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whitem8
Were is that quoted from? And could be one source...I am still not convinced. There could have been a full-fledged mono mix made. And if there wasn't if this team for this release had access to the original source tapes they could have made a mono new mono mix.
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jlowe
I love the Steve Hoffman site....in small doses.
I can't think of an equivalent forum in the UK? Maybe we're not as obsessive, that's all.
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hj3009
Stray Cats (new compilation)
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Ragnbert
Who need Stones in Mono? That's the way they always been heard. What i want is Stones in Stereo.For the CD edition they could have put both stereo and mono
mixes on the same disc, exept for Aftermath that could have been a double.
Matt
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whitem8
well I for one am very happy to have this coming. I was listening to their first four albums and it says on the cover, "processed to Stereo..." So these done even seem to be true stereo, but a sloppy afterthought. The Mon will/has much more punch with the early stuff. More guitar attack up and center. and a deeper bass sound. The superdeluxe site describes the process using the original tapes and converting to 24 bit for cutting at Abbey Road studios, so very similar to the recent Exile release, which is the definitive mix and sound! So I am optimistic this will sound pretty good. Well as good as the early ones can (due to their early stuff being very sloppily produced by novices).
Is this really true? So all my old records are actually mono and there is no difference between Mono and Stereo for the european decca recordings?Quote
Ragnbert
In Europe they weren't processed to stereo, only "true" mono so I guess there is nothing new to our ears. Also I don't think we will ever see a true stereo box. Maybe we can hope for a a compilation of the stereo mixes we know exists but never officially released.
Matt
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Blueranger
Bill Levenson, the original mastering engineer for the mono and stereo version of Beggars Banquet, has stated openly that he got specific instructions to use a dedicated mono mix for "Sympathy For The Devil", which was put on at the end of the mastertape of the stereo mix. He was asked to fold down the rest of the songs from stereo into mono.
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Deltics
From ABKCO's official Facebook page:
“Time is on My Side” was the first original song recorded by The Rolling Stones to reach the Billboard Hot 100 top 10".
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Irix
"The Last Time" was the Band's first Single written by Mick Jagger & Keith Richards (US-Release: March 13, 1965) and peaked at #9 on the US-Billboard Hot 100 (Wikipedia).
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lukpac
In the US, Tell Me beat it by 9 months. And Heart of Stone beat it by 3.
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Irix
It seems that ABKCO have noticed their error and have meanwhile removed the questionable entry from their Facebook page.
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bitusa2012
We HAVE the first, what?,4 of these albums in mono already don't we? That's how they were initially released. So we're being asked to pay big bucks for 11 others.
Or will there be a substantive difference in the sound of the first 4 due to remastering, mixing etc? Just interested in everyone's take on this.
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bitusa2012
We HAVE the first, what?,4 of these albums in mono already don't we? That's how they were initially released. So we're being asked to pay big bucks for 11 others.
Or will there be a substantive difference in the sound of the first 4 due to remastering, mixing etc? Just interested in everyone's take on this.
No one is forced to buy anything. Besides that, the albums will be released seperately next year, as already announced.
All releases carries new remastering as of 2016.
Sometimes I wish people would just take 5 minutes and read the press releases before start bullying.
And by the way, how come this habit that old fans always thinks products like these are aimed at them, personally? As I said earlier in this thread: How about the generation of new Stones fans and vinyl freaks which has emerged since the vinyl became hip again? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to buy these wonderful records as well?
As I said: No one forces you or anyone to buy the thing. If you want to stick with your originals, then fine.
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bitusa2012
We HAVE the first, what?,4 of these albums in mono already don't we? That's how they were initially released. So we're being asked to pay big bucks for 11 others.
Or will there be a substantive difference in the sound of the first 4 due to remastering, mixing etc? Just interested in everyone's take on this.
No one is forced to buy anything. Besides that, the albums will be released seperately next year, as already announced.
All releases carries new remastering as of 2016.
Sometimes I wish people would just take 5 minutes and read the press releases before start bullying.
And by the way, how come this habit that old fans always thinks products like these are aimed at them, personally? As I said earlier in this thread: How about the generation of new Stones fans and vinyl freaks which has emerged since the vinyl became hip again? Shouldn't they have the opportunity to buy these wonderful records as well?
As I said: No one forces you or anyone to buy the thing. If you want to stick with your originals, then fine.
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jp.M
..for Abkco..."12x5"was not issued in UK...
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DandelionPowderman
Aftermath in particular benefits highly when in mono.
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jp.M
..for Abkco..."12x5"was not issued in UK...
And ABKCO as well as [timeisonourside.com] say that '12x5' was released on October 24, 1964 - while [nzentgraf.de] and [en.wikipedia.org] say it was released on October 17, 1964 ....
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jp.M
..for Abkco..."12x5"was not issued in UK...
And ABKCO as well as [timeisonourside.com] say that '12x5' was released on October 24, 1964 - while [nzentgraf.de] and [en.wikipedia.org] say it was released on October 17, 1964 ....
This is really amazing. How difficult can it be! A Rolling Stones LP with the name 12 x 5 was never issued in UK. Well, a reissue came in the 90's.
Even ABCKO page says:
"12x5" was released on 24 October 1964, reaching No 3 on the UK charts"
The LP issued in UK is Rolling Stones No2. and NOT 12x5 ......
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frenki09
Soooooo true! Aftermath is almost unlistenable in stereo. It's that dead space...
"stereo mixes were pretty crude: everything was left, centre or right, with lots of dead space in between"
It's a big relief to FINALLY have the mono releases out. I thought Brenda would never bother saying 'yes' to the mono versions being released...