"hey ablett... i think he is looking at you"

Exactly! Silly old fart. I expect I'll be shown the blade n all??

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>Yes, Vredenburg comes to mind first. ...<

I thought Keith f*cked up BS at the time, but listening to the boot it seems that in the opening everybody gets a bit confused but once the guitars are in line Mick messes it up entirely by starting to sing the fist verse two bars too early. It takes the rest of the band some time to adjust.

...Exactly!
My first time on this thread - that's the way I remember that 'Vredenburg Gate' too...

["I can hear the Bullfrog calling me..."]



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Let's set the record straight: [www.iorr.org]

...arent't you supposed to be on jury duty??!


["I can hear the Bullfrog calling me..."]

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A thirty year old f**kup from Keith. From about four minutes into the song. Ernie and Ronnie saves him though.




Hampton dec 1981

I must have listened to this show more than any others since I 1st bought the vinyl boot in 82. I never realised that Keith's "freeform" riffage was a mistake .


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While I am sincerely falttered that you hang on my every word and post. I suggest you get a life. Don't worry about what or where I post. LAst time I checked you weren't the board mod and I'll post what I damn well please when I want to until BV says I can't...and yes I think it was stupid to bump a 5 year old thread about @#$%& up's. How about bumping something positive.

you advise someone to "get a life" and yet you advise us to bump a positive thread? what's wrong with this thread? are we hurting keith's feelings by talking smack about him? i think he's a big boy, he can handle it. but can YOU? clearly you cannot. and speaking of contributing something positive to this messageboard, how about you quit taking this place so seriously to the point where you need to criticize threads that are not to your liking by giving thumbs down or saying "boring. we need a tour" or "we've sunk to a new low". if you are so affected by what someone says on THE INTERNET then i advise that YOU should get a life. g'day, sir.

It's called CONTRAST. Without the screw ups, it would get boring with it being "perfect" all the time. Of course, the very horrendous screw ups are a constant source of entertainment and probably overall wincing/cringing.

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A thirty year old f**kup from Keith. From about four minutes into the song. Ernie and Ronnie saves him though.




Hampton dec 1981

I must have listened to this show more than any others since I 1st bought the vinyl boot in 82. I never realised that Keith's "freeform" riffage was a mistake .


sc uk

No mistake from Keith, he's playing brilliantly all the way

What are you thinking about, more exactly, stoneage ?



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Not a bad version of the song overall but Keith really tosses it with his solo:

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No mistake from Keith, he's playing brilliantly all the way

What are you thinking about, more exactly, stoneage ?

2.55-3.15 and 4.45-5.30 for example.

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No mistake from Keith, he's playing brilliantly all the way

What are you thinking about, more exactly, stoneage ?

2.55-3.15 and 4.45-5.30 for example.

Okay, thanks listened through those spots you mentioned several times; and I disagree,

only the 4 sec part 5.02 - 5.06 is somwhat out of line.
Apart from that; a bum note at 3:00 and 3:03......if one were to be critical

So we must be hearing different things I guess

To me,Keith's worst F... Up occured in Lyon,June 2007.
OK,it wasn't a "playing mistake" but honestly , what occured at some 2 meters from me was hard enough to see.

best one that I saw myself, Ottawa 2005. During Sympathy for the Devil, Keith decides to leave the stage for 3-4 minutes. Then Charlie leaves the stage. Thank goodness for their canned drums on that song!

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Now how do you do that ? Making your own post disappear ? Magic ?

And I would still like to have an answer to the above question

The magic of BV's editing...and the inly person I need to get a room with is Sway Stones.

Get a room with me ? Why ? Pourquoi ?
Although I am not sure of what "get a room " means ....

Because I asked you to delete the offensive post of yours concerning French people ?
It was so lame since you know the sympathy I have for "your "people -
and I bet I know much more about your country than you know about mine .

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2.55-3.15

I believe that those "creative" notes you're thinking about are played by Ronnie.

I have to disagree about these SFTD solos from Voodoo Lounge. Keith is simply playing parts of the solos in the major scale, which might sound odd if you expect solos to be played only in the "blues" scale. However, when you get used to it you'll hear that Keit is doing this scale switch all the time deliberately. I'd say that it is part of his signature sound.

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I have to disagree about these SFTD solos from Voodoo Lounge. Keith is simply playing parts of the solos in the major scale, which might sound odd if you expect solos to be played only in the "blues" scale. However, when you get used to it you'll hear that Keit is doing this scale switch all the time deliberately. I'd say that it is part of his signature sound.

That one from Miami Keith goes into E flat (or D sharp, depending on your preference), which is a different key. Don't know about any others from that tour! He does seem to play what I guess could be considered a sort of blues minor, for lack of a better understanding of whatever one would call it, pentatonic, all that speak, since it revolves around what would make the minor note in the E chord for an E minor. Which is better than an E major solo wise as far as the song goes, which is E, D, A and B major (is there a seventh in that B?) for the chords. It's not supposed to be pretty, the solo, which is what a E major would be. Like how the solo in Dead Flowers is D major floating in the A and G major, which is more consistent with country songs than blues/rock songs - not always, of course.

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I have to disagree about these SFTD solos from Voodoo Lounge. Keith is simply playing parts of the solos in the major scale, which might sound odd if you expect solos to be played only in the "blues" scale. However, when you get used to it you'll hear that Keit is doing this scale switch all the time deliberately. I'd say that it is part of his signature sound.

That one from Miami Keith goes into E flat (or D sharp, depending on your preference), which is a different key. Don't know about any others from that tour! He does seem to play what I guess could be considered a sort of blues minor, for lack of a better understanding of whatever one would call it, pentatonic, all that speak, since it revolves around what would make the minor note in the E chord for an E minor. Which is better than an E major solo wise as far as the song goes, which is E, D, A and B major (is there a seventh in that B?) for the chords. It's not supposed to be pretty, the solo, which is what a E major would be. Like how the solo in Dead Flowers is D major floating in the A and G major, which is more consistent with country songs than blues/rock songs - not always, of course.

No, it's E major and E minor all the way. You can hear the same scale switch in this solo (and countless others) where he starts in major and moves the minor:

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You have no idea how much I detest Mick's vocal delivery on that.

What goes throught his head?

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You have no idea how much I detest Mick's vocal delivery on that.

What goes throught his head?

I think it's pretty good myself. Certainly far better than the way he was barking it out in 1981 / 1982.

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I think it's pretty good myself. Certainly far better than the way he was barking it out in 1981 / 1982.

It's mangled.

I hate it.

If I had a gun I would shoot that vocal.

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You have no idea how much I detest Mick's vocal delivery on that.

What goes throught his head?

I think it's pretty good myself. Certainly far better than the way he was barking it out in 1981 / 1982.

I agree, in 1998 he sang lightyears better than in 1981/82.

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You have no idea how much I detest Mick's vocal delivery on that.

What goes throught his head?

I think it's pretty good myself. Certainly far better than the way he was barking it out in 1981 / 1982.

He was actually singing in '98. The band actually played better too. At least on Satisfaction.

[www.reverbnation.com]

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I think it's pretty good myself. Certainly far better than the way he was barking it out in 1981 / 1982.

It's mangled.

I hate it.

If I had a gun I would shoot that vocal.

I feel the same. He sounds like he's on The Lyrics Board (så ska det låta)

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You have no idea how much I detest Mick's vocal delivery on that.

What goes throught his head?

I think it's pretty good myself. Certainly far better than the way he was barking it out in 1981 / 1982.

He was actually singing in '98. The band actually played better too. At least on Satisfaction.

No he's not. He's "singing".

........................ Keith Richards 1992 - Guitar & Bass magazine



ROCKMAN

Amazing quote by Keith. Thank you Rockman.

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I feel the same. He sounds like he's on The Lyrics Board (så ska det låta)

I could start a thread called "Mick's Mangling".

There are so many live clips I can't watch because Mick decides he doesn't want to sing it straight anymore because he's bored or something.

1975/76 is a given for badness.

There's this from 1981





What the hell is he doing "Ti-yi-yime..." "Yow come running back.."

I just find it painful compared with the great way he used to sing them.

There are lots of examples of similar pointless vocal mangling.

Give me a Keith cock up anyday to this.

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I feel the same. He sounds like he's on The Lyrics Board (så ska det låta)

I could start a thread called "Mick's Mangling".

There are so many live clips I can't watch because Mick decides he doesn't want to sing it straight anymore because he's bored or something.

1975/76 is a given for badness.

There's this from 1981





What the hell is he doing "Ti-yi-yime..." "Yow come running back.."

I just find it painful compared with the great way he used to sing them.

There are lots of examples of similar pointless vocal mangling.

Give me a Keith cock up anyday to this.

Great singing here, imo. If we should criticize Mick for all his different accents, we should stop listening to him

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To me,Keith's worst F... Up occured in Lyon,June 2007.
OK,it wasn't a "playing mistake" but honestly , what occured at some 2 meters from me was hard enough to see.

What did he do?

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I feel the same. He sounds like he's on The Lyrics Board (så ska det låta)

I could start a thread called "Mick's Mangling".

There are so many live clips I can't watch because Mick decides he doesn't want to sing it straight anymore because he's bored or something.

1975/76 is a given for badness.

There's this from 1981





What the hell is he doing "Ti-yi-yime..." "Yow come running back.."

I just find it painful compared with the great way he used to sing them.

There are lots of examples of similar pointless vocal mangling.

Give me a Keith cock up anyday to this.

Great singing here, imo. If we should criticize Mick for all his different accents, we should stop listening to him

I have mixed opinions here. While the ultimate Jagger is the voice he had onstage up until circa 1971 (&, at a push, up until 1973); but I also much prefer his singing since 1989 (or 1988 if you include his solo tours) than what he was doing 1975 - 1982. Of course, there are some exceptions, with As Tears Go By on SAL being particularly notable.

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I have mixed opinions here. While the ultimate Jagger is the voice he had onstage up until circa 1971 (&, at a push, up until 1973); but I also much prefer his singing since 1989 (or 1988 if you include his solo tours) than what he was doing 1975 - 1982. Of course, there are some exceptions, with As Tears Go By on SAL being particularly notable.

How difficult would it be for him to sing "You" instead of "Yow" (sounding like a demented Brummie?)

It's horrible to my ears and he never used to do it.

He ruined his Grammy appearance by continually singing "I need Yow.. Yow.. Yow.."

That isn't the only word he mangles.

He never used to.

He started using a strange over emotive mangled diction in the 80's.

Lord knows why.

I stopped believing in him as a stage performer when he obviously took singing and dancing lessons and started striding back and forth over the over-large stage "pulling shapes" when all that corporate rock started.

Mick Jagger is a wonderful bunch of guys, I wish some of the early 70's ones would make an appearance.



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