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1969, Hartfield, Ashdown Forest, Sussex

An aerial view of the farmhouse and pool, where
Ex-Rolling Stones guitarist Brian Jones died
mysteriously while having a midnight swim on 3rd July1969

wow...great shot!

I am curious as to what legal effect or authority did Mick Keith Charlie and Bill have in firing Brian.Since he started the band what if he fired Mick and Keith in 1969, and replaced them with say Jimmy Page and Rod Stewart. I know it sounds ludicrous but could he have done it. And who had the rights to the name Rolling Stones when he was fired

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I am curious as to what legal effect or authority did Mick Keith Charlie and Bill have in firing Brian.Since he started the band what if he fired Mick and Keith in 1969, and replaced them with say Jimmy Page and Rod Stewart. I know it sounds ludicrous but could he have done it. And who had the rights to the name Rolling Stones when he was fired

You're taking a fact and asking a question as if it didn't happen.
He was kicked out and they kept the name.

Anna Wohlin, girlfriend of Brian Jones, and
publicist David Sandison leaving the Londonderry
Hotel for an inquest after Brian Jones death, UK, 3rd July 1969.



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I am curious as to what legal effect or authority did Mick Keith Charlie and Bill have in firing Brian.Since he started the band what if he fired Mick and Keith in 1969, and replaced them with say Jimmy Page and Rod Stewart. I know it sounds ludicrous but could he have done it. And who had the rights to the name Rolling Stones when he was fired

In an equal share situation, if Mick and Keith were the dysfunctional and "out of it" ones, Brian could have convinced Charlie and Bill to fire and replace them - 3 versus 2. But as we all know, it was actually 4 versus 1.

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I read an old story that after Brian left the band, he still could have owned the name "Rolling Stones", was paid pretty much big money but refused to let them use the name. Mick and Keith came up to offer him more but he still would not let them use it because it was his band, he owned the right to it and stuff like this. Keith got angered and pull a knife on him. Then they left and the days after that, Brian was dead.

'I read an old story'....which is utter bullshit.

The band's name was owned by all 5 until Jones was sacked from the band in agreement of a fixed amount of income for as long as the Stones would exist. In 1970 they registered it as a trade mark with the four original members as owners. After Wyman left they rearranged the ownership of Promopub completely so that Jagger, Richards and Watts are directors of the company, owning the rights to all matter Stones.

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I thought Ronnie around 1990 became a full member? Is there a difference between being a full member and a full member/owner?

What happened to Charlie's ownership piece? Stay in his family or are Mick and Keith the only owners now?

I think Ronnie became a full member when Bill left in 1993. They probably didn't want another member to leave and jeopardize the band even further.

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I read an old story that after Brian left the band, he still could have owned the name "Rolling Stones", was paid pretty much big money but refused to let them use the name. Mick and Keith came up to offer him more but he still would not let them use it because it was his band, he owned the right to it and stuff like this. Keith got angered and pull a knife on him. Then they left and the days after that, Brian was dead.

'I read an old story'....which is utter bullshit.

The band's name was owned by all 5 until Jones was sacked from the band in agreement of a fixed amount of income for as long as the Stones would exist. In 1970 they registered it as a trade mark with the four original members as owners. After Wyman left they rearranged the ownership of Promopub completely so that Jagger, Richards and Watts are directors of the company, owning the rights to all matter Stones.

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I thought Ronnie around 1990 became a full member? Is there a difference between being a full member and a full member/owner?

What happened to Charlie's ownership piece? Stay in his family or are Mick and Keith the only owners now?

I think Ronnie became a full member when Bill left in 1993. They probably didn't want another member to leave and jeopardize the band even further.

You all overlook one thing. When the Rolling Stones quit from DECCA/London Records and Alan Klein, they started their own company, Rolling Stones Records. So instead of "just being a band with a record contract and a manager (which whom "kicked out" in 1967 and replaced by AK, whom they also "kicked out"), the band was now a company ... with four directors (Mick Taylor was on a contract deal). This makes a hell of a difference! Charlie's ownership stays in his family, unless the latter decide differently.

I'm a GHOST living in a ghost town

Well I read it on the keno's website. I never believed that story. That sounded like an utter BS for me.

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Anna Wohlin, girlfriend of Brian Jones, and
publicist David Sandison leaving the Londonderry
Hotel for an inquest after Brian Jones death, UK, 3rd July 1969.

Wow Rockman, never saw this picture, any other pictures you got I also never saw?

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Wow Rockman, never saw this picture, any other pictures you got I also never saw?

I'll venture a guess he has a lot of pics we never saw - and probably don't want to!

Tom Keylock, Stones gofer, outside Cotchford Farm
at Hartfield, Sussex, talks to a photographer. 3 July 1969



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Bravo, Rockman.

Tom Keylock and Janet Lawson Jacky Shaw - Cotchford Farm July 3, 1969



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Tom Keylock, chauffeur and 'fixer' for the Rolling Stones,
talking to Janet Lawson Jacky Shaw, at Cotchford Farm in East Sussex, 3rd July 1969.

Earlier that day, Rolling Stones member
Brian Jones had drowned in the farm's swimming pool.



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Godfather worthy.

The woman in the picture with Tom is not Janet Lawson. It’s Jacky Shaw. She came to fetch Anna Wohlin. Jacky’s husband Tony Shaw from Enfield drove three guests away from Cotchford the night before,before The Sussex Police arrived. Tony passed away in 2019, Jacky is still around.

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Brian Jones' girlfriend Anna Wohlin (left) and another woman, possibly Janet Lawson, Jacky Shaw leave Cotchford Farm in East Sussex, 3rd July 1969.



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The tall blonde woman is Anna's friend Linda Lorentz.

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Bohnam's selling exhibition of photography
by David Bailey, London, Britain - 08 Mar 2010


(L to R) Mick Jagger (1964) and The Kray Brothers (1965)



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UH OH !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Always wondered. As the pics of Anna at the inquest show she was like a twig unlike the woman, Linda, at Cotchford.

Jacky Shaw ..........Linda Lorentz .............................. ? ........ leave Cotchford Farm in East Sussex, 3rd July 1969.



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From left to right: Jacky Shaw, a woman not being Anna Wohlin and Janet Lawson, pregnant with Tom’s child.



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From left to right: Jacky Shaw, a woman not being Anna Wohlin and Janet Lawson, pregnant with Tom’s child.

Anna's friends, Linda Lorentz and Terry.

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Warner Brothers discussing Jajouka



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Joan Fitzsimons before the attack and after the attack with her dad Sidney. A rock was smashed into her face cutting the eye nerves, making her blind.





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