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Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:18

Here you have it from DCI Marshall himself: "Six or so associates". That's more than stated in the official version,


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:22

Police statement regarding Joan and Brian



Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:29

Builder Eddie Loake with Tom and Frank lurking in the doorway.


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:31

Police proof that Suki left before Brian died.


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:32

Janet and Tom being interviewed by Stephen Woolley in 1998.

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Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:33

Builders Maurice Tucker and John Betsworth at the funeral

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:35

Home office taking a clear interest in Brian's death...


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:37

Brian's mum and dad visiting the grave in 1974.


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:39

Police statement Joanne Laidlaw, Brian and Keith's dog care taker.


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 15:48

Louisa and Lewis in 1977.


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 16:02

Brian as a lad with his nephew


Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 16:04

Brian's young relatives before the funeral.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 16:05

Only evidence of Stu attending the funeral.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 16:06

London Scotland Yard commander Wallace Virgo who stopped the Sussex Police from further investigating. in the mid seventies convicted for corruption.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 16:09

The morning after the night before. Frank returns to Cotchford.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 16:49

Page 1 from a letter one of the builders sent to Frank Thorogood's daughter Jan after the Crime Watch episode in 1994. I will not publish the rest because it will upset Mathijs.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: January 8, 2022 17:23

Quote
paulspendel
Joan Fitzsimons before the attack and after the attack with her dad Sidney. A rock was smashed into her face cutting the eye nerves, making her blind.



Paul - Who is this person?

ZIYADEH, Muhajer Yusef Musa: attempted murder of Priscilla Margaret Joan FITZSIMONS on 26 July 1969 in Earnley, West Sussex. Convicted of malicious wounding


Her Burial record:

Name: Priscilla Margaret Joan Fitzsimons
Age: 62
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: 21 May 1940
Death Date: Jul 2002
Burial Date: 11 Jul 2002
Burial Place: Bognor Regis, West Sussex, England
Grave Number: 1287
Interment Number: 1403



Also strange she died on 3 July (is this correct??) - Brian died late on the 2nd...



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Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 17:30

I will tell about him later.
Yes, she died on July 3, just like Keylock and Klein. Weird.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: Bliss ()
Date: January 8, 2022 19:02

None of those files open for me, Paul S.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: paulspendel ()
Date: January 8, 2022 19:19

I will post about the files later, promise.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: georgie48 ()
Date: January 8, 2022 21:17

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paulspendel
Page 1 from a letter one of the builders sent to Frank Thorogood's daughter Jan after the Crime Watch episode in 1994. I will not publish the rest because it will upset Mathijs.

That sounds totally different from what Charlie Watts clearly remembered of the three visiting Brian. I don't think I lost my skills of maths ... Mick, Keith and Charlie makes ... 3.

By the way, the photo of Thorogood "returning to Cotchford the morning after ..." is interesting, because the BBC interview of him and Anna Wohlin (on July 4 on the Dutch TV Journaal) was NOT in a village, but it must have been in London, remembering the street image surrounding them. I find it difficult to believe that in those days the BBC made the interview available to the Dutch TV immediately on the 4th, so my guess is that they were interviewed on the 3rd of July during daylight. Even more so, because Anna Wohlin was clearly upset. Off course I don't know the woman, but another day gone (so the 4th of July) emotions tend to settle somewhat. Another option is that she was scared to death in the présence of Frank Thorogood ...

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: Mariuana ()
Date: January 8, 2022 23:31

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georgie48
Quote
paulspendel
Page 1 from a letter one of the builders sent to Frank Thorogood's daughter Jan after the Crime Watch episode in 1994. I will not publish the rest because it will upset Mathijs.

That sounds totally different from what Charlie Watts clearly remembered of the three visiting Brian. I don't think I lost my skills of maths ... Mick, Keith and Charlie makes ... 3.

..

I think the story is, according to this letter, they (Mick and Keith) were visiting Brian again the day before he died. Not that time when three of them came and informed him he was fired.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Date: January 8, 2022 23:46

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paulspendel
Page 1 from a letter one of the builders sent to Frank Thorogood's daughter Jan after the Crime Watch episode in 1994. I will not publish the rest because it will upset Mathijs.

Damn, is he a dangerous suspect? Kindergarten from you both.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: January 8, 2022 23:48

Quote
Mathijs

Kennedy was shot dead by a lone wolf, Brian drowned after taking too many drugs.

Mathijs

I have no opinion on Brian's death but you really picked a poor example to make your point.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: 2000 LYFH ()
Date: January 9, 2022 00:59

The statement that Janet Lawson gave to police/detectives on July 3 approximately 10-18 hours after Brian died. She states that Brian came to the garage flat at about 10:30 PM and invited Frank and herself back to the house for drinks. So by going by that time, it would seem they probably did not enter the pool until close to 11:30PM and that they were both in the water for maybe 30 minutes until Frank came into the house looking for a towel (anytime I go to a pool, I usually bring a towel with me). Janet went back to the pool, and then they all had a hard time getting him out of the pool and eventually did CPR on him - so maybe he did pass away about midnight or even on July 3? Is this an accurate statement and are the Ann and Frank statements available?











Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: January 9, 2022 01:00

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terraplane
Quote
Mathijs

Kennedy was shot dead by a lone wolf, Brian drowned after taking too many drugs.

Mathijs

I have no opinion on Brian's death but you really picked a poor example to make your point.

Not in the least. Kennedy was clearly shot by Oswald and none other.

His point is that people make conspiracies over just about any topic, and in some cases grow to ridiculousness to where the majority start believing the fictional account.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: terraplane ()
Date: January 9, 2022 01:57

I understood what his point was. I (and the overwhelming majority of Americans) don't agree with his/your view but I don't want to debate it in a thread about Brian Jones.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: Rockman ()
Date: January 9, 2022 04:30



A distressed Marianne Faithfull walking with friends
after the announcement of the death of Brian Jones of
the Rolling Stones, on Cheyne Walk, Chelsea, 3rd July 1969.




ROCKMAN

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Date: January 9, 2022 05:35

After years of reading all accounts of the details surrounding Brian Jones death, my opinion is that Brian took drugs, mixed them with alcohol, and he drowned himself. Drowning takes only 45 seconds so could be suicide but I think it was an accident. Many have said Brian was distraught after being kicked out of the RS. I'm sure he was in a bad state of mind and needed help.

Re: Rolling Stone: Life And Death Of Brian Jones
Posted by: LeonidP ()
Date: January 9, 2022 07:35

Quote
terraplane
I understood what his point was. I (and the overwhelming majority of Americans) don't agree with his/your view but I don't want to debate it in a thread about Brian Jones.

Understood, but I was commenting as you specifically pointed out that as being a poor example to use for comparison, when in fact it is a pretty good example.

JFK conspiracy theories are all explained, and for the most part debunked/disproven but as you stated, "majority of Americans" continue to believe them. That's only because they hear the same stories and want to believe them, rather than read up on how they don't make sense... a couple nice reads should you care to explore further:

Gerald Posner - Case Closed
Vincent Bugliosi - Reclaiming History- The Assassination Of JFK

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