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Producer Don Was says next Rolling Stones album's in "a pretty early stage";
[abcnewsradioonline.com]
after some two years of work… how many of us will still be alive when it will finally be released?
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Producer Don Was says next Rolling Stones album's in "a pretty early stage";
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Producer Don Was says next Rolling Stones album's in "a pretty early stage";
[abcnewsradioonline.com]
after some two years of work… how many of us will still be alive when it will finally be released?
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Producer Don Was says next Rolling Stones album's in "a pretty early stage";
[abcnewsradioonline.com]
after some two years of work… how many of us will still be alive when it will finally be released?
well, it's not two years of work. It's in a pretty early stage, meaning they have a few songs written, as he said, and that's it. It's two years of talking about it, hardly any work.
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Rocky Dijon
The "recent" quotes from Don are nearly a year old when BLUE AND LONESOME had only been out for a couple months. ABC Radio is recycling comments to have a post-Grammy story. This isn't a state of the union address from Don in 2018.
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Bashlets
There is no money in recording music. Sales are crap.
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It's obvious. There is no money in recording music. Sales are crap. If the stones could make 10 million on an album they would record all the time. It's simple economics. Making a new album probably loses them money. It's not like it was 20 yrs ago when royalties were high and you were guaranteed at least 4 to 5 million worldwide sales. Yes, they need to do it for artistic purposes but money wise it's a loser. Blue and Lonesome was recorded quick and sold well. To fumble hours on end in a studio writing new stuff and jamming it out takes a lot more time than B&L. That's why concerts are the way for all artists to make money and that's why tickets for even the crap artists ain't cheap any more
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It's obvious. There is no money in recording music. Sales are crap. If the stones could make 10 million on an album they would record all the time.
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It's obvious. There is no money in recording music. Sales are crap. If the stones could make 10 million on an album they would record all the time.
Wasn't there something about 2 million quid for the album, a couple of pages up in this thread? 500.000 per Stone seems still worthwhile to me.
And just Keith's one dynamite riff might generate more in royalties than (most) people like us earn in a very long while.
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It's obvious. There is no money in recording music. Sales are crap. If the stones could make 10 million on an album they would record all the time. It's simple economics. Making a new album probably loses them money. It's not like it was 20 yrs ago when royalties were high and you were guaranteed at least 4 to 5 million worldwide sales. Yes, they need to do it for artistic purposes but money wise it's a loser. Blue and Lonesome was recorded quick and sold well. To fumble hours on end in a studio writing new stuff and jamming it out takes a lot more time than B&L. That's why concerts are the way for all artists to make money and that's why tickets for even the crap artists ain't cheap any more
Well, if your name is ADELE or ED SHEERHAN there certainly still is money to be made from making records.
And if you are a musician like Neil Young or Van Morrison you put out 'product' because that's what you do....sales figures and profit margins are not the be all and end all.
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Rocky Dijon
The "recent" quotes from Don are nearly a year old when BLUE AND LONESOME had only been out for a couple months. ABC Radio is recycling comments to have a post-Grammy story. This isn't a state of the union address from Don in 2018.
you mean they're recycling comments because there is nothing new to report? It doesn't seem that much has changed.
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Producer Don Was says next Rolling Stones album's in "a pretty early stage";
[abcnewsradioonline.com]
after some two years of work… how many of us will still be alive when it will finally be released?
One. Keith, probably.
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Rocky Dijon
The "recent" quotes from Don are nearly a year old when BLUE AND LONESOME had only been out for a couple months. ABC Radio is recycling comments to have a post-Grammy story. This isn't a state of the union address from Don in 2018.
you mean they're recycling comments because there is nothing new to report? It doesn't seem that much has changed.
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The alternative would be fans not looking forward to the release and refusing to post until the album was released. Hardly what a message board is expected. I'm never sure why fans who are irritated by this thread continue to read it. Any real news will be on the News page.
As for the inevitable results of their part-time efforts, while I hardly expect a classic for the ages (nor do I think of BLUE AND LONESOME as a phenomenal return to their roots - it's nice, some tracks are better than others); what I do anticipate is an album of originals that sounds pretty impressive for creators who turn 75 this year. I'm hoping the long gestation is better than rushing through the motions. I rather expect we'll be wondering whether it's all "new new" or if some of it is tweaked outtakes from past decades or, if any of the tracks are familiar to collectors, whether they lost the track's magic in putting the finishing touches to it. I'll be pleased if I like several of the songs enough to continue playing them a few months later. Otherwise, it's just another late period or final testament by elder statesmen.
As for the timing, we've known they planned the UK dates since last year. Apart from Mick mentioning he would like to play India again, there's been no plans discussed beyond this year. Perhaps they're thinking of calling it a day after this tour. Maybe the album will be a Christmas release and promoted as The Last Time. The same way artists keep their last product back until something spurs sales. A bit like the scene in S.O.B. (1981) when the producer's dying words are that his death will add a few more million to the gross. Showmen know the value of the final curtain. Who knows what is planned at this point. It seems plausible because of their age, but they could have more recordings yet to come. As much as we complain about it being the first new album since 2005, we've had an album's worth of material between EXILE and SOME GIRLS reissues, the BOOGIE FOR STU contribution, and the new tracks on GRRR as well as a blues album. Does the fact the tracks were spread out on releases somehow not count as two albums between A BIGGER BANG and now? What about Keith's album or Mick's solo work from "Charmed Life" to SUPERHEAVY to last year's singles? They're not quite as unproductive as some of us pretend. You might not like the results, but that's something else altogether.
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As much as we complain about it being the first new album since 2005, we've had an album's worth of material between EXILE and SOME GIRLS reissues, the BOOGIE FOR STU contribution, and the new tracks on GRRR as well as a blues album. Does the fact the tracks were spread out on releases somehow not count as two albums between A BIGGER BANG and now? What about Keith's album or Mick's solo work from "Charmed Life" to SUPERHEAVY to last year's singles? They're not quite as unproductive as some of us pretend. You might not like the results, but that's something else altogether.
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The alternative would be fans not looking forward to the release and refusing to post until the album was released. Hardly what a message board is expected.
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I'm never sure why fans who are irritated by this thread continue to read it.
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The "recent" quotes from Don are nearly a year old when BLUE AND LONESOME had only been out for a couple months. ABC Radio is recycling comments to have a post-Grammy story. This isn't a state of the union address from Don in 2018.
you mean they're recycling comments because there is nothing new to report? It doesn't seem that much has changed.
Like this thread.
People have put in more hours since 2016 posting in this thread than the Stones themselves have put in recording the alleged "new album".
But regarding the Don Was quotes from that new/old interview, B&L happened the way it did because it was spontaneous, focused.
This new album, they approach more like a part-time job. The results will reflect the lack of focus, spontaneity, energy that went into the sessions for B&L and the best of their past releases. It will be an anthology of effort straining toward completion; it will feel like something they've been unsure of for years on end.
It's clear that after nearly a decade and a half of cruising on auto pilot playing the same chord structures to the same songs to the same fans, that when it comes to creating new music they're just not certain of how they feel they should express themselves.
This is perhaps the consequence of playing the same show for so many years: that a fresh new musical direction is a creative challenge they are no longer up for.
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Rocky Dijon
As much as we complain about it being the first new album since 2005, we've had an album's worth of material between EXILE and SOME GIRLS reissues, the BOOGIE FOR STU contribution, and the new tracks on GRRR as well as a blues album. Does the fact the tracks were spread out on releases somehow not count as two albums between A BIGGER BANG and now? What about Keith's album or Mick's solo work from "Charmed Life" to SUPERHEAVY to last year's singles? They're not quite as unproductive as some of us pretend. You might not like the results, but that's something else altogether.
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Rocky Dijon
The "recent" quotes from Don are nearly a year old when BLUE AND LONESOME had only been out for a couple months. ABC Radio is recycling comments to have a post-Grammy story. This isn't a state of the union address from Don in 2018.
you mean they're recycling comments because there is nothing new to report? It doesn't seem that much has changed.
Like this thread.
People have put in more hours since 2016 posting in this thread than the Stones themselves have put in recording the alleged "new album".
But regarding the Don Was quotes from that new/old interview, B&L happened the way it did because it was spontaneous, focused.
This new album, they approach more like a part-time job. The results will reflect the lack of focus, spontaneity, energy that went into the sessions for B&L and the best of their past releases. It will be an anthology of effort straining toward completion; it will feel like something they've been unsure of for years on end.
It's clear that after nearly a decade and a half of cruising on auto pilot playing the same chord structures to the same songs to the same fans, that when it comes to creating new music they're just not certain of how they feel they should express themselves.
This is perhaps the consequence of playing the same show for so many years: that a fresh new musical direction is a creative challenge they are no longer up for.
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stonehearted
I was commenting on how the Stones are approaching the "new" album in such a piecemeal fashion, which is completely different from how they've done it in the past, that is, as a complete, focused, short-term project. Hence the "part-time job" comment.