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doitywoik
Judging from what one can read at times, Jane Rose's job appears to be situated rather in the latter department. Like, making sure Keith doesn't miss his appointments by more than six hours, catches his flights, and packs a spare pair of socks and panties, etc.
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doitywoik
Putting the ablum together like pieces of a puzzle sounds a bit like condensing the 40+ song (not to forget the three dynamite riffs) by making to or three songs (or sketches of songs) into one. Like, this piece here makes a good verse, any piece anywhere that might serve as the chorus (and some snippets for the middle eight)?
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I'm sure that there is a perfectly acceptable slice of the multiverse in which these views holds sway. In my little corner of space-time however:
--BOTH Mick and Keith wanted to release an album of originals
--BOTH agreed to work on and release a blues album once the sessions broke down
--AFTER the release of B&L, there's no evidence to suggest that Keith's preference was to release a 2nd album of blues covers instead of an album of originals
--In 1968, Mick's "King Bee" comment represents the depth of his acknowledgement of the sanctity of those blues masters both he and Keith revere -- why would anyone prefer their version to the original, anyway?
--In their bones, both Mick and Keith know that they have about as much in common musically, spiritually, and culturally with Robert Johnson as Donny Osmond does with Duke Ellington.
In a perfect world, I'd be able to invite you, Gaslight, lem motlow, and hopkins over for dinner.
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Wake me up when a real announcement is made.
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doitywoik
Putting the ablum together like pieces of a puzzle sounds a bit like condensing the 40+ songs (not to forget the three dynamite riffs) by making two or three songs (or sketches of songs) into one. Like, this piece here makes a good verse, any piece anywhere that might serve as the chorus (and some snippets for the middle eight)?
Hopefully this won't become the blueprint for any future bands attempting to make a new album. God forbid if it did - we'd live in silent world with nothing but vague echoes bouncing off of a wall.
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Judging from what one can read at times, Jane Rose's job appears to be situated rather in the latter department. Like, making sure Keith doesn't miss his appointments by more than six hours, catches his flights, and packs a spare pair of socks and panties, etc.
Love her or hate her, Jane Rose is a world class manager which is why her company is based at William Morris. If you want an interview or meeting with Keith, you go through her. She limits access to Keith. She helps shape the public perception of Keith. She has done her job amazingly well where Keith is concerned. It may have made life hell for Mick a good chunk of the time the last few decades, but Jane has been worth every dollar to Keith. She looks out for and serves her client well and has negotiated tremendous deals for him across different media. The fact that Keith makes everything he does look natural and simply a result of hanging out with friends, no airs since he's a man of the people, is all part of the image Jane helps protect and helps him project. Without Jane, Keith would have been lost.
And no, I don't particularly like her, I just respect the job she does.
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wanderingspirit66
In the words of Doxa "I curse Jane Rose what she has done to the Rolling Stones fans" [iorr.org]
In my own words, I curse what she has done to Keith Richards
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If next Tour will start in mid June, they could finish the new album in February/March with some session and mixing
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So, why they've spoken about a "new album" in the last four years?!Why Mick has posted himself playing guitar and singin'new stuff?!That's messed up...
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So, why they've spoken about a "new album" in the last four years?!Why Mick has posted himself playing guitar and singin'new stuff?!That's messed up...
The more I think about it, the likelier I find the scenario that the "new album of original material" was never planned to be finished and released "as quick as possible" like in the old days.
It looks more like they approach the "new album" like they approach touring these days: Devote only a limited period of time each year to work. No more tours longer than roughly 3 months a year. For studio work: 2 or 3 songs every year are enough to have a complete album in a couple of years, probably with their 60th Anniversary in mind right from the start.
But while everybody understands they cut back touring considering their age, it's obviously hard for people to accept that they just don't want to spend weeks or months in a studio to complete a new album anymore. "Take it easy, babe! Monthlong studio sessions? Deadlines? No, forget it! A couple of days here and a couple of days there for studio work each year - well, that's ok! 2 or 3 songs each year are enough and will add up to an album in a couple of years!"
I think that the above scenario is more or less exactly what's actually going on. And I can imagine the band really laughing their asses off when they come here and see fans like us filling 400+ pages with speculations about internal fights & major drifts between the band's songwriters, writer's blocks and whatever...
...while Mick's short video clips seem to look like signals to say "Don't worry people, everything's ok! We're working, but we take our time..."
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wonderboy
What exactly has Jane Rose done to us?
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wonderboy
What exactly has Jane Rose done to us?
Helped create Keith Camps and Mick Camps at a basic level. Encourage far worse behavior in imitation of Keith's worst behavior.
Happily I don't think any of us tried to be a pirate, laughed incessantly when talking to acquaintances and strangers, dangled weird shit that was tied to our hair, snorted a family member's ashes, or grew a really sickly-looking mustache that appeared to be a caterpillar that died a few weeks ago.
However, the rest of it really has been adopted as regular behavior. Blame Darwin for pointing out we're all just a bunch of imitative chimps.
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wonderboy
What exactly has Jane Rose done to us?
Helped create Keith Camps and Mick Camps at a basic level. Encourage far worse behavior in imitation of Keith's worst behavior.
Happily I don't think any of us tried to be a pirate, laughed incessantly when talking to acquaintances and strangers, dangled weird shit that was tied to our hair, snorted a family member's ashes, or grew a really sickly-looking mustache that appeared to be a caterpillar that died a few weeks ago.
However, the rest of it really has been adopted as regular behavior. Blame Darwin for pointing out we're all just a bunch of imitative chimps.
I'm guessing she a) kept him from being steamrolled by Mick, b) helped him keep his passport current, and c) set up those interesting side things he's did -- the Chuck Berry movie, the solo records, even just showing up every now and then to play live with people like Willie Nelson. In short, kept him alive, because 'Keef' gives Keith something to live for.
I actually think that in our current state of woke political correctness that Keith's general weirdness and 'do I look like a give a @#$%&' attitude is becoming endearing again.