pretty soon but as far as i see it if they're physically able to tour and perform right now chances are they'll be able to in six months to a year
much lower chances then 10 years ago but still probably greater then 50%
where there's a will there's a way and i think they'll find it
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
WelshEdge1
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Date: February 1, 2025 04:19
I think they are well aware more than any of us that time is not on their side, after Charlie's passing and now Marianne recently. I'm sure they will look to see what's possible in the autumn time in Europe. There are plenty of "indoor" stadiums if it goes into October. September outdoors should still be fine, just venue availability would be awkward again with the football season from August onwards.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
Dan
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Date: February 1, 2025 05:01
Quote
WelshEdge1
I think they are well aware more than any of us that time is not on their side, after Charlie's passing and now Marianne recently. I'm sure they will look to see what's possible in the autumn time in Europe. There are plenty of "indoor" stadiums if it goes into October. September outdoors should still be fine, just venue availability would be awkward again with the football season from August onwards.
I hope so, I actually prefer to travel to Europe in Sept / Oct than middle of summer.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
GasLightStreet
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Date: February 1, 2025 06:55
Quote
Dan
They should have just pivoted to another North American tour
2-3 shows in Mexico, another show in Vegas, a few more in underplayed Canada where they should still be a top draw, etc and another high priced smaller show or 2 to top it off. Maybe even a festival.
They still can on a delayed timeline.
The problem with arena only shows is not just the ticket prices but the fact that the Stones have some of the highest per cap merch sales in the business that also have to be compensated for. That's another 7 figures right there.
That's an interesting aspect.
Say 14 shows. Not 14 cities.
It's realistic they wouldn't bother with arenas, just NFL/CFL stadiums.
It's 100% possible they could do a US/Canada 2025 stadium tour.
Easy to say, right, but no idea, actually. Western flank - from Edmonton, AL and over then down to, eh, skipping LA, Mexico City.
Could the promoters make that work? Why not? The CFL makes one change. There's only 3 NFL teams on the west coast now and two are in one city, which would be avoided.
There are other stadia to play.
Won't happen. It would probably be viewed as a scrub.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
petewasbristol
()
Date: February 1, 2025 08:38
Quote
WelshEdge1
I think they are well aware more than any of us that time is not on their side, after Charlie's passing and now Marianne recently. I'm sure they will look to see what's possible in the autumn time in Europe. There are plenty of "indoor" stadiums if it goes into October. September outdoors should still be fine, just venue availability would be awkward again with the football season from August onwards.
I have been hoping for an indoor stadium/arena tour for many years. Just seeing the Stones indoors over a period of time would be perfection in my mind. 02 Arena, Manchester Coop, Cardiff Principality etc. These are serious venues (and I know mainland Europe also has these types of venues) that would create an incredible buzz.
Anyway, it is what it is. If Hyde Park 2022 is my last Stones gig then I'm pretty content with that. Anything else from here on in is a lovely bonus.
As long as the lads are happy and healthy that is the main thing.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
DREAMTIME
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Date: February 1, 2025 08:43
I would like a month long or more depending on days off, residency at Royal Albert Hall
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
powerage78
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Date: February 1, 2025 09:21
Health is the main thing.
But I'm sorry, but I can't believe that a logistical problem could have prevented the tour. As I said, other major bands have managed to do it for next spring and summer by making choices and compromises about countries and venues. This was the case for AC/DC in 2024 (no stadium in France because of the Olympic Games, but back in 2025 for one or two Paris SDF).
In other words, when the Stones want to, they can...
But I'm sorry, but I can't believe that a logistical problem could have prevented the tour. As I said, other major bands have managed to do it for next spring and summer by making choices and compromises about countries and venues. This was the case for AC/DC in 2024 (no stadium in France because of the Olympic Games, but back in 2025 for one or two Paris SDF).
In other words, when the Stones want to, they can...
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: February 1, 2025 10:54
Quote
powerage78
Health is the main thing.
But I'm sorry, but I can't believe that a logistical problem could have prevented the tour. As I said, other major bands have managed to do it for next spring and summer by making choices and compromises about countries and venues. This was the case for AC/DC in 2024 (no stadium in France because of the Olympic Games, but back in 2025 for one or two Paris SDF).
In other words, when the Stones want to, they can...
Yes from a logical perspective they don't want to, or even more likely they can't.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
Halup
()
Date: February 1, 2025 11:26
Quote
powerage78
Health is the main thing.
But I'm sorry, but I can't believe that a logistical problem could have prevented the tour. As I said, other major bands have managed to do it for next spring and summer by making choices and compromises about countries and venues. This was the case for AC/DC in 2024 (no stadium in France because of the Olympic Games, but back in 2025 for one or two Paris SDF).
In other words, when the Stones want to, they can...
I think there are some big factors that work against the Stones from potentially having logistical problems. First, their ages lead them to only wanting to commit to a tour a few months in advance. While a lot of work goes into trying to line up concerts and venues, this late approach they take likely impacts the holds they can have on venues. They aren’t going to get the best venues at the times they want if they aren’t securing them earlier. Look at Metallica on their current stadium tour. They announced dates in advance for 2 years. Clearly they made very early commitments to venues, which the Stones understandably can’t. AC/DC are about to announce their European dates, but they probably booked and committed to those last summer once they successfully got through the tour.
Then you factor in their high cost of tickets and it can make local promoters leery to take that great of risk. Look at the amount of cities being talked about for having 2 shows. Vienna went from having 2 to having 0. Amsterdam and Barcelona were set for 2, but maybe both would not sell out. Usually London is the only city in Europe that gets more than 1 show. Barcelona and Amsterdam having 2 shows may only have been planned because they couldn’t squeeze in other cities to the schedule and not based on presumed extra strong demand in those cities.
The other thing is with the routing that Bjornulf published, this tour was going to have a lot more expenses than usual for hotels for band and crew. Normally on a 14 date tour, the Stones play every 4 days. If you look at how this schedule was, the first 5 shows were from May 10-29, so 19 days instead of 16. Then it was a week before the run of 4 more shows before the standard mid tour week break. So prior to the break, they already had an extra week of hotel expenses compared to normal. After London there were only 3 more shows taking place in the next 21 days, meaning if it remained that way, that was an extra 9 days beyond normal for hotels and crew expenses. So in this 14 show schedule they had an extra 15 days of time beyond normal where it was just added expenses.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-01 11:34 by Halup.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
Glimmerest
()
Date: February 1, 2025 12:55
Quote
ProfessorWolfQuote
GlimmerestQuote
frankotero
I've been talking about the tour here in Portugal for over a month now. Nobody cared except me, friends were excited for me anyway. People still like them but they're also not interested in the ridiculous prices. Unfortunately I think this goes against the bands strategy to remain on top and maintain their larger than life status. Therefore either they bend or move on. I suspect they chose to move on. Maybe they're right to think this way, I don't know. Anyhow it's amazing they kept their legacy alive for so long. Personally I'm good with that. Tell you what, I'm kind of relieved, the thousands I will be saving will help in retirement. I wish all the best for my fellow IORRians. We still have the records as John Lennon said about the end of The Beatles.
Well good for you but for me it sucks ass. If they stop touring I will never get to see them
i think you'll probably get the chance
we've been here before recently and the amount of people screaming it's the end and they'll never tour again hasn't gotten anywhere near the fever pitch it was in 2023 when many here where convinced that mick was crippled for life based on a few seconds of distant poor qaulity video
facts seem to point to them really liking touring and i mean REALLY liking it since i can't imagine why they'd want to keep going into there 80's playing two hour concerts in stadiums
given there ages and also the travel i'm sure doing this for like two or three months must be painful and uncomfortable no matter how much is done to ensure there comfort it has to come down to the fact that they really like what they do and plan to do it until they either die or are completely physically unable to do it anymore
i'm sure the money there very good at making is a part of it but i don't think its the major reason (they have more then god it at this point) they've continued well past the point where reasonable people would throw in the towel
they've continued touring into there twilight years depite major personal loss, multible bouts of serious cancer, heart surgery and the death of charlie
this will all end pretty soon but as far as i see it if they're physically able to tour and perform right now chances are they'll be able to in six months to a year
much lower chances then 10 years ago but still probably greater then 50%
where there's a will there's a way and i think they'll find it
Thanks man this makes me feel a lot better
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
phd27
()
Date: February 1, 2025 12:55
This band planned as said multiple times this tour for monthes. BV provided, many thanks to him, full details of the ongoing process all along. Cities dates changed many times. It is then not a logistical issue. Insurance premium, Stones demand,etc….. I come up to the sole unique: age. In 2026, they will reach 82 and 83. Let’ s face it: it’s over. The passing of Charlie was the starting point. I had 60 years of passionnate concerts. Thx to this outstanding band.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: February 1, 2025 13:07
Quote
phd27
This band planned as said multiple times this tour for monthes. BV provided, many thanks to him, full details of the ongoing process all along. Cities dates changed many times. It is then not a logistical issue. Insurance premium, Stones demand,etc….. I come up to the sole unique: age. In 2026, they will reach 82 and 83. Let’ s face it: it’s over. The passing of Charlie was the starting point. I had 60 years of passionnate concerts. Thx to this outstanding band.
You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
paulywaul
()
Date: February 1, 2025 13:29
Quote
NilsHolgersson
I'm thinking if the Stones ever stop touring and releasing CDs, if I could follow another artist with the same interest... I don't think so... I've been a fan of Mick Jagger for so long... artists of that caliber actually don't exist anymore... if he stops I'm afraid I'll lose all interest in music. I enjoy hearing other music, but the people behind it don't really interest me and I wouldn't necessarily have to go to their concerts.
I'm with you there. The generation of artists I follow, take an interest in, and whose concerts I go to and am prepared to travel for, are all now around 80 years old (+/-). Once they're done, I think my interest in (live) music will for sure diminish, probably to almost zero, all I'll be left with are the memories, the albums, the CDs.
For example, saw McCartney in Madrid in December 2024, have tickets for the WHO in London in March, Clapton in London, Rod Stewart in Kraków (both in May). And so on and so on. When these kind of artists finally stop, I do sometimes wonder ... what then ?
[ I want to shout, but I can hardly speak ]
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-01 14:14 by paulywaul.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
frankotero
()
Date: February 1, 2025 14:02
Quote
keefriffhards
You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.
That's it right there. Short and to the point. Thank you.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
ukcal
()
Date: February 1, 2025 14:36
Sorry to hear this , and I hope its not a health issue.
But they cant need the money anymore, just do 7 nights at the O2 London and 7 nights at MSG, NY and make a small profit
But they cant need the money anymore, just do 7 nights at the O2 London and 7 nights at MSG, NY and make a small profit
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
Bjorn
()
Date: February 1, 2025 14:40
No, cant be about money. No way. I feel a bit sad. But that´s only me.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
MadMax
()
Date: February 1, 2025 15:27
Quote
petewasbristolQuote
WelshEdge1
I think they are well aware more than any of us that time is not on their side, after Charlie's passing and now Marianne recently. I'm sure they will look to see what's possible in the autumn time in Europe. There are plenty of "indoor" stadiums if it goes into October. September outdoors should still be fine, just venue availability would be awkward again with the football season from August onwards.
I have been hoping for an indoor stadium/arena tour for many years. Just seeing the Stones indoors over a period of time would be perfection in my mind. 02 Arena, Manchester Coop, Cardiff Principality etc. These are serious venues (and I know mainland Europe also has these types of venues) that would create an incredible buzz.
Anyway, it is what it is. If Hyde Park 2022 is my last Stones gig then I'm pretty content with that. Anything else from here on in is a lovely bonus.
As long as the lads are happy and healthy that is the main thing.
Last time I saw them indoors was twice in 2017, in Stockholm and Paris. But the old Albion hasn't had an indoor show since O2 in 2012 so I understand your frustration mate. Rock n Roll is made for being indoors where lights and sound can be controlled to a higher degree.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
RisingStone
()
Date: February 1, 2025 16:01
It’s not over till it’s over.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
daspyknows
()
Date: February 1, 2025 17:59
Quote
paulywaulQuote
NilsHolgersson
I'm thinking if the Stones ever stop touring and releasing CDs, if I could follow another artist with the same interest... I don't think so... I've been a fan of Mick Jagger for so long... artists of that caliber actually don't exist anymore... if he stops I'm afraid I'll lose all interest in music. I enjoy hearing other music, but the people behind it don't really interest me and I wouldn't necessarily have to go to their concerts.
I'm with you there. The generation of artists I follow, take an interest in, and whose concerts I go to and am prepared to travel for, are all now around 80 years old (+/-). Once they're done, I think my interest in (live) music will for sure diminish, probably to almost zero, all I'll be left with are the memories, the albums, the CDs.
For example, saw McCartney in Madrid in December 2024, have tickets for the WHO in London in March, Clapton in London, Rod Stewart in Kraków (both in May). And so on and so on. When these kind of artists finally stop, I do sometimes wonder ... what then ?
Time to expand your horizons. There are quite a few younger artists that, while not the Stones, put on one hell of a show. Last year I saw the Stones 9 times and saw over 150 others. Will I be sad if I never see the Stones again live? Yes but will I stop going to see live music, absolutely not. If the Stones never perform again it justifies attending the final show in Ridgedale.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
georgelicks
()
Date: February 1, 2025 18:23
This information comes from one of the promoters of the shows in Spain: the cancellation of the tour is 100% due to a logistical issue, problems with the shows in Spain and with only 3 shows in 21 days at the end of the tour in July, the costs were high with so many days off, the final numbers were made and the Stones canceled everything when they saw that the profit margin was small for all the work that the tour involved.
They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.
They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
keefriffhards
()
Date: February 1, 2025 18:38
Quote
georgelicks
This information comes from one of the promoters of the shows in Spain: the cancellation of the tour is 100% due to a logistical issue, problems with the shows in Spain and with only 3 shows in 21 days at the end of the tour in July, the costs were high with so many days off, the final numbers were made and the Stones canceled everything when they saw that the profit margin was small for all the work that the tour involved.
They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.
In that case it's time for Keith to get the Wino's back on the road.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
More Hot Rocks
()
Date: February 1, 2025 18:43
Quote
keefriffhardsQuote
georgelicks
This information comes from one of the promoters of the shows in Spain: the cancellation of the tour is 100% due to a logistical issue, problems with the shows in Spain and with only 3 shows in 21 days at the end of the tour in July, the costs were high with so many days off, the final numbers were made and the Stones canceled everything when they saw that the profit margin was small for all the work that the tour involved.
They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.
In that case it's time for Keith to get the Wino's back on the road.
Are you trying to kill the guy?
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
Dan
()
Date: February 1, 2025 18:54
Quote
keefriffhards
You can't say for sure it's over but i hear you and it's disappointing they cancelled this summer tour because allegedly they needed more profit.
That to me is sad.
They can't be expected to eat the cost either. They have bills too. The principals can't be expected to take home less money than the person who owns the parking lot.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-01 19:33 by Dan.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by:
gotdablouse
()
Date: February 1, 2025 19:08
I seriously doubt they were going to be "out of pocket" !!! It's more likely they were only going to net €Xm/concert instead of maybe €X+1m...
I suppose one of their "drives" (at least for Mick) has always been "let's make more money than the last time" so when that's no longer possible well...the tour gets scrapped. Thing is it's unlikely to be any different later this year or in 2026...so yes maybe that's the end.
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I suppose one of their "drives" (at least for Mick) has always been "let's make more money than the last time" so when that's no longer possible well...the tour gets scrapped. Thing is it's unlikely to be any different later this year or in 2026...so yes maybe that's the end.
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Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
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Date: February 1, 2025 19:36
If this is the end, I prefer it this way rather than a big farewell tour. Ending as a functioning touring and recording band rather than a nostalgia/last time tour is much cooler.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
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Date: February 1, 2025 20:07
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This information comes from one of the promoters of the shows in Spain: the cancellation of the tour is 100% due to a logistical issue, problems with the shows in Spain and with only 3 shows in 21 days at the end of the tour in July, the costs were high with so many days off, the final numbers were made and the Stones canceled everything when they saw that the profit margin was small for all the work that the tour involved.
They are going to try to put something before the end of the year, maybe even fewer shows but Mick is not very motivated by not playing in stadiums so we will see in April or May if they can close something shorter for the fall of 2025.
In that case it's time for Keith to get the Wino's back on the road.
Are you trying to kill the guy?
Keith's in a lot better shape than Bob Dylan and Dylan was fantastic last year on tour.
Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
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Date: February 1, 2025 20:18
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They should have just pivoted to another North American tour
2-3 shows in Mexico, another show in Vegas, a few more in underplayed Canada where they should still be a top draw, etc and another high priced smaller show or 2 to top it off. Maybe even a festival.
They still can on a delayed timeline.
The problem with arena only shows is not just the ticket prices but the fact that the Stones have some of the highest per cap merch sales in the business that also have to be compensated for. That's another 7 figures right there.
That's an interesting aspect.
Say 14 shows. Not 14 cities.
It's realistic they wouldn't bother with arenas, just NFL/CFL stadiums.
It's 100% possible they could do a US/Canada 2025 stadium tour.
Easy to say, right, but no idea, actually. Western flank - from Edmonton, AL and over then down to, eh, skipping LA, Mexico City.
Could the promoters make that work? Why not? The CFL makes one change. There's only 3 NFL teams on the west coast now and two are in one city, which would be avoided.
There are other stadia to play.
Maybe. N America summer 2026. Gives them this year to make new lp asIm sure there lots songs leftover from Hackney I hear but then who knows what their plans are
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