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Turner68
i know more adults who went to see taylor swift on this tour than went to see the stones in 2013-2015.
her crowd is not just 12 year olds.
we should consider the possibility that mick knows what he is doing and understands taylor swift and her fans better than we do.
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Turner68
i know more adults who went to see taylor swift on this tour than went to see the stones in 2013-2015.
her crowd is not just 12 year olds.
we should consider the possibility that mick knows what he is doing and understands taylor swift and her fans better than we do.
I don't think the criticism is really from a marketing standpoint, it's more having to do with taste. The Stones music means something to all of us here, obviously. Some of us see Mick as kind of cheapening it by appearing on stage with pop schlock (notwithstanding its current popularity). Nobody will remember who or what taylor Swift was, what her "art" was about, 50 years from now.
But i really doubt it is much about marketing; the Stones have their fans and will clean up on any tour they do, justifiably. I think it's more his ego, and it is sad and embarrassing.
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Chester
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but when was the last time anyone performed Satisfaction with Mick Jagger? Has anyone? Pretty iconic song to just let anyone sing.
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keef94
NO KIDDING. The kvetching on here is just ridiculous. The world's greatest frontman of all time shows up as a special guest to the current standard-bearer, and people are complaining? Unbelievable.
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Chester
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but when was the last time anyone performed Satisfaction with Mick Jagger? Has anyone? Pretty iconic song to just let anyone sing.
Stevie in 1972?
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Chester
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but when was the last time anyone performed Satisfaction with Mick Jagger? Has anyone? Pretty iconic song to just let anyone sing.
Stevie in 1972?
Maybe. What number did he do when he guested on the Donny and Marie tour in 73?
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Turner68
i know more adults who went to see taylor swift on this tour than went to see the stones in 2013-2015.
her crowd is not just 12 year olds.
we should consider the possibility that mick knows what he is doing and understands taylor swift and her fans better than we do.
I don't think the criticism is really from a marketing standpoint, it's more having to do with taste. The Stones music means something to all of us here, obviously. Some of us see Mick as kind of cheapening it by appearing on stage with pop schlock (notwithstanding its current popularity). Nobody will remember who or what taylor Swift was, what her "art" was about, 50 years from now.
But i really doubt it is much about marketing; the Stones have their fans and will clean up on any tour they do, justifiably. I think it's more his ego, and it is sad and embarrassing.
i understand. i prefer to believe he did it for his grandkids, and not think about it anymore :-)
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Hairball
I wonder of Keith has seen this yet.
Do you think Keith would care enough to watch a fax of the performance?
I find it real hard to picture him giving a sh1t, you know?
I mean: Since I don't, why would Keith? :E
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bv
I did not realize there were so many conservative people around here. Putting people and performers in categories. Making rules about who Mick and Keith are supposed to be seen on stage with.
This is the band who recorded STREET FIGHTING MAN. Get rid of the rules. Why suddenly so many rules to follow? Is there good and bad music? Are some people better than others?
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Hairball
I wonder of Keith has seen this yet.
I mean: Since I don't, why would Keith? :E
You must ..., otherwise you wouldn't be writing that you don't.
And no, I really don't think Keith cares enough to watch a fax of the performance,
but then again it is one of his signature songs so he may may be a bit curious as to how his singer performed it with another band.
I never insinuated he wouldn't like it, but I think that's what you may have been reading into it.
I wonder what he thinks of Taylor Swift's guitar player...
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Hairball
I wonder of Keith has seen this yet.
I mean: Since I don't, why would Keith? :E
You must ..., otherwise you wouldn't be writing that you don't.
And no, I really don't think Keith cares enough to watch a fax of the performance,
but then again it is one of his signature songs so he may may be a bit curious as to how his singer performed it with another band.
I never insinuated he wouldn't like it, but I think that's what you may have been reading into it.
I wonder what he thinks of Taylor Swift's guitar player...
it seems to me, that with sssoul has been writing in reflection of all the sturm and more sturm some around here seem to have gotten themselves wrapped up in regarding mick jagger sharing the stage with taylor swift as if the event betrayed them personally and they must somehow restore credibility of the band by posting outrage and lashing ferociously out at anyone who has drunk the kool aid that would allow such a teaming to be ok
this thread has gotten pretty bellicose for not much of a nevermind.
go to your happy place and turn up the stones!
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bye bye johnny
From guitarist Paul Sidoti:
So. Much. Fun. With Taylor & Mick Jagger.. #satisfaction
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bv
I did not realize there were so many conservative people around here. Putting people and performers in categories. Making rules about who Mick and Keith are supposed to be seen on stage with.
This is the band who recorded STREET FIGHTING MAN. Get rid of the rules. Why suddenly so many rules to follow? Is there good and bad music? Are some people better than others?
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Turner68
i know more adults who went to see taylor swift on this tour than went to see the stones in 2013-2015.
her crowd is not just 12 year olds.
we should consider the possibility that mick knows what he is doing and understands taylor swift and her fans better than we do.
I don't think the criticism is really from a marketing standpoint, it's more having to do with taste. The Stones music means something to all of us here, obviously. Some of us see Mick as kind of cheapening it by appearing on stage with pop schlock (notwithstanding its current popularity). Nobody will remember who or what taylor Swift was, what her "art" was about, 50 years from now.
But i really doubt it is much about marketing; the Stones have their fans and will clean up on any tour they do, justifiably. I think it's more his ego, and it is sad and embarrassing.
i understand. i prefer to believe he did it for his grandkids, and not think about it anymore :-)
He did it because he wanted to, Turner. Stop driving yourself crazy. All this speculation on why is just that...speculation. It happened and it's over. GET OVER IT, PEOPLE!
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bleedingman
@tswiftfanatics OMG!!! There really IS a JAGGER and he really MOVES!!! He can be my sugar daddy any ol' time!!
Time to chime in with the bottom line, assuredly. Whatever any of the Stones does is beyond criticism. That is really the only rule. And your question -- is there good music and bad music? -- you are serious?Quote
bv
I did not realize there were so many conservative people around here. Putting people and performers in categories. Making rules about who Mick and Keith are supposed to be seen on stage with.
This is the band who recorded STREET FIGHTING MAN. Get rid of the rules. Why suddenly so many rules to follow? Is there good and bad music? Are some people better than others?
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jlowe
Why the fuss?
Crooner Tony Bennett (80 years+) recorded a duet with the late Amy WINEHOUSE (20+) some years ago. And why not.
It will all be forgotten about within a month.
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bv
I did not realize there were so many conservative people around here. Putting people and performers in categories. Making rules about who Mick and Keith are supposed to be seen on stage with.
This is the band who recorded STREET FIGHTING MAN. Get rid of the rules. Why suddenly so many rules to follow? Is there good and bad music? Are some people better than others?
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HMS
Taylor Swift and the likes of her dont make music, the produce sounds to fill silence. You cant really listen to it, because it is too simple, too stupid, too meaningless, too dull. It´s not art, it´s not seriously music, it´s musical fastfood, in a word: junk.