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Palace Revolution 2000
Like everyone else I think the album is much too long. And it doubles the glaring fault, that the album has no dynamics; absolutely no depth whatsoever. I think I could have handled the album better, if it had stopped for a minute or two; even if it was with a mediocre song.
That blaring mastering, the brick-walling; that same shouting of juvenile lyrics; those forced typical Mick Jagger bridges. There is something so rushed and desperate about that album. "Dirty Work" is a lousy album; but it is a Stones album, and it has it's place in their catalog, and their career.
ABB , I almost wish it hadn't happened; it is that superficial and disposable.
If pressed I'd go with
Side1
Under the Radar
Dangerous Beauty
Back of my Hand
Oh No Not You Again
Rain Fall Down
Side2
She Saw Me Coming
Laugh I Nearly Died
It Won't take long
Biggest Mistake
Rough Justice
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MadMax
For me the brickwalled mixing is the biggest flaw with the record...
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Palace Revolution 2000
Like everyone else I think the album is much too long. And it doubles the glaring fault, that the album has no dynamics; absolutely no depth whatsoever.
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Yeah it's too long but more importantly it's not very well played, basically a Mick+Keith+Charlie effort and that's likely why Mick wanted to reçut it in the studio with some outside help like for B2B. That album has such nice guitar parts by Waddy, Hammond parts by Benmont Trench, percussion by Keltner, etc...They could have afforded it...
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24FPS
I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
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I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
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I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
if Voodoo Lounge is too long, Bridges to Babylon should have been an EP.
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I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
if Voodoo Lounge is too long, Bridges to Babylon should have been an EP.
Voodoo has 15 cuts. Bridge 13. ABB 16. You could cut all three of them together and make one decent album.
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Hairball
"There's some good stuff on there, but I don't know... There's something about the way it holds together, for me. I don't know if we got the tracks in the right order or something like that.
Sometimes, it can make the difference on a record, the way it flows. But I enjoyed making it very much". - Keith,2015
There's one or two tracks on it that are pretty good, but overall it's a mess. Haven't listened from start to finish since just after it was released.
Listened straight through maybe 10 times, but had to stop as it was so annoying. Infamy might just be Keith's worst song ever (with or without the Stones), and even when played live it was crap.
Streets of Love is the low point of the Stones entire career up to this point, but doubt it's possible to sink lower than that. Sweet Neo Con is a miserable/hilarious excuse for a political song.
So many things wrong with this album, it might just be impossible to improve it.
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I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
if Voodoo Lounge is too long, Bridges to Babylon should have been an EP.
Voodoo has 15 cuts. Bridge 13. ABB 16. You could cut all three of them together and make one decent album.
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I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
if Voodoo Lounge is too long, Bridges to Babylon should have been an EP.
Voodoo has 15 cuts. Bridge 13. ABB 16. You could cut all three of them together and make one decent album.
Voodoo is not the album it could have been. It suffers severely from the fact that both songwriters used their best material for their then recent solo albums, Main Offender and Wandering Spirit.
For saving ABB, in my fantasy world a much more radical approach than what is proposed here by other posters is required:
Cut it down to a single album, include Under The Radar, Blue and replace Streets Of Love with Old Habits Die Hard to have a decent ballad. And turn the demo-like sounding, one-dimensional Back Of My Hand into something more interesting by adding the electric coda from the live version.
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I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
if Voodoo Lounge is too long, Bridges to Babylon should have been an EP.
Voodoo has 15 cuts. Bridge 13. ABB 16. You could cut all three of them together and make one decent album.
Voodoo is not the album it could have been. It suffers severely from the fact that both songwriters used their best material for their then recent solo albums, Main Offender and Wandering Spirit.
For saving ABB, in my fantasy world a much more radical approach than what is proposed here by other posters is required:
Cut it down to a single album, include Under The Radar, Blue and replace Streets Of Love with Old Habits Die Hard to have a decent ballad. And turn the demo-like sounding, one-dimensional Back Of My Hand into something more interesting by adding the electric coda from the live version.
I like the cut of your jib son.
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I laugh when people say it's too long. Voodoo Lounge is what's too long. There are a couple standout cuts on ABB, but I still never have the itch to listen to it. The gall for Mick to think he could play bass. My biggest problem post Wyman is that Charlie's cymbals sound like trash can lids, and they have no idea what a proper bass should sound like on their records. Bill's playing ENHANCED the music. Darryl, or Mick, or whoever they've come up so far does NOTHING for the music. I know Bill ain't coming back. And I know they're too lazy to replace Darryl. So..............I don't have a lot of hope for a new album. Don't get me wrong, Blue and Lonesome was great. But that was down and dirty. I don't think they have it in them anymore to produce something that could stand alongside their studio work from 1962-1989.
if Voodoo Lounge is too long, Bridges to Babylon should have been an EP.
Voodoo has 15 cuts. Bridge 13. ABB 16. You could cut all three of them together and make one decent album.
Voodoo is not the album it could have been. It suffers severely from the fact that both songwriters used their best material for their then recent solo albums, Main Offender and Wandering Spirit.
For saving ABB, in my fantasy world a much more radical approach than what is proposed here by other posters is required:
Cut it down to a single album, include Under The Radar, Blue and replace Streets Of Love with Old Habits Die Hard to have a decent ballad. And turn the demo-like sounding, one-dimensional Back Of My Hand into something more interesting by adding the electric coda from the live version.
I like the cut of your jib son.
Yeah, maybe I should offer some to Don and Mick 'n Keef to get them into a bit more creative mindframe when producing Stones albums.
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stickyfingers101
"It Won't Take Long" is a great song
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Rockman
Mick mentioned in an interview that
It Wont Take Long started out as a soul style song …. …
Love the lyrics … kinda like a twin of When Your Gone
And it won't take long to forget you
You know I'm never wrong
It'll all be over in a minute
And it won't take long, ah ……………….
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Rockman
Mick mentioned in an interview that
It Wont Take Long started out as a soul style song …. …
Love the lyrics … kinda like a twin of When Your Gone
And it won't take long to forget you
You know I'm never wrong
It'll all be over in a minute
And it won't take long, ah ……………….
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retired_dog
Voodoo is not the album it could have been. It suffers severely from the fact that both songwriters used their best material for their then recent solo albums, Main Offender and Wandering Spirit.
For saving ABB, in my fantasy world a much more radical approach than what is proposed here by other posters is required:
Cut it down to a single album, include Under The Radar, Blue and replace Streets Of Love with Old Habits Die Hard to have a decent ballad. And turn the demo-like sounding, one-dimensional Back Of My Hand into something more interesting by adding the electric coda from the live version.