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Mick knows there is no money in releasing a new studio album that will get Negative press and would hamper Live concert ticket sales on the Never Ending No Filter Tour
Why would releasing a new album for $20 hamper Live concert ticket sales? Ridiculous
They could give a copy of the album away to people who purchase a ticket to one of their shows.
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Mick knows there is no money in releasing a new studio album that will get Negative press and would hamper Live concert ticket sales on the Never Ending No Filter Tour
Why would releasing a new album for $20 hamper Live concert ticket sales? Ridiculous
They could give a copy of the album away to people who purchase a ticket to one of their shows.
Why SHOULD they?
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Hairball
Unfortunately they only played two (or three) tunes from B&L, and never more than one at the same show. A shame as the tunes were far superior live in the context of a Stones show, while listening to the album itself was just an average experience.
Would have been nice to have some club shows where they played B&L from start to finish (along with some of the classics), but I realize that's an unrealistic thought in these latter days of massive nostalgia filled stadium tours.
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Stones fans are the toughest to please...
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They certainly are. While they are loved .. their true die-hards can be really
tough on them.
Hence .. (and I am paraphrasing below):
A new album is something I would 'not' buy (>>?). I had to read this twice in thinking .. Ummmmm wait a minute here ... did he say he ..'wouldn't'.. consider buying it??
Their US album sales went this way since Voodoo Lounge:
VL: 2.3 million
B2B: 1.3 m
ABB: 600k
B&L: 350k
Where is the news with the lack of interest in their new material?
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Unfortunately they only played two (or three) tunes from B&L, and never more than one at the same show. A shame as the tunes were far superior live in the context of a Stones show, while listening to the album itself was just an average experience.
Would have been nice to have some club shows where they played B&L from start to finish (along with some of the classics), but I realize that's an unrealistic thought in these latter days of massive nostalgia filled stadium tours.
They played two BL-tracks the first tour leg. For the next leg they went down to one. Then they did the acoustic set instead.
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DandelionPowderman
Stones fans are the toughest to please...
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They certainly are. While they are loved .. their true die-hards can be really
tough on them.
Hence .. (and I am paraphrasing below):
A new album is something I would 'not' buy (>>?). I had to read this twice in thinking .. Ummmmm wait a minute here ... did he say he ..'wouldn't'.. consider buying it??
Their US album sales went this way since Voodoo Lounge:
VL: 2.3 million
B2B: 1.3 m
ABB: 600k
B&L: 350k
Where is the news with the lack of interest in their new material?
And how do they do compared with the general decline in album sales for ALL artists/bands?
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DandelionPowderman
Stones fans are the toughest to please...
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They certainly are. While they are loved .. their true die-hards can be really
tough on them.
Hence .. (and I am paraphrasing below):
A new album is something I would 'not' buy (>>?). I had to read this twice in thinking .. Ummmmm wait a minute here ... did he say he ..'wouldn't'.. consider buying it??
Their US album sales went this way since Voodoo Lounge:
VL: 2.3 million
B2B: 1.3 m
ABB: 600k
B&L: 350k
Where is the news with the lack of interest in their new material?
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Hairball
I would never hope for a tour promoting an album as in the old days. One new tune per show, maybe alternating between two every other show, but never three. As for Europe where they're seemingly "a bit more daring", one only has to look at the recent No Filter legs to see that the setlists were consistently similar give or take a tune here and there. The ABB and Licks tour also had the same similarities. Not sure how far back you have to go to find this "daring" Rolling Stones you speak of...maybe all the way back to '63?
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I would never hope for a tour promoting an album as in the old days. One new tune per show, maybe alternating between two every other show, but never three. As for Europe where they're seemingly "a bit more daring", one only has to look at the recent No Filter legs to see that the setlists were consistently similar give or take a tune here and there. The ABB and Licks tour also had the same similarities. Not sure how far back you have to go to find this "daring" Rolling Stones you speak of...maybe all the way back to '63?
I was thinking of the Vienna 2006 concert where they played "Oh No Not You Again", "Rain Fall Down", "Streets Of Love", "This Place Is Empty" and "Rough Justice" from ABB, which is possibly a latter-day record (five new songs!). Not sure, though, how to interprete this. Either they have a special love for Vienna and it was for that reason that they gave us 5 new songs, or they thought the folks here don't care anyway ...
But anyways, on that tour (Europe 2006) there were at least three ABB songs in the normal set list and the occasional fourth one in Keith's set. Still not much but better than nothing. I don't think either that one could expect much more now with a new album to back up. Too lazy to get back to the US dates of the ABB tour to check the setlists there ...
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Oh I'm sure this new album, whenever it comes out, will have a huge amount of pomp and circumstance associated with it. Certainly a making of type documentary on Netflix which would be cool.......
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I would never hope for a tour promoting an album as in the old days. One new tune per show, maybe alternating between two every other show, but never three. As for Europe where they're seemingly "a bit more daring", one only has to look at the recent No Filter legs to see that the setlists were consistently similar give or take a tune here and there. The ABB and Licks tour also had the same similarities. Not sure how far back you have to go to find this "daring" Rolling Stones you speak of...maybe all the way back to '63?
I was thinking of the Vienna 2006 concert where they played "Oh No Not You Again", "Rain Fall Down", "Streets Of Love", "This Place Is Empty" and "Rough Justice" from ABB, which is possibly a latter-day record (five new songs!). Not sure, though, how to interprete this. Either they have a special love for Vienna and it was for that reason that they gave us 5 new songs, or they thought the folks here don't care anyway ...
But anyways, on that tour (Europe 2006) there were at least three ABB songs in the normal set list and the occasional fourth one in Keith's set. Still not much but better than nothing. I don't think either that one could expect much more now with a new album to back up. Too lazy to get back to the US dates of the ABB tour to check the setlists there ...
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Mick knows there is no money in releasing a new studio album that will get Negative press and would hamper Live concert ticket sales on the Never Ending No Filter Tour
Why would releasing a new album for $20 hamper Live concert ticket sales? Ridiculous
They could give a copy of the album away to people who purchase a ticket to one of their shows.
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Mick knows there is no money in releasing a new studio album that will get Negative press and would hamper Live concert ticket sales on the Never Ending No Filter Tour
Why would releasing a new album for $20 hamper Live concert ticket sales? Ridiculous
They could give a copy of the album away to people who purchase a ticket to one of their shows.
That would give be 6 to 10 copies to give away woohoo. I ended up with 17 copies of the last Ben Harper CD and have multiple copies of a few others.
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Just one guy's opinion but I'll take a scaled down Dead Flowers on the B Stage over a song of Blue and Lonesome every time.
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Doxa
There was a time I was proud to be a Rolling Stones fan. Not anymore. Nothing wrong with the the band, but the fans. I've seen enough of polority all over the world. I log out.
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Our loss far more than yours, I suspect. Less aggravation and unnecessary stress for you certainly.
No loss anywhere, bullshit less here or there, no meaning. But just think of what the guys themselves say, like they did last year about "Miss You":
Rock purists at the time were horrified that the Stones had supposedly sold out and “gone disco” — a laughable nonscandal now, considering how many current rock acts (Muse, Beck, Franz Ferdinand, the Killers, and pretty much any band that’s ever released a remix) draw from dance music now. Recalling the backlash, Richards remarked in his dry and delectable drawl: “Purists of any kind really piss me off. Of course, there are some who are gonna think this or that. But that’s their privilege; it’s cool with me. Not everyone’s gonna get it the first time.”
“Yeah, I mean, now it’s ridiculous to even think about,” Jagger marveled. “It’s a bit like Bob Dylan going electric, isn’t it? It’s ridiculous to even think that people made a fuss about it. Now you look back and think, ‘How stupid was that?’ There were a lot of people that were very narrow-minded about it. To me, I wasn’t brought up on rock music so much as blues and soul music, and a lot of that music was dance music. It was specifically made to dance to. You know, I like dancing, so as far as I’m concerned, all sorts of fast songs for me were all made to dance to. So obviously, I’d be very interested in making dance music. And that particular groove was the groove of the moment. You don’t really play the grooves of yesteryear when you make records; you play the grooves of now. And that sort of beat was the thing that was going around at the time. For some people, it was a very big hit, but not everyone liked it.”
Sometimes I feel like the band people like isn't really the one it really is. The Stones are the best rock'n'roll band of the world no doubt, but the secret of their greatness is that that they never been any 'proper' rock band an sich - they are just a bunch of rhythm and blues musicians, inspired by whatever kind of black American music, who just are able to make a noise that makes people make their asses move. They are not a soundtrack for some bloody redneck KKK rally. "You Can't Always Get What You Want", my ass.
If one wants some 'proper' rock music, go ahead and buy the new Who album or something. And try to stay awake. At least remember to hate that odd Jagger guy.
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Oh I'm sure this new album, whenever it comes out, will have a huge amount of pomp and circumstance associated with it. Certainly a making of type documentary on Netflix which would be cool.......
Yes - wall to wall coverage would be interesting to see. The highs and lows, ups and downs, ins and outs, etc. of the never ending and difficult process of making a rock and roll album for a band in their '70's, interspersed with with brief family film footage clips of holidays and vacation time. Keith and Mick doing voice overs during the most intense moments (the Getta Grip setback, etc), while Charlie is shown occasionally looking puzzled and Ronnie doodling colorful song titles happy as can be.
On a semi- serious note, I'm sure it will be a historic occasion where the entire world will breathe a sigh of relief.
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Oh I'm sure this new album, whenever it comes out, will have a huge amount of pomp and circumstance associated with it. Certainly a making of type documentary on Netflix which would be cool.......
Yes - wall to wall coverage would be interesting to see. The highs and lows, ups and downs, ins and outs, etc. of the never ending and difficult process of making a rock and roll album for a band in their '70's, interspersed with with brief family film footage clips of holidays and vacation time. Keith and Mick doing voice overs during the most intense moments (the Getta Grip setback, etc), while Charlie is shown occasionally looking puzzled and Ronnie doodling colorful song titles happy as can be.
On a semi- serious note, I'm sure it will be a historic occasion where the entire world will breathe a sigh of relief.
pls refresh our memories: what, precisely was "the getta grip setback" ... and what, exactly, did it set back?
my memory is:
1) mick had a couple of songs
2) keith didn't dig 'em
3) so mick recorded them with charlie and ron, then
4) released 'em as solo singles, and
5) keith was surprised
did this sequence represent a "setback" because had mick never released the singles we'd have had a stones album by now?
or is this just more of a general editorial comment on what you perceive to be the overall crappiness of the singles in question?
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Oh I'm sure this new album, whenever it comes out, will have a huge amount of pomp and circumstance associated with it. Certainly a making of type documentary on Netflix which would be cool.......
Yes - wall to wall coverage would be interesting to see. The highs and lows, ups and downs, ins and outs, etc. of the never ending and difficult process of making a rock and roll album for a band in their '70's, interspersed with with brief family film footage clips of holidays and vacation time. Keith and Mick doing voice overs during the most intense moments (the Getta Grip setback, etc), while Charlie is shown occasionally looking puzzled and Ronnie doodling colorful song titles happy as can be.
On a semi- serious note, I'm sure it will be a historic occasion where the entire world will breathe a sigh of relief.
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Oh I'm sure this new album, whenever it comes out, will have a huge amount of pomp and circumstance associated with it. Certainly a making of type documentary on Netflix which would be cool.......
Yes - wall to wall coverage would be interesting to see. The highs and lows, ups and downs, ins and outs, etc. of the never ending and difficult process of making a rock and roll album for a band in their '70's, interspersed with with brief family film footage clips of holidays and vacation time. Keith and Mick doing voice overs during the most intense moments (the Getta Grip setback, etc), while Charlie is shown occasionally looking puzzled and Ronnie doodling colorful song titles happy as can be.
On a semi- serious note, I'm sure it will be a historic occasion where the entire world will breathe a sigh of relief.
Why bother responding and then come up with “semi serious” drivel? We all know the machine will hype the Greatest a Rock n’ a Roll band 8n the world
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Stones fans are the toughest to please...
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They certainly are. While they are loved .. their true die-hards can be really
tough on them.
Hence .. (and I am paraphrasing below):
A new album is something I would 'not' buy (>>?). I had to read this twice in thinking .. Ummmmm wait a minute here ... did he say he ..'wouldn't'.. consider buying it??
Their US album sales went this way since Voodoo Lounge:
VL: 2.3 million
B2B: 1.3 m
ABB: 600k
B&L: 350k
Where is the news with the lack of interest in their new material?
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Tonstone
New album ? why would they want to put out new songs that will only get slated 'Not as Good as Exile - Not a Tattoo You or a Sticky Fingers.
Mick knows there is no money in releasing a new studio album that will get Negative press and would hamper Live concert ticket sales on the Never Ending No Filter Tour That's where the money is.Get used to it if they really wanted they could have put something out. Ask yourself why they have not.
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New album ? why would they want to put out new songs that will only get slated 'Not as Good as Exile - Not a Tattoo You or a Sticky Fingers.
Mick knows there is no money in releasing a new studio album that will get Negative press and would hamper Live concert ticket sales on the Never Ending No Filter Tour That's where the money is.Get used to it if they really wanted they could have put something out. Ask yourself why they have not.
They did put something out. It sold remarkably well and won a Grammy...
C'mon Dandy of course it sold well , Well known Blues Tracks by the Stones is a given and I would buy them all day long , My point is would new songs that are not old Blues standards be appealing ? They would last a couple of Plays and be forgotten . Bridges To Babylon & A Bigger Bang spring to mind.Only my opinion.