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Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Christos ()
Date: February 2, 2025 18:52

Plot twist: what if they refused to go on tour when they realized how ridiculously high ticket prices would be?

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: February 2, 2025 19:06

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stereomanic
To postpone the entire tour by a year seems like some sort of cop out.

Plus it's The Rolling Stones, I think they need new promoters. If you can't schedule a tour for the greatest living band on earth then they're clearly not up to the job.

"Sorry, we had a few snags in the schedule so let's wait until Mick and Keef are yet another year older. Hopefully they'll make 83." Doesn't really make any sense whatsoever. The album promotion is kinda dead by then too.

I'm not speculating anything but just seems like a very big cop out. Did Mick really say, "oh well yeah never mind we'll put it on ice for another year?" He obviously likes to stay pretty "match fit". For a band going into their 80s time isn't exactly on their side. Bizzare.

Outside of touring they should just do 10 nights in London. Let people come to them which they will. Any venue in London would do it.

You nailed it with this post, i strongly suspect it is a cop out.

It's just excuses, we will never know the real reason, it was the same in 2023, it was on and then it was off, no explanation.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: WelshEdge1 ()
Date: February 2, 2025 19:10

Arena might be in the name of those venues in 2017 but they were not arenas... stadiums with a retractable roof or indoor stadiums. Gelredome, the smallest venue in 2017 is a small football stadium.



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Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Date: February 2, 2025 19:13

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keefriffhards
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stereomanic
To postpone the entire tour by a year seems like some sort of cop out.

Plus it's The Rolling Stones, I think they need new promoters. If you can't schedule a tour for the greatest living band on earth then they're clearly not up to the job.

"Sorry, we had a few snags in the schedule so let's wait until Mick and Keef are yet another year older. Hopefully they'll make 83." Doesn't really make any sense whatsoever. The album promotion is kinda dead by then too.

I'm not speculating anything but just seems like a very big cop out. Did Mick really say, "oh well yeah never mind we'll put it on ice for another year?" He obviously likes to stay pretty "match fit". For a band going into their 80s time isn't exactly on their side. Bizzare.

Outside of touring they should just do 10 nights in London. Let people come to them which they will. Any venue in London would do it.

You nailed it with this post, i strongly suspect it is a cop out.

It's just excuses, we will never know the real reason, it was the same in 2023, it was on and then it was off, no explanation.

I also think that the reason is on the personal side of the Rolling Stones, especially if this year there will be no other shows/tour in Europe. If there are some, then it could be "we can arrange it better later" reason. Anyway fear of low sales is very unlikely. The Rolling Stones have got very high selling power and would fill big cities' venues of Europe easily.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2025-02-02 19:17 by jumpingjackflash5.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Dan ()
Date: February 2, 2025 19:23

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tiffanyblu
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Matt1984
Contracts were all signed apart from Mick, who refused to sign. Apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Matt, source on this?

I love this board. smiling smiley

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: February 2, 2025 19:44

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jumpingjackflash5
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keefriffhards
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stereomanic
To postpone the entire tour by a year seems like some sort of cop out.

Plus it's The Rolling Stones, I think they need new promoters. If you can't schedule a tour for the greatest living band on earth then they're clearly not up to the job.

"Sorry, we had a few snags in the schedule so let's wait until Mick and Keef are yet another year older. Hopefully they'll make 83." Doesn't really make any sense whatsoever. The album promotion is kinda dead by then too.

I'm not speculating anything but just seems like a very big cop out. Did Mick really say, "oh well yeah never mind we'll put it on ice for another year?" He obviously likes to stay pretty "match fit". For a band going into their 80s time isn't exactly on their side. Bizzare.

Outside of touring they should just do 10 nights in London. Let people come to them which they will. Any venue in London would do it.

You nailed it with this post, i strongly suspect it is a cop out.

It's just excuses, we will never know the real reason, it was the same in 2023, it was on and then it was off, no explanation.

I also think that the reason is on the personal side of the Rolling Stones, especially if this year there will be no other shows/tour in Europe. If there are some, then it could be "we can arrange it better later" reason. Anyway fear of low sales is very unlikely. The Rolling Stones have got very high selling power and would fill big cities' venues of Europe easily.

Agreed, reading between the lines they had every intention of touring this year, my initial reaction to the tour being cancelled last minute was most probably a failed medical or an injury of some kind, or maybe Mick just didn't feel up to the task, he trains hard, he knows what level of fitness he needs to be at to complete a tour.

Of course it's disappointing, i was looking forward to seeing them for the last time but all good things come to an end.

I understand the lack of transparency too, these guys are old and need insurance and promoters to believe in them, so it makes sense to say logistics is the problem.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: tiffanyblu ()
Date: February 2, 2025 19:50

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Dan
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tiffanyblu
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Matt1984
Contracts were all signed apart from Mick, who refused to sign. Apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Matt, source on this?

I love this board. smiling smiley

haha so do I grinning smiley

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: franzk ()
Date: February 2, 2025 20:27

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keefriffhards
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stereomanic
To postpone the entire tour by a year seems like some sort of cop out.

Plus it's The Rolling Stones, I think they need new promoters. If you can't schedule a tour for the greatest living band on earth then they're clearly not up to the job.

"Sorry, we had a few snags in the schedule so let's wait until Mick and Keef are yet another year older. Hopefully they'll make 83." Doesn't really make any sense whatsoever. The album promotion is kinda dead by then too.

I'm not speculating anything but just seems like a very big cop out. Did Mick really say, "oh well yeah never mind we'll put it on ice for another year?" He obviously likes to stay pretty "match fit". For a band going into their 80s time isn't exactly on their side. Bizzare.

Outside of touring they should just do 10 nights in London. Let people come to them which they will. Any venue in London would do it.

You nailed it with this post, i strongly suspect it is a cop out.

It's just excuses, we will never know the real reason, it was the same in 2023, it was on and then it was off, no explanation.

Of course this could be health-related, but I think it could be that just the numbers did not add up this time. When you have 14 shows spread up over 2 months that means you have 46 days of no shows. And you have to pay their crew every day for accomodation, meals, salary etc. Maybe this time they could not figure it out? The insurance costs might get higher, gas prices, taxes etc.?

Sure, one can say "why don't they book cheaper hotels and flights? Or play more shows?" But at this point they do this mostly for fun. They don't need to tour to promote the album and make more money. If they want to play 1-2 shows a week and take their families with them they have right to do so. And if the Excel spreadsheet this time did not show enough profit (you must also include the risk of postponed/cancelled shows that generates more costs) they might have decided that it's better not to risk and pull out the plug.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: More Hot Rocks ()
Date: February 2, 2025 20:52

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tiffanyblu
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Dan
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tiffanyblu
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Matt1984
Contracts were all signed apart from Mick, who refused to sign. Apologies if this has already been mentioned.

Matt, source on this?

I love this board. smiling smiley

haha so do I grinning smiley

Ok Matt was it a friend of your sister in law's boss's nephew who knew a ticket taker who heard it from somebody that read it on Reddit?

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: February 2, 2025 20:57

Wonder if a 7 city, 14 date fall tour might work. Play Wednesdays and Saturdays in each city. Maybe have 3 European cities and 4 North American cities (1 Canada, 1 Mexico, 2 US).

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: RisingStone ()
Date: February 2, 2025 21:11

Was considering Ams #2 and London #1.
Cancelled the hotel in Ams.
Will keep the London one for a while to see if there is a possible gig by some other artist, before moving on to Glasto.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: daspyknows ()
Date: February 2, 2025 22:01

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NashvilleBlues
Wonder if a 7 city, 14 date fall tour might work. Play Wednesdays and Saturdays in each city. Maybe have 3 European cities and 4 North American cities (1 Canada, 1 Mexico, 2 US).

Transportation costs and border crossings will kill that one if finances put the kibosh on this tour.

For me its as long as its not health related it sucks but if the numbers don't work, they don't work. Keeping a touring operation on the road for 2 shows a week is very expensive.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Matt1984 ()
Date: February 2, 2025 22:20

I’m not revealing my source as I would hate to get anyone in trouble, but it is reliable. The complications with travel/venues is all bs. Mick didn’t sign his contract and that is the reason it’s off. I’m just passing information on as a fan to other fans. Don’t believe me? That’s absolutely fine. The tour is off either way so it really makes no difference. It gives me absolutely no pleasure to spread misinformation.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Date: February 2, 2025 22:37

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Matt1984
I’m not revealing my source as I would hate to get anyone in trouble, but it is reliable. The complications with travel/venues is all bs. Mick didn’t sign his contract and that is the reason it’s off. I’m just passing information on as a fan to other fans. Don’t believe me? That’s absolutely fine. The tour is off either way so it really makes no difference. It gives me absolutely no pleasure to spread misinformation.
I have heard this as well. Did not make sense to me, but just saying i heard this as well.

Could be related to the venues/difficulties and money as well. Did
Not hear anything about a rationale



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Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: NashvilleBlues ()
Date: February 2, 2025 22:57

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daspyknows
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NashvilleBlues
Wonder if a 7 city, 14 date fall tour might work. Play Wednesdays and Saturdays in each city. Maybe have 3 European cities and 4 North American cities (1 Canada, 1 Mexico, 2 US).

Transportation costs and border crossings will kill that one if finances put the kibosh on this tour.

For me its as long as its not health related it sucks but if the numbers don't work, they don't work. Keeping a touring operation on the road for 2 shows a week is very expensive.

Makes sense. Just trying to figure how to minimize cost and travel while maximizing profit. How about a 7-9 city 14–18 date fall tour in North America (US, Canada, Mexico)? Maybe border crossings will be an issue there, too. I’m sure there are people way more knowledgeable than I trying to figure this out, if there is something to figure out.

With 2 nights in each city, repeat fans could come and the band would mix up the set list like they already do in repeat cities. It’d be super cool if they could highlight a different album each night. Sticky Fingers one night and Exile the next show. Let it Bleed then Beggars Banquet…



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Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Stoneage ()
Date: February 2, 2025 22:58

Postponing a tour one year is really taking a risk. Make it an autumn tour then. You can still do stadiums in continental Europe in late summer and autumn. And you can mix stadiums with arenas too.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: keefriffhards ()
Date: February 2, 2025 23:09

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Matt1984
I’m not revealing my source as I would hate to get anyone in trouble, but it is reliable. The complications with travel/venues is all bs. Mick didn’t sign his contract and that is the reason it’s off. I’m just passing information on as a fan to other fans. Don’t believe me? That’s absolutely fine. The tour is off either way so it really makes no difference. It gives me absolutely no pleasure to spread misinformation.

Thank you for confirming Matt.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: RG ()
Date: February 2, 2025 23:18

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keefriffhards
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Matt1984
I’m not revealing my source as I would hate to get anyone in trouble, but it is reliable. The complications with travel/venues is all bs. Mick didn’t sign his contract and that is the reason it’s off. I’m just passing information on as a fan to other fans. Don’t believe me? That’s absolutely fine. The tour is off either way so it really makes no difference. It gives me absolutely no pleasure to spread misinformation.

Thank you for confirming Matt.

If it’s true, then why didn’t Mick sign the contract? Maybe it’s precisely because there are too few or too many rest days between the remaining available venues? Both can be true, right?

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: February 2, 2025 23:24

I really doubt Mick just woke up and said "nah, @#$%& it, I don't feel like it", if the claim is true that he was the one who pulled out then presumably he has some kind of motivation.

Pure speculation, but maybe he just doesn't feel well, keefriffhards keeps coming back to physical injuries but it could just as well be stress.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Glimmerest ()
Date: February 2, 2025 23:27

Stress in combination with small profit and unideal schedule makes sense

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: babyblue ()
Date: February 2, 2025 23:45

I really don’t think they are doing anything this year so lots time to make follow up lp.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: spikenyc ()
Date: February 3, 2025 01:57

Im listening to "Time Waits for No One" right now! spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Jeter1984 ()
Date: February 3, 2025 01:58

There are other places to play if not Europe. I am optomistic and willo go where they go. An excuse to see the world.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: February 3, 2025 07:16

I find it very odd Mick didn’t sign.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: stargroover ()
Date: February 3, 2025 08:26

I think it’s pretty obvious that final signatures were not put on the tour contract,otherwise they would be obliged to play.Hardly a scoop based on inside information.
It appears logistics were the factor that this summer tour never happened.Let’s hope they use that time window to finish off their next Grammy winning album with Andrew Watt at the helm.And hopefully we get a tour sometime in the fall.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Spud ()
Date: February 3, 2025 09:41

Well that's one potential silver lining isn't it ?

Come on Mick, Keith, Ronnie...

If you're not going to be "treading the boards" this summer...

Get your skinny little arses back in that studio, and let's be having that follow up to HD grinning smiley

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: gotdablouse ()
Date: February 3, 2025 09:54

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Glimmerest
I really doubt Mick just woke up and said "nah, @#$%& it, I don't feel like it", if the claim is true that he was the one who pulled out then presumably he has some kind of motivation.

Pure speculation, but maybe he just doesn't feel well, keefriffhards keeps coming back to physical injuries but it could just as well be stress.

Yes, he would have weighed the PROs and CONs and apparently it fell on the wrong side...even if I still fear it was about the numbers not looking great it's hard to argue that his judgement can't be trusted, who on earth has more experience with rock tours than him !

Now the good news is that with the Grammy he's likely going to be highly motivated to finish off the "75%" (or "2/3" depending on which interview he gave) finished follow-up to HD. It would have been a bit "silly" to "tour" HD in Europe nearly 2 years after it was released. Now they can tour 2 albums, like at the time of TY !

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Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: caschimann ()
Date: February 3, 2025 10:06

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Koen
I find it very odd Mick didn’t sign.

So do you?

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: windmelody ()
Date: February 3, 2025 10:23

If somebody in the band, especially the leading man Mick Jagger, does not feel in shape to tour, it is a sensible and smart choice not to go on the road. It is not an easy job to rock a stadium anyhow, and if you are nearly 82 years old things do not become easier.

Re: The rumoured Rolling Stones Tour in Europe this summer of 2025 is off
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: February 3, 2025 10:43

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caschimann
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Koen
I find it very odd Mick didn’t sign.

So do you?

Yes, and do you?

I hope he is ok.

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