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stonehearted
Well, that's a set list that happens but once every 45 years or so.

In that case, I'll take a classic album reissue over a new album any day.

Goat's Head Soup for next reissue anyone?

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mnewman505
Here's my beef guys, of course you're allowed to share your opinions and your feelings about what happened last night. It's just that for those of us who have been following the Stones closely for years this is what happens at these club shows. At least 75% of the audience is always invited VIPs and industry types. So I guess what i'm saying is that this should not come as a shock or surprise to any of you. The Stones have never been about pleasing the "fans" in this regard. The reason I get bored is that, just like the setlist whining, this is nothing new. This is how the Stones have basically always handled these club shows. Hell you can go all the way back to 1989 and Toad's Place and it was the same deal. A vast majority of that audience were music industry types who came up from New York. It sucked then and it sucked last night, but it's nothing new....the Stones have never gone out of their way to get fans into shows like this. The only rare exception may have been at least some of the Theatre shows on Licks where an effort seemed to be somewhat made to get fans in and to mitigate some scalping. Granted those were larger venues.

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stonehearted
Well, that's a set list that happens but once every 45 years or so.

In that case, I'll take a classic album reissue over a new album any day.

Goat's Head Soup for next reissue anyone?

Yes Please.

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kevin2112
My account as someone who didn't make it in:

Got to the Fonda around 6:30, ticketless. The sidewalk in front of the theater was blocked off, the whole block. I waited around for a little while on the west corner before being told by someone that there was a line of other ticketless fans forming on the opposite end of the block, and if we wanted any chance at all, that's where we needed to be. I headed over to the east side of the block, and there were about maybe 70 people there queuing up.

Not much to say about the next several hours: watched a lot of people with wristbands walking by. Alex Turner from the Arctic Monkeys literally ran past me on the sidewalk, hand in hand with a tall blonde model-type. We seemed to be inching forward but no one was getting let in: people were just doubling and tripling up the line. We did get to hear the first bit of Start Me Up, albeit muffled, because the venue door was still open. Closed soon after though. We waited and waited, and the herd slowly thinned as people became more discouraged. ONE person, the man at the very front of this line, was eventually let in (I can't remember if it was before or after the show started). Did see people leaving the show, even early on, which was disappointing but also gave us hope.

By the time the show was coming to an end there were probably only 20 people remaining, myself included. No dice. We made our way to the load-in areas of the venue for hopes of catching a glimpse of the Stones, but no luck. They had gone out whichever exit I wasn't at. We then made our way to the front for the rest of the night, where people were exiting the theater.

Famous faces I saw exiting, some swarmed by paparazzi: Bruce Willis, James Cameron, Steven Van Zant (I waved and he waved back!), Patti Hansen, Don Was, Nick Valensi from the Strokes, Alex Turner again, who despite his waiting ride took a photo with everyone who wanted one (seemed pretty out of it/drunk), and a pretty drunk Patricia Arquette, who chatted with fans for quite awhile. A couple other faces whose names escaped me walked by me as well. Definitely recognized them but not enough to recall who they were. Eventually it was just a group of teen girls left hoping to see Harry Styles but they were told by a woman who had been inside that he had left long ago.

A friend I made there knew one of the security guards pretty well and he tried to get us laminates for the after-party, but he was pretty busy and by the time he had a moment to come over to us he said at that point there was almost no one worth seeing left there. Bummer, that would have been cool.

A shame none of us made it in (save for that one) considering that other small shows have let hopefuls in, but still an interesting night. I'm not too surprised in retrospect. This absolutely WAS a VIP/corporate gig, and more of a film shoot than a regular show. That's why we weren't getting let in, per the security: even if there was room inside, it mattered that they had their attractive camera-ready faces. Film shoots are strict. Ordinary Stones club shows maybe not so much. And yes, I'm positive the plan is for it to be released, unless they are unhappy with a performance. This wasn't just filmed like every other gig is filmed, it was a full-on feature-level production from what I saw outside the theater as well as leaving the theater.

As for all the people bickering about it being that way, my only gripe is that they made it look like it was going to be more public than it was and gave so much hope.
The Stones' camp isn't stupid. They KNOW that selling tickets online with a very lopsided supply/demand is an awful idea. Servers can't handle the traffic and crash. It was pretty brutal to have to be subject to trying to succeed at that.
What really should have happened is that the show was announced AS a private gig, but "200 very lucky fans are going to be let in!" or something like that, so everyone didn't get their hopes too high. It should have been very upfront that regular fans aren't going to get in. The Stones can throw whatever event they want. I have nothing against corporate gigs or whatever you want to call it. But to make it look like it was an ordinary show is a little cold, because so many people were let down.

I realized too late last night that I actually do have some pretty high-level potential connections to the Stones through various friends of friends (I say potential because I've never tried to use them before). It's a shame I didn't remember this earlier, because one of them especially might have been a very good shot at my ticket inside.

Oh well. That turned out a lot longer than I planned. If you read all that...I'm sorry.

Cheers! We'll get in next time.

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crawdaddy
I've had just one experience of being in line for a Stones gig which was the dear old, now sadly departed Astoria 2003.
Two full days and one night and no tix for us fans in line.
Was told it was sold out but always hoping we could get in.

Wasn't to be and life go's on.

Met some great Stones fans from all over the world in that line ,and I was only an hour from home, it didn't rain, so no real big letdown for me.

Think it was either before or after Astoria got really lucky for me and brother in law getting tix quite easily for The Point at Dublin for both nights .
May have been 2007, not sure.
Fantastic gigs and front row for second show and about 5000 capacity.
Keith said something like, 'It's like playing in my living room'.

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mnewman505
Here's my beef guys, of course you're allowed to share your opinions and your feelings about what happened last night. It's just that for those of us who have been following the Stones closely for years this is what happens at these club shows. At least 75% of the audience is always invited VIPs and industry types. So I guess what i'm saying is that this should not come as a shock or surprise to any of you. The Stones have never been about pleasing the "fans" in this regard. The reason I get bored is that, just like the setlist whining, this is nothing new. This is how the Stones have basically always handled these club shows. Hell you can go all the way back to 1989 and Toad's Place and it was the same deal. A vast majority of that audience were music industry types who came up from New York. It sucked then and it sucked last night, but it's nothing new....the Stones have never gone out of their way to get fans into shows like this. The only rare exception may have been at least some of the Theatre shows on Licks where an effort seemed to be somewhat made to get fans in and to mitigate some scalping. Granted those were larger venues.

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strat72
Note to Jagger: If your going to pay/invite young, foxy teenage girls to the gig, and you want them to stay for longer than ten minutes, may I suggest that you do not also ban them from having their phones. These girls simply cannot have a good time, without telling everyone what a good time they are having. It's impossible for them to do that without their phones. Twitter, snapchat, instagram! Get with the times Mick!

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Nikkei
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFgYcQTVAAEuygW.jpg

>< What a setlist! W O W I do hope they take pity on us Brits later on and roll this one out in Blighty.

Cheers,
SonicD

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Justin
Shall we start guessing which guest stars will be appearing on each of the songs during the Sticky Fingers set?

Brown Sugar
Sway
Wild Horses - with Taylor Swift or Katy Perry?
Can't You Hear Me Knockin
You Gotta Move - with Gary Clark Jr
I Got The Blues - with John Mayer or Bruno Mars?
Sister Morphine - with Lorde or Hozier?
Dead Flowers - with Keith Urban and/or Taylor Swift?
Moonlight Mile

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mnewman505
Here's my beef guys, of course you're allowed to share your opinions and your feelings about what happened last night. It's just that for those of us who have been following the Stones closely for years this is what happens at these club shows. At least 75% of the audience is always invited VIPs and industry types. So I guess what i'm saying is that this should not come as a shock or surprise to any of you. The Stones have never been about pleasing the "fans" in this regard. The reason I get bored is that, just like the setlist whining, this is nothing new. This is how the Stones have basically always handled these club shows. Hell you can go all the way back to 1989 and Toad's Place and it was the same deal. A vast majority of that audience were music industry types who came up from New York. It sucked then and it sucked last night, but it's nothing new....the Stones have never gone out of their way to get fans into shows like this. The only rare exception may have been at least some of the Theatre shows on Licks where an effort seemed to be somewhat made to get fans in and to mitigate some scalping. Granted those were larger venues.

Not true for Double Door 97' alot of regular people...top local DJ's could not get in JC handed me and my girlfriend a Pass... In for $0.00 front row stage left...It is the Luck of the Draw...I do agree to a degree...Was the same for Palais Royale...Alot of so-called Real fans got in...

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Nikkei
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFgYcQTVAAEuygW.jpg

>< What a setlist! W O W I do hope they take pity on us Brits later on and roll this one out in Blighty.

Cheers,
SonicD

Yes it is great...to bad they have a severe case of writters block...Nothing later than 81'.....Weak...I do still like them though and am glad they are trampling around the planet !!!!

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Note to Jagger: If your going to pay/invite young, foxy teenage girls to the gig, and you want them to stay for longer than ten minutes, may I suggest that you do not also ban them from having their phones. These girls simply cannot have a good time, without telling everyone what a good time they are having. It's impossible for them to do that without their phones. Twitter, snapchat, instagram! Get with the times Mick!

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kevin2112
My account as someone who didn't make it in:

Got to the Fonda around 6:30, ticketless. The sidewalk in front of the theater was blocked off, the whole block. I waited around for a little while on the west corner before being told by someone that there was a line of other ticketless fans forming on the opposite end of the block, and if we wanted any chance at all, that's where we needed to be. I headed over to the east side of the block, and there were about maybe 70 people there queuing up.

Not much to say about the next several hours: watched a lot of people with wristbands walking by. Alex Turner from the Arctic Monkeys literally ran past me on the sidewalk, hand in hand with a tall blonde model-type. We seemed to be inching forward but no one was getting let in: people were just doubling and tripling up the line. We did get to hear the first bit of Start Me Up, albeit muffled, because the venue door was still open. Closed soon after though. We waited and waited, and the herd slowly thinned as people became more discouraged. ONE person, the man at the very front of this line, was eventually let in (I can't remember if it was before or after the show started). Did see people leaving the show, even early on, which was disappointing but also gave us hope.

By the time the show was coming to an end there were probably only 20 people remaining, myself included. No dice. We made our way to the load-in areas of the venue for hopes of catching a glimpse of the Stones, but no luck. They had gone out whichever exit I wasn't at. We then made our way to the front for the rest of the night, where people were exiting the theater.

Famous faces I saw exiting, some swarmed by paparazzi: Bruce Willis, James Cameron, Steven Van Zant (I waved and he waved back!), Patti Hansen, Don Was, Nick Valensi from the Strokes, Alex Turner again, who despite his waiting ride took a photo with everyone who wanted one (seemed pretty out of it/drunk), and a pretty drunk Patricia Arquette, who chatted with fans for quite awhile. A couple other faces whose names escaped me walked by me as well. Definitely recognized them but not enough to recall who they were. Eventually it was just a group of teen girls left hoping to see Harry Styles but they were told by a woman who had been inside that he had left long ago.

A friend I made there knew one of the security guards pretty well and he tried to get us laminates for the after-party, but he was pretty busy and by the time he had a moment to come over to us he said at that point there was almost no one worth seeing left there. Bummer, that would have been cool.

A shame none of us made it in (save for that one) considering that other small shows have let hopefuls in, but still an interesting night. I'm not too surprised in retrospect. This absolutely WAS a VIP/corporate gig, and more of a film shoot than a regular show. That's why we weren't getting let in, per the security: even if there was room inside, it mattered that they had their attractive camera-ready faces. Film shoots are strict. Ordinary Stones club shows maybe not so much. And yes, I'm positive the plan is for it to be released, unless they are unhappy with a performance. This wasn't just filmed like every other gig is filmed, it was a full-on feature-level production from what I saw outside the theater as well as leaving the theater.

As for all the people bickering about it being that way, my only gripe is that they made it look like it was going to be more public than it was and gave so much hope.
The Stones' camp isn't stupid. They KNOW that selling tickets online with a very lopsided supply/demand is an awful idea. Servers can't handle the traffic and crash. It was pretty brutal to have to be subject to trying to succeed at that.
What really should have happened is that the show was announced AS a private gig, but "200 very lucky fans are going to be let in!" or something like that, so everyone didn't get their hopes too high. It should have been very upfront that regular fans aren't going to get in. The Stones can throw whatever event they want. I have nothing against corporate gigs or whatever you want to call it. But to make it look like it was an ordinary show is a little cold, because so many people were let down.

I realized too late last night that I actually do have some pretty high-level potential connections to the Stones through various friends of friends (I say potential because I've never tried to use them before). It's a shame I didn't remember this earlier, because one of them especially might have been a very good shot at my ticket inside.

Oh well. That turned out a lot longer than I planned. If you read all that...I'm sorry.

Cheers! We'll get in next time.

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onlystones
I just saw the greatest show of my life last night. I don't understand waking up to all of the negative posts. There are fifteen shows on this tour with over a million seats to choose from. The Stones have made it possible for every fan ("TRUE FAN" OR NOT), EVERY FAN to get in this summer. If you go to any stadium tour and say you couldn't get in, you simply didn't try. Cost is not a factor, there are tickets under $50.00 US.

Do yourself a favor, pick a Zip Code show, go to it and enjoy the performance.
if you don't enjoy it don't go back. Then come on and tell us why you didn't like the performance!!!!

Its all about the music and performances.

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Justin
Shall we start guessing which guest stars will be appearing on each of the songs during the Sticky Fingers set?

Brown Sugar
Sway
Wild Horses - with Taylor Swift or Katy Perry?
Can't You Hear Me Knockin
You Gotta Move - with Gary Clark Jr
I Got The Blues - with John Mayer or Bruno Mars?
Sister Morphine - with Lorde or Hozier?
Dead Flowers - with Keith Urban and/or Taylor Swift?
Moonlight Mile

My pick is John Lennon on Dead Flowers !!!

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kevin2112
My account as someone who didn't make it in:

Got to the Fonda around 6:30, ticketless. The sidewalk in front of the theater was blocked off, the whole block. I waited around for a little while on the west corner before being told by someone that there was a line of other ticketless fans forming on the opposite end of the block, and if we wanted any chance at all, that's where we needed to be. I headed over to the east side of the block, and there were about maybe 70 people there queuing up.

Not much to say about the next several hours: watched a lot of people with wristbands walking by. Alex Turner from the Arctic Monkeys literally ran past me on the sidewalk, hand in hand with a tall blonde model-type. We seemed to be inching forward but no one was getting let in: people were just doubling and tripling up the line. We did get to hear the first bit of Start Me Up, albeit muffled, because the venue door was still open. Closed soon after though. We waited and waited, and the herd slowly thinned as people became more discouraged. ONE person, the man at the very front of this line, was eventually let in (I can't remember if it was before or after the show started). Did see people leaving the show, even early on, which was disappointing but also gave us hope.

By the time the show was coming to an end there were probably only 20 people remaining, myself included. No dice. We made our way to the load-in areas of the venue for hopes of catching a glimpse of the Stones, but no luck. They had gone out whichever exit I wasn't at. We then made our way to the front for the rest of the night, where people were exiting the theater.

Famous faces I saw exiting, some swarmed by paparazzi: Bruce Willis, James Cameron, Steven Van Zant (I waved and he waved back!), Patti Hansen, Don Was, Nick Valensi from the Strokes, Alex Turner again, who despite his waiting ride took a photo with everyone who wanted one (seemed pretty out of it/drunk), and a pretty drunk Patricia Arquette, who chatted with fans for quite awhile. A couple other faces whose names escaped me walked by me as well. Definitely recognized them but not enough to recall who they were. Eventually it was just a group of teen girls left hoping to see Harry Styles but they were told by a woman who had been inside that he had left long ago.

A friend I made there knew one of the security guards pretty well and he tried to get us laminates for the after-party, but he was pretty busy and by the time he had a moment to come over to us he said at that point there was almost no one worth seeing left there. Bummer, that would have been cool.

A shame none of us made it in (save for that one) considering that other small shows have let hopefuls in, but still an interesting night. I'm not too surprised in retrospect. This absolutely WAS a VIP/corporate gig, and more of a film shoot than a regular show. That's why we weren't getting let in, per the security: even if there was room inside, it mattered that they had their attractive camera-ready faces. Film shoots are strict. Ordinary Stones club shows maybe not so much. And yes, I'm positive the plan is for it to be released, unless they are unhappy with a performance. This wasn't just filmed like every other gig is filmed, it was a full-on feature-level production from what I saw outside the theater as well as leaving the theater.

As for all the people bickering about it being that way, my only gripe is that they made it look like it was going to be more public than it was and gave so much hope.
The Stones' camp isn't stupid. They KNOW that selling tickets online with a very lopsided supply/demand is an awful idea. Servers can't handle the traffic and crash. It was pretty brutal to have to be subject to trying to succeed at that.
What really should have happened is that the show was announced AS a private gig, but "200 very lucky fans are going to be let in!" or something like that, so everyone didn't get their hopes too high. It should have been very upfront that regular fans aren't going to get in. The Stones can throw whatever event they want. I have nothing against corporate gigs or whatever you want to call it. But to make it look like it was an ordinary show is a little cold, because so many people were let down.

I realized too late last night that I actually do have some pretty high-level potential connections to the Stones through various friends of friends (I say potential because I've never tried to use them before). It's a shame I didn't remember this earlier, because one of them especially might have been a very good shot at my ticket inside.

Oh well. That turned out a lot longer than I planned. If you read all that...I'm sorry.

Cheers! We'll get in next time.

Well said.

Dissappointment and club shows go hand in hand. It's a lottery with no guarantees--that is clear to everyone involved. But this one was completely different. The spectacle they made of the entire event led a lot of people on for the wrong reasons. Announcing a theater show to 1.5 million of their followers on Twitter, full knowing that there were only about 100 tickets actually available for purchase was cruel. The banners and billboards posted all over Hollywood put the spotlight on the Fonda theater gave the impression that it would be an affair that most fans would get to participate in. I wish they had been transparent with their plans and simply made it clear that this was a closed set for a filming of a live release (like "Shine A Light" ). They should have treated it like the corporate show they did in Barcelona for Deutche Bank in 2007 or the Paris gig in 2012 that wasn't even officially announced anywhere. Those shows were basically off the radar. Obviously now looking back, last night's event was a calculated PR circus that went off perfectly. There was no way in hell they were going to allow this event go off the radar. Whoever started the "LA Is A Gift" thread saying that they dropped the ball on PR for this tour should be eating their hat right now. They got their PR tenfold and also misled their LA fans in an equally big way.

As for "it's LA of course theirs going to be VIP people inside." There are always VIP people at events...but they NEVER outnumber the unconnected-average fan in attendance: usually they average about 10-20% in attendance, last night it appeared to be filled with 95% VIP. That is hugely disproportionate.

As I said everyone in line knew what they were getting into. We aren't newbies to this sport. Myself and others waited 7+ hours, standing in lines, driving around Hollywood trying to get into the show. People in line traveled far and wide to get here. No one wants a trophy for doing that. But to realize that your efforts were truly in vain not because you simply didn't get into the show but rather because you were simply not welcome--is what is worse. There is a huge difference.

But maybe the worst part is to come on this board and get crude comments saying that we're awful people and we should leave just because we didn't get in. That's a dickish thing to do. Out of all places where I'd expect some kind of understanding and all we get are armchair critics in faraway states and continents---with absolutely ZERO investment into the event---saying classless comments like that is incredibly disappointing especially since everyone who did speak up did so in a calm manner without any huge tantrums. I'm not surprised people are reacting this way. Everyone in this thread already got what they wanted from this event: a new set-list report, a few pictures and a couple videos. Hard-on achieved. "Screw the people who were actually there and put in the work."

Hope everyone enjoys the tour.

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kevin2112
My account as someone who didn't make it in:

Got to the Fonda around 6:30, ticketless. The sidewalk in front of the theater was blocked off, the whole block. I waited around for a little while on the west corner before being told by someone that there was a line of other ticketless fans forming on the opposite end of the block, and if we wanted any chance at all, that's where we needed to be. I headed over to the east side of the block, and there were about maybe 70 people there queuing up.

Not much to say about the next several hours: watched a lot of people with wristbands walking by. Alex Turner from the Arctic Monkeys literally ran past me on the sidewalk, hand in hand with a tall blonde model-type. We seemed to be inching forward but no one was getting let in: people were just doubling and tripling up the line. We did get to hear the first bit of Start Me Up, albeit muffled, because the venue door was still open. Closed soon after though. We waited and waited, and the herd slowly thinned as people became more discouraged. ONE person, the man at the very front of this line, was eventually let in (I can't remember if it was before or after the show started). Did see people leaving the show, even early on, which was disappointing but also gave us hope.

By the time the show was coming to an end there were probably only 20 people remaining, myself included. No dice. We made our way to the load-in areas of the venue for hopes of catching a glimpse of the Stones, but no luck. They had gone out whichever exit I wasn't at. We then made our way to the front for the rest of the night, where people were exiting the theater.

Famous faces I saw exiting, some swarmed by paparazzi: Bruce Willis, James Cameron, Steven Van Zant (I waved and he waved back!), Patti Hansen, Don Was, Nick Valensi from the Strokes, Alex Turner again, who despite his waiting ride took a photo with everyone who wanted one (seemed pretty out of it/drunk), and a pretty drunk Patricia Arquette, who chatted with fans for quite awhile. A couple other faces whose names escaped me walked by me as well. Definitely recognized them but not enough to recall who they were. Eventually it was just a group of teen girls left hoping to see Harry Styles but they were told by a woman who had been inside that he had left long ago.

A friend I made there knew one of the security guards pretty well and he tried to get us laminates for the after-party, but he was pretty busy and by the time he had a moment to come over to us he said at that point there was almost no one worth seeing left there. Bummer, that would have been cool.

A shame none of us made it in (save for that one) considering that other small shows have let hopefuls in, but still an interesting night. I'm not too surprised in retrospect. This absolutely WAS a VIP/corporate gig, and more of a film shoot than a regular show. That's why we weren't getting let in, per the security: even if there was room inside, it mattered that they had their attractive camera-ready faces. Film shoots are strict. Ordinary Stones club shows maybe not so much. And yes, I'm positive the plan is for it to be released, unless they are unhappy with a performance. This wasn't just filmed like every other gig is filmed, it was a full-on feature-level production from what I saw outside the theater as well as leaving the theater.

As for all the people bickering about it being that way, my only gripe is that they made it look like it was going to be more public than it was and gave so much hope.
The Stones' camp isn't stupid. They KNOW that selling tickets online with a very lopsided supply/demand is an awful idea. Servers can't handle the traffic and crash. It was pretty brutal to have to be subject to trying to succeed at that.
What really should have happened is that the show was announced AS a private gig, but "200 very lucky fans are going to be let in!" or something like that, so everyone didn't get their hopes too high. It should have been very upfront that regular fans aren't going to get in. The Stones can throw whatever event they want. I have nothing against corporate gigs or whatever you want to call it. But to make it look like it was an ordinary show is a little cold, because so many people were let down.

I realized too late last night that I actually do have some pretty high-level potential connections to the Stones through various friends of friends (I say potential because I've never tried to use them before). It's a shame I didn't remember this earlier, because one of them especially might have been a very good shot at my ticket inside.

Oh well. That turned out a lot longer than I planned. If you read all that...I'm sorry.

Cheers! We'll get in next time.

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strat72
I agree that The Stones owe nothing to nobody, and I can only assume that the people complaining on this thread must be new fans, because if they weren't, they would know that The Stones have never, and will never care about pleasing geniune fans of the band. I'm not complaining, just stating a fact.

Note to Jagger: If your going to pay/invite young, foxy teenage girls to the gig, and you want them to stay for longer than ten minutes, may I suggest that you do not also ban them from having their phones. These girls simply cannot have a good time, without telling everyone what a good time they are having. It's impossible for them to do that without their phones. Twitter, snapchat, instagram! Get with the times Mick!

Anyways, I hope one of these said 'foxy bitches' (I'm sure at least one must have stayed for the whole gig) was enamoured enough with you for you to take them back to your hotel and shag senseless. You old rascal you! Great setlist by the way, wasted on the vast majority of that crowd, but still great.