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I'm guessing he is just depressed from having recently gotten sober, having a tough time dealing with all the feelings he's suppressed all those years and just wishing he could feel better. I imagine that shit is harder than anything he has ever done before.

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Believe it or not I saw the Stones at the Long Beach Arena in '72 and the Forum in '72. They played a smaller club in Hollywood in '72 but i couldn't make it. I also saw Led Zepplin at the Long Beach arena in '72. That concert showed up on their 'How the West was Won' live album released a few years ago.
The Stones '73 show at the forum was a last minute thing. I remember MJ's hair cut short. I was mortified at the '75 show at the Stones forum show. And no I didn't go to church.

Wow. Must have been a cool time to see both of those bands. After seeing both in '72, who put on the best show in your opinion? I am a fan of both bands and it seems they were both at their musical zenith then.

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I'm guessing he is just depressed from having recently gotten sober, having a tough time dealing with all the feelings he's suppressed all those years and just wishing he could feel better. I imagine that shit is harder than anything he has ever done before.

peace

Could very well be the case Naturalist. But how strongly would playing with the RS on a SF-tour ease the pain? I guess very strongly.

Well, time for me to go in Taylor/Stones rehab myself. I'm getting more and more depressed. Time to listen to the glorious, ever exciting music from MT's era, musing about the Stones concert with Taylor I attended in Rotterdam 1973, one of the biggest musical sensations of my life (boy, was the show in The Hague, 1976, a letdown!).

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Believe it or not I saw the Stones at the Long Beach Arena in '72 and the Forum in '72. They played a smaller club in Hollywood in '72 but i couldn't make it. I also saw Led Zepplin at the Long Beach arena in '72. That concert showed up on their 'How the West was Won' live album released a few years ago.
The Stones '73 show at the forum was a last minute thing. I remember MJ's hair cut short. I was mortified at the '75 show at the Stones forum show. And no I didn't go to church.

Wow. Must have been a cool time to see both of those bands. After seeing both in '72, who put on the best show in your opinion? I am a fan of both bands and it seems they were both at their musical zenith then.

peace

I always felt Zep's studio albums didn't translate well to their live performances. But they were on when I saw them in Long Beach. And the Stones were still early in the '72 tour..maybe their fourth show? I don't really like to compare bands and who is better. As a Stones fan I would have to say, between the two, the Stones performance was better because they were just hot during that era. But I saw Traffic the same year at the Santa Monica Civic and they were on. I saw the Who in 1973 at the Forum. I expected a Live at Leeds performance. But it didn't turn out that well. Keith Moon seemed to be out of sync and Townsend feeds off of Moon. And when they did a mid set of Quadrophenia it bombed. Didn't help either that Montose opened up for them. They smoked the The Who that night. All bands have bad nights. One of the best concerts I ever witnessed was UFO during their Lights Out Tour. Till this day it ranks as one of the best shows I have ever seen. Just as the Stones put out that wall of sound during their European 73 tour Michael Schenker and UFO did the same thing. I remember when MT quit the Stones. Michael Schenker tried out for his replacement. I didn't know who he was at the time but it was obvious, as I saw later, he was a lead guitarist and the Stones didn't need someone like that. It was a couple years later when I saw him with UFO. He wouldn't have lasted one week with the Stones. Keith would have kicked him out. That and he was only 18 and the Stones were hitting their 30s.



"It was a different time. And you can't go back. All you have is memories(depending on the number brain cells you have destroyed) and the albums.
And tickets were $12. Out front a scalper would sell you a ticket for $7."


Wow. That put things in a realistic perspective for me. Guess I knew that all along but remained foolishly hopeful. Not anymore.

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I'm guessing he is just depressed from having recently gotten sober, having a tough time dealing with all the feelings he's suppressed all those years and just wishing he could feel better. I imagine that shit is harder than anything he has ever done before.

peace

Could very well be the case Naturalist. But how strongly would playing with the RS on a SF-tour ease the pain? I guess very strongly.

Well, time for me to go in Taylor/Stones rehab myself. I'm getting more and more depressed. Time to listen to the glorious, ever exciting music from MT's era, musing about the Stones concert with Taylor I attended in Rotterdam 1973, one of the biggest musical sensations of my life (boy, was the show in The Hague, 1976, a letdown!).

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Maybe he just doesn't feel like playing? He doesn't care so much about 'capitalizing', as he has shown in the past, hasn't he? But I would like him to do a Sticky Fingers tour with a good band behind him. Would be much better than another boring Rolling Stones circus act.

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No Taylor Stones over, will not, for the first time ever go to the 2015 concerts. Will get in touch with MT and find our why he is not on the firm.

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Taylor quit the band 40 years ago. Deal with it.

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Taylor quit the band 40 years ago. Deal with it.

Why take that attitude, when it's highly doubtful that anyone in the Stones (besides Jagger, that is) feels that way?

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Taylor quit the band 40 years ago. Deal with it.

Why take that attitude, when it's highly doubtful that anyone in the Stones (besides Jagger, that is) feels that way?

Because every one else in the bands motives and those ascribed to them by posters here are really not known. It'a an exercise in futiliy, but what's known and obvious is that MT quit.....and the Stones remained, and cpontinue to do so.....

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Taylor quit the band 40 years ago. Deal with it.

Why take that attitude, when it's highly doubtful that anyone in the Stones (besides Jagger, that is) feels that way?

Because every one else in the bands motives and those ascribed to them by posters here are really not known. It'a an exercise in futiliy, but what's known and obvious is that MT quit.....and the Stones remained, and cpontinue to do so.....

Obviously because he came back for an entire tour, really added something special to a band who are still playing lots of songs that were popularized during his tenure, he apparently didn't quit this time around, and he would have welcomed some participation in this tour. Besides he plays guitar so much better than the other two Stones guitarists (in 2015) and some folks believe that his presence is needed to help fill in (with guitar) the many spaces that Keith used to play on but tends to leave wide open more recently.

I personally can't think of another thing they could still do to make this tour fulfilling, musically exciting and draw in the legions of fans from the golden era than invite him back. In fact the more I think about it, the more it makes sense, regardless of whether he quit the band or how much they have done since then. You may think this is nostalgic but nostalgia and The Rolling Stones are synonymous in 2015.

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I think a lot of us (though perhaps not a majority) feel this way. There is simply no compelling reason to see 60% of the band that made Sticky Fingers "celebrating" that album without one (actually two) of the band members who made it such a vital piece of work.

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I think a lot of us (though perhaps not a majority) feel this way. There is simply no compelling reason to see 60% of the band that made Sticky Fingers "celebrating" that album without one (actually two) of the band members who made it such a vital piece of work.

60% being more than half. Is that good enough? It crosses a gray area of fraud. Then again, the Stones have been pretending to be the 'Greatest RnR band in the world' established during their golden '69-'73 live performance era.

They've gotten away with it for over 40 years. Why stop pretending now?

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I THINK TAYLOR/RICHARDS WAS THE PERFECT COMBO. I JUST NEVER WARMED UP TO RON WOOD. I LIKE HIM BETTER WITH ROD STEWART. KEITH IS PULLING DOUBLE DUTY NOW. ROOD JUST FILLS THE GAPS

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I agree...There's too much lingering self-importance and vanity in the Stones camp. We all start off our endeavors wanting to make a lot of money and be well regarded but a certain time we realize that the people who supported us along the way are equally important. There are a lot of long-time fans that have supported the band for decades. The Stones should have tried harder to make MT part of the show. Hopefully they'll rethink or overrule an apparent 'business' decision for this tour...

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Just listened to Marc Maron's podcast with Keith...he's in Connecticut and just before he got on the phone he said he was re -learning Moonlight Mile...

[www.wtfpod.com]...