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If it’s true, then why didn’t Mick sign the contract?

Well it could be that Mick was talking to other band members, promoters, officials and maybe one of the talks just didnt go as planned so he did not sign. I think it is pretty simple and we can't change any of it.

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Arena might be in the name of those venues in 2017 but they were not arenas... stadiums with a retractable roof or indoor stadiums. Gelredome, the smallest venue in 2017 is a small football stadium.

U-Arena is a basketball arena. Wouldn't call it a stadium. But yeah, it ain't hockey arenas with maximum 22 K capacities so I get what you mean.

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Arena might be in the name of those venues in 2017 but they were not arenas... stadiums with a retractable roof or indoor stadiums. Gelredome, the smallest venue in 2017 is a small football stadium.

U-Arena is a basketball arena. Wouldn't call it a stadium. But yeah, it ain't hockey arenas with maximum 22 K capacities so I get what you mean.

It's actually a Rugby Stadium with a fixed roof and has a rugby sized floor area. It was built as the new home of Racing 92 Rugby Club. It's the biggest indoor arena in Europe (excluding those with retractable roofs). It holds 30,000 for Rugby and up to 40,000 for concerts.

For comparison, AC/DC just announced their 2025 European Tour dates: [iorr.org] .

Mick and logistics can go hand in hand. I can imagine mick did not like the tour shedule, especially the last weeks.

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For comparison, AC/DC just announced their 2025 European Tour dates: [iorr.org] .

all the best rock bands will play concerts in 2025 and The Stones will enter 2026 alone. Everything is becoming clear now....

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For comparison, AC/DC just announced their 2025 European Tour dates: [iorr.org] .

all the best rock bands will play concerts in 2025 and The Stones will enter 2026 alone. Everything is becoming clear now....

The Stones will enter 2026 alone? Hopefully … ALIVE.

Rod

Lets hope they clammer up on ta the back of
Hack the Grammy horse and deliver another studio album ......



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Arena might be in the name of those venues in 2017 but they were not arenas... stadiums with a retractable roof or indoor stadiums. Gelredome, the smallest venue in 2017 is a small football stadium.

U-Arena is a basketball arena. Wouldn't call it a stadium. But yeah, it ain't hockey arenas with maximum 22 K capacities so I get what you mean.

It's actually a Rugby Stadium with a fixed roof and has a rugby sized floor area. It was built as the new home of Racing 92 Rugby Club. It's the biggest indoor arena in Europe (excluding those with retractable roofs). It holds 30,000 for Rugby and up to 40,000 for concerts.

Nice one mate! Now I get why the pitch was so big

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Now the good news is that with the Grammy he's likely going to be highly motivated to finish off the "75%" (or "2/3" depending on which interview he gave) finished follow-up to HD. It would have been a bit "silly" to "tour" HD in Europe nearly 2 years after it was released. Now they can tour 2 albums, like at the time of TY !

…or Mick, Keith and Ronnie, the entire Stones team for that matter, are motivated and spurred by winning the Grammy Best Rock Album Award into rekindling the idea of reorganizing the Hackney Diamonds European tour for late summer/early autumn. I’d rather hope so.

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Now the good news is that with the Grammy he's likely going to be highly motivated to finish off the "75%" (or "2/3" depending on which interview he gave) finished follow-up to HD. It would have been a bit "silly" to "tour" HD in Europe nearly 2 years after it was released. Now they can tour 2 albums, like at the time of TY !

…or Mick, Keith and Ronnie, the entire Stones team for that matter, are motivated and spurred by winning the Grammy Best Rock Album Award into rekindling the idea of reorganizing the Hackney Diamonds European tour for late summer/early autumn. I’d rather hope so.

It sounds like Keith & Ronnie were motivated enough anyway but let's hope you're right.

Yes, if the reasons are of a organizational nature then the best solution is to plan better tour this year :-)

Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

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Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

Well, it's hyper speculation, but, if we're going there and you're a business person what would you do?

I don't think it's one or the other. The football club would want both.

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I don't think it's one or the other. The football club would want both.

clearly. But dealing in an either/or hypothetical I believe was the point.

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Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

Well, it's hyper speculation, but, if we're going there and you're a business person what would you do?

I don't know on person that would see The Stones that would go see Beyonce.

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Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

The Beyonce dates are from June 5-12, ending 12 days before the Stones were scheduled.

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Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

Well, it's hyper speculation, but, if we're going there and you're a business person what would you do?

I don't know on person that would see The Stones that would go see Beyonce.

Not a fan but would go record it just to say I did. Sort of like Taylor Swift. Just won't pay what those tickets cost. Stones on the other hand I would and have paid.

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Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

Well, it's hyper speculation, but, if we're going there and you're a business person what would you do?

No - these Beyoncé dates were rumoured back in nov

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For comparison, AC/DC just announced their 2025 European Tour dates: [iorr.org] .

They tend to share crews...Opie looks to be busy this year.

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Great news from one of your operators: the tour is postponed, not deleted.
Sorry for not stating which tour operator is, due to privacy.

That's what I heard too, but my source added "hopefully".

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Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

Well, it's hyper speculation, but, if we're going there and you're a business person what would you do?

No - these Beyoncé dates were rumoured back in nov

Well, spurs fans got rubbish taste (except for our beloved Charlie of course) so probably true. Now, had it been planned for Ashburton Grove they've would've asked Beyonce to support the lads.



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Great news from one of your operators: the tour is postponed, not deleted.
Sorry for not stating which tour operator is, due to privacy.

That's what I heard too, but my source added "hopefully".

Italy is obviously one of the places where it's still viable to play outdoors until later into the year. Hoping for a 2017 style tour with Southern Europe outdoors followed by the North in covered stadia.

Plenty of possibilities for the latter, even here in the UK with the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales - an excellent concert venue in my experience with roof open or closed. 20 years ago, Oasis played there in December !

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Great news from one of your operators: the tour is postponed, not deleted.
Sorry for not stating which tour operator is, due to privacy.

That's what I heard too, but my source added "hopefully".

Italy is obviously one of the places where it's still viable to play outdoors until later into the year. Hoping for a 2017 style tour with Southern Europe outdoors followed by the North in covered stadia.

Plenty of possibilities for the latter, even here in the UK with the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales - an excellent concert venue in my experience with roof open or closed. 20 years ago, Oasis played there in December !

and Manic Street Preachers played there 31/12/1999

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Logistics, money, whatever it is, it made me wonder why some bands (Pearl Jam currently, for example) play the same arena two times in three days as opposed to playing a stadium once. Is it because an arena stage is cheaper? Is it because they are expecting people to go to both shows, therefore selling more tickets?

PJ do change the setlists every show. Could be a factor.

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Great news from one of your operators: the tour is postponed, not deleted.
Sorry for not stating which tour operator is, due to privacy.

That's what I heard too, but my source added "hopefully".

Italy is obviously one of the places where it's still viable to play outdoors until later into the year. Hoping for a 2017 style tour with Southern Europe outdoors followed by the North in covered stadia.

Plenty of possibilities for the latter, even here in the UK with the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales - an excellent concert venue in my experience with roof open or closed. 20 years ago, Oasis played there in December !

and Manic Street Preachers played there 31/12/1999

Wow - I didn't actually know that!! It must have been quite the party atmosphere with it being a home gig for them.

I do know that was the year the Stadium opened. IIRC there were some initial problems with the sliding roof but they were very obviously sorted by then


For many reasons, it's my favourite big stadium in the UK by a mile. I was at both Stones shows there (2006 & 2018)

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Great news from one of your operators: the tour is postponed, not deleted.
Sorry for not stating which tour operator is, due to privacy.

That's what I heard too, but my source added "hopefully".

Italy is obviously one of the places where it's still viable to play outdoors until later into the year. Hoping for a 2017 style tour with Southern Europe outdoors followed by the North in covered stadia.

Plenty of possibilities for the latter, even here in the UK with the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales - an excellent concert venue in my experience with roof open or closed. 20 years ago, Oasis played there in December !

and Manic Street Preachers played there 31/12/1999

The Manics are absolute legends! I’d love for them to be the Stones’ opener. That boat may have sailed, yet I’m sure they’d have gladly done so.

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Very interesting announcement just came out. Beyonce is performing at the Tottenham stadium in June around the same time the Stones were due to and for four nights. Might be no connection but it’s weird timing. Do you think they told the Stones they wanted her instead?

Well, it's hyper speculation, but, if we're going there and you're a business person what would you do?

No - these Beyoncé dates were rumoured back in nov

Oh okay. I had no idea they were rumored back in November. I’m not a fan so I wouldn't go see her anyway. Also replying to others here; good point her dates were a week prior to the Stones show dates. Is there a limit on number of concerts at the Tottenham stadium per year though?

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Let's be serious, all these logistical issues are nothing but hot air...

I think it's pretty plausible

I don't believe it for a second.
But it's probably the most reassuring and diplomatic explanation.
Time is short, and if they had really wanted to tour, the logistical issue would have been quickly settled...

Did you ever look at Bjornulf’s list of shows and think to yourself that all the gaps in the schedule made no sense, especially only 3 shows in the last 21 days? A 14 show schedule taling 2 weeks longer than normal suggests logistical issues as a lot of extra expenses are incurred in just sitting around between shows. The evidence was there in Bjornulf’s list, plus in what Georgelicks got from the Spanish promoter.