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Geeee, the ungratefulness of some of the fans on this board!

They could have made this show 100% private and didn't. They included some fans. They invited fans to their rehearsals during last tour. They invited back Mick Taylor for a while. They've added the choir on YCAGWYW. But it's never enough, is it?

We should be glad these old guys are still around to play so well!

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Now.... I wonder if any of the cats that were hanging around out front and asking here about it got in for any part of the show... I was hoping for them the whole time. I wonder if they did?

I was pretty much at the front of the 'just in case' line up at Fonda until 9.15 - no one got in (as far as I know), except for one or two that were able to benefit from favours/connections.

syrel

I stayed until the end of the show. The crowd continued to thin out and I was the very last one to walk away. As far as I could tell, not one person got in who was hoping for a miracle ticket. I couldn't even find a scalper. It was a long, sad drive back to San Diego.

Sorry to hear that cats :( but if you did your best and it didnt work out.... then at least you own your story. You were there and you did what you could and waited until you were the very last person to walk away. That is admirable. A sad story, but a good story to have as your own.

Sometimes our stories of when things did not work out are the best stories. You have my admiration for what you did and hopefully in the long run you will get paid your due for your efforts.

Good job on trying. If I had been as close as San Diego I would have done what you did too with probably the same results and this is what I would saying to myself right now. All we can do is what we can do.

Have fun at opening night, it will be a blast.

I knew going into it that I had a micro-chance of actually getting in but I knew that I would regret it if I didn't at least try.
It wasn't boring. I was surrounded by friendly people, much nicer than the snobby ones walking by with tickets. I say snobby because most of them, when asked if they had an extra ticket, either pretended I didn't exist or gave me a screw you look. Only a few smiled and said they didn't.
Anyway, the last of us remained with stubborn hopes that we might be let in for the final few songs but it was not meant to be. No regrets about trying!

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I agree with you. I was also in line all day. The Stones management or security team could have sent someone out or relayed a message to say early on "Sorry guys, this is basically an industry show, if you don't have tickets, we will not be able to get you in."

They did say that, several times - and we didn't believe them! We stayed on in hope, even though we knew there wasn't much chance. The security staff were not the guys who were going to make a final decision about whether there was additional space, and so we waited, just in case a miracle happened, because we had been told that miracles had happened at previous shows. Alas, it didn't this time.

'The guy in the hat' got in through an industry connection - and good for him, he had been working the channels for a very long time.

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hey everybody,

i don’t post very much, but i do read this fun threads and this is my experience with last night show…

i was there at the fonda in the morning to get tickets, i was there at el rey (pick up location to get tickets) to try to get lucky with tickets too, and i was there at the fonda during the show, without any luck to get in.

although im sure the show was amazing, this was not cater to fans… it was a private party for their invites… i’m not saying this angry, i’m not even whinning, but let’s say things the way they are… let’s not trick ourselves… you can debate if the stones owe their fans anything or nothing… but the point is that 99.9% of the people that go in… 1) have some insider that help them get tickets 2) were willing to pay big bucks to get in.

the whole online sale was bullshit… probably only 10 people got tickets that way… i was there at el rey and witness the wristband/ticket pick up from the online sale… those picking up were people inside the music industry, or with some insiders, etc etc…. they weren’t the fans trying to go online and get a ticket.. I even know some of them since I live in LA.

99.9% of the fans that try really hard to get in from early in the morning (like myself) were wondering outside without a ticket when the show started… were we all so unlucky although we all try so hard to get a ticket??

I say again, I’m not whinning, or angry,… but let’s just call things as they are… this was NOT a 5 dollar ticket show for lucky fans who got online in time. That was a bullshit PR/marketing thing… You can thing that’s wrong, you can think that’s right… but let’s agree on that

cheers and see you in San Diego.

Very well spoken

Like me and a few others here being called "awful" people today for pointing this out, it confirms what everyone here have heard and been reading today about the show. It was not a show for the real fans, it was a show for celebrities, people with the right connections and very few "real" fans who hade the luck of their life scoring tickets through the web or paying big $$$$$ to get in. I think it´s extremely disrespectful to people like you, real fans queuing upp all day without a single chance to even buy a ticket. That´s how they say thank you to their real fans, who would be queuing for hours if the weren´t a real fan? No one. It´s shame and ignorant behaviour, it´s all about the money and nothing about people whom in many cases have dedicated most of their life to the band in one way or another. People here can call me "awful" how much they want, this is still my opinion. It´s a mockery against the real fans.

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It was a private party. Big deal, nothing to get hung about. Sounds like a good show, interesting setlist.

Only thing that puzzles me: this HAS to be released, otherwise it baffles me. If you have a celebrities-only pre-tour show, why not just play warhorses? The stars are all gonna walk out at SWAY, so why not give them MISS YOU, et al?

The only reason for this setlist is to release something. It's the only way this makes any sense.

Of course, I live in LA and wouldn't go east of the 405 to see the modern-day Stones, so I may be entirely full of shit!

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a VIP corporate gig. would you expect anything less at this point? all of it so misleading--the faux twitter thing, the non-periscope event, the weird ticket "sale" - whoever works with the Stones on this crap is just so out of touch.and sadly, almost no buzz about this event today--no online trending, nothing. Old men playing by old rules, sorry. I'm sure the show was solid; they are still professional. But they're so out of touch.

There were many many fans including myself who were completely locked out. Announcing a club show on Twitter and making everyone log on to snag a little more than 100 tickets was an illusion to make it appear like it was open to the public. Truth was that by the time they announced the show this afternoon, 95% of the tickets were already claimed for by industry-types, people in the know and insiders who are connected to the band and/or related record company.

Club/theater shows are (were?) the only place where fans could have the band for themselves and weed out the industry type. Really a shame that a classic album was in essence wasted on this type of crowd. From the outside you could clearly see many many people leave after 15, 20 minutes after the show started. They would still not let people in. Fans who waited all day at both the El Rey and the Fonda were shocked that they were locked out.

If this is how the band wants to handle club shows from now on---I'd rather they not come back to LA.

such a shame to treat real fans like this, but no one can hardly be surprised.

You people are awful. The Stones owe you nothing, they can do whatever they like. They can hold a private party for their freinds and associates as a warm up whenever they like it. Be glad they invited some 100 fans to join in.

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I agree with you. I was also in line all day. The Stones management or security team could have sent someone out or relayed a message to say early on "Sorry guys, this is basically an industry show, if you don't have tickets, we will not be able to get you in."
This would have been a nice gesture on their part and it would have saved us 8+ hours of standing in line for nothing. Surely at least by 7:00pm or so they knew they weren't letting anyone in, yet nobody came out and said anything. Their fans who were willing to take off from work and stand outside all day probably deserved something like this. Between the line at the El Rey (which I was in) and the line at the Fonda (which I was also in), there were 300 or so fans waiting in line for the chance to see them. When no annoucements are made to the contrary, you keep thinking there is a chance to get in if you keep waiting patiently. Out of these 300+, I saw only ONE person make it in to the venue (the guy with the hat who was in front of the line all day). Some of us waited until the show was halfway over still thinking there was a chance since so many people were leaving the venue, yet still no entries allowed.
I know we aren't owed anything, I'm just saying it would have been a nice gesture on their part to "release" the line if they had no intention of letting anyone in.
On to San Diego....

But . . . you people on line all day are part of the story, part of the PR, that's why they sold the 100 tickets and let people hold out hope, so they could include all the people lining up as part of the PR. Then they cut to the models, etc. who actually got to see the show.

Similar to what they did when they played the Beacon show that ended up being the Scorcese movie. They cancelled an Atlantic City gig for a few days before in order to save Mick's voice for the big filming. But they did not announce the cancellation until way late. I know people who traveled to Atlantic City for the show to be told upon check in at their hotel that the show was off. The reason thy did not announce the cancellation earlier, when they could have, was that it helped the hotel/casino people to not do so, to have the people travel to AC; some would stay anyway and spend their money. So they shit all over their fans so as not to alienate the hotel/casino owners. And made their movie with the models.

Different circumstances here but same motivation. They want the people lining up to show the great demand so no way they would come out and tell you to go home, there's no chance. You all wasted your day; they don't care.

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Geeee, the ungratefulness of some of the fans on this board!

They could have made this show 100% private and didn't. They included some fans. They invited fans to their rehearsals during last tour. They invited back Mick Taylor for a while. They've added the choir on YCAGWYW. But it's never enough, is it?

We should be glad these old guys are still around to play so well!

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.

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It was a private party. Big deal, nothing to get hung about. Sounds like a good show, interesting setlist.

Only thing that puzzles me: this HAS to be released, otherwise it baffles me. If you have a celebrities-only pre-tour show, why not just play warhorses? The stars are all gonna walk out at SWAY, so why not give them MISS YOU, et al?

The only reason for this setlist is to release something. It's the only way this makes any sense.

Of course, I live in LA and wouldn't go east of the 405 to see the modern-day Stones, so I may be entirely full of shit!

Makes perfect sense to me. The band needed to practice these tunes before a live audience, not only to gauge the reaction but to insure they could pull them off adequately. I doubt we'll get the whole SF set on the rest of this tour but suspect all the songs will be played at some point, amid the usual suspects.

Even if not released, it does drum up interest for the re-release and fulfills the obligation to meet expectations to play all of that record since it has been discussed and hyped. They know this was lots of peoples favorite record and a better platform for playing it I couldn't think of. Small venue, entitled audience of mostly sit down and listen types who probably all own the record...

I am however surprised you didn't at least try for tickets on-line. This could have been the show that brought you back into the fold.

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I agree with you. I was also in line all day. The Stones management or security team could have sent someone out or relayed a message to say early on "Sorry guys, this is basically an industry show, if you don't have tickets, we will not be able to get you in."
This would have been a nice gesture on their part and it would have saved us 8+ hours of standing in line for nothing. Surely at least by 7:00pm or so they knew they weren't letting anyone in, yet nobody came out and said anything. Their fans who were willing to take off from work and stand outside all day probably deserved something like this. Between the line at the El Rey (which I was in) and the line at the Fonda (which I was also in), there were 300 or so fans waiting in line for the chance to see them. When no annoucements are made to the contrary, you keep thinking there is a chance to get in if you keep waiting patiently. Out of these 300+, I saw only ONE person make it in to the venue (the guy with the hat who was in front of the line all day). Some of us waited until the show was halfway over still thinking there was a chance since so many people were leaving the venue, yet still no entries allowed.
I know we aren't owed anything, I'm just saying it would have been a nice gesture on their part to "release" the line if they had no intention of letting anyone in.
On to San Diego....

But . . . you people on line all day are part of the story, part of the PR, that's why they sold the 100 tickets and let people hold out hope, so they could include all the people lining up as part of the PR. Then they cut to the models, etc. who actually got to see the show.

Similar to what they did when they played the Beacon show that ended up being the Scorcese movie. They cancelled an Atlantic City gig for a few days before in order to save Mick's voice for the big filming. But they did not announce the cancellation until way late. I know people who traveled to Atlantic City for the show to be told upon check in at their hotel that the show was off. The reason thy did not announce the cancellation earlier, when they could have, was that it helped the hotel/casino people to not do so, to have the people travel to AC; some would stay anyway and spend their money. So they shit all over their fans so as not to alienate the hotel/casino owners. And made their movie with the models.

Different circumstances here but same motivation. They want the people lining up to show the great demand so no way they would come out and tell you to go home, there's no chance. You all wasted your day; they don't care.

That sounds a bit overly cynical. I was pretty upset by the fact that Atlantic City was postponed. I had flown in for that show to have it cancelled that afternoon. On the other hand, I actually did get a Beacon ticket via Ticketmaster - $27. I don't know if it is all as calculated as you make it sound.

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Ugh, stop whining, I slept on the street in Toronto in '05, was in line for 14 hours and didn't get in to the Phoenix (although they did let a few more fans into the show after it started.) Any Stones fan who knows these shows, knows it's a damn miracle if you get in. Stop acting so surprised that it mostly VIPs.

Surprised? Anyone surprised at this would have to be naive in the extreme. There is a difference between being surprised and not liking something. And someone who doesn't like the fact that it's all about the hype and the money for them, that they do a show like this for the celebs and the models, many of whom couldn't care less about being there, is whining? Or someone who points out that, for the Stones, what they want is good looking people for the video, the real fans be damned. It's whining to not like that? OK.

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me and my parents who seen stones play in 70s 80s and 90s, truly felt let down by this organization of yesterday's show. People I met in line had walked, drove, flew, and begged... and that's just to get into the line at 7am... a line of pure faith, with absolutely NO confirmation that the stones are even playing a show. with real fans who have real love for the band. It was a huge letdown to later see all these quasi fans show off on IG and fb posts. One person was an assistant to a pop star who had hits in the late 70s... so you can only imagine if this kid got in, all bets are off... all of hollywood had gotten to cut in line at that point. At least now I know better. But I truly felt let down by my favorite band. Felt like a sucker. But then again we were warned weeks ago it was gonna be an industry show. Live and learn. Such a bummer

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me and my parents who seen stones play in 70s 80s and 90s, truly felt let down by this organization of yesterday's show. People I met in line had walked, drove, flew, and begged... and that's just to get into the line at 7am... a line of pure faith, with absolutely NO confirmation that the stones are even playing a show. with real fans who have real love for the band. It was a huge letdown to later see all these quasi fans show off on IG and fb posts. One person was an assistant to a pop star who had hits in the late 70s... so you can only imagine if this kid got in, all bets are off... all of hollywood had gotten to cut in line at that point. At least now I know better. But I truly felt let down by my favorite band. Felt like a sucker. But then again we were warned weeks ago it was gonna be an industry show. Live and learn. Such a bummer

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me and my parents who seen stones play in 70s 80s and 90s, truly felt let down by this organization of yesterday's show. People I met in line had walked, drove, flew, and begged... and that's just to get into the line at 7am... a line of pure faith, with absolutely NO confirmation that the stones are even playing a show. with real fans who have real love for the band. It was a huge letdown to later see all these quasi fans show off on IG and fb posts. One person was an assistant to a pop star who had hits in the late 70s... so you can only imagine if this kid got in, all bets are off... all of hollywood had gotten to cut in line at that point. At least now I know better. But I truly felt let down by my favorite band. Felt like a sucker. But then again we were warned weeks ago it was gonna be an industry show. Live and learn. Such a bummer

It's LA dear. Business as usual. One of the most petty and superficial places on the planet. They obviously couldn't get away with such stuff in Europe, Columbus OH, or KC, MO. Karma is a bitch and all those responsible will likely be repeatedly turned down by St. Peter when they are trying to see Hendrix and BB King playing their every Sat. night gig in the Heavenly Theater.

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