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vertigojoe
I wonder if Mick really regrets his cheapness in not giving MT any songwriting credits. He drove him away by doing this i believe.
Its a bit like a man having an affair with a beautiful young woman(Taylor), being inspired by her, wanting to be with her, but in the end opting to stay with his wife (Richards) despite the fact that the relationship is dead, he sure doesn't love her anymore but he's scared of losing the big house and social standing they have together.
But i guess thats Mick for you. Cash is King.
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DandelionPowderman
Taylor didn't starv. I'm pretty sure money wasn't in issue at all, when he quit the band.
Musical development, however, I presume was more important for him.
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DandelionPowderman
Taylor didn't starv. I'm pretty sure money wasn't in issue at all, when he quit the band.
Musical development, however, I presume was more important for him.
I reckon he had tough times which wouldn't have been so bad had he not been royally shafted by the Glimmers..
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DandelionPowderman
Taylor didn't starv. I'm pretty sure money wasn't in issue at all, when he quit the band.
Musical development, however, I presume was more important for him.
I reckon he had tough times which wouldn't have been so bad had he not been royally shafted by the Glimmers..
That's your guess, though, as Taylor never has stated this.
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His Majesty
Ruby Tuesday was part of a double A side really. A strong single release after the mixed reception to Have You Seen Your Mother/Who's Driving Your Plane?Quote
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That "Winter instead preferably should be left unreleased, makes me want to remind you of the question you spring over: Do you prefer "Hot Stuff" to "Winter as single material?
Hot Stuff is awful, I wish I could banish it from the world of music.
Neither song is good single material.
"Hot Stuff" was a number ONE hit in France back in 1976...
- Doxa
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vertigojoe
I wonder if Mick really regrets his cheapness in not giving MT any songwriting credits. He drove him away by doing this i believe.
Its a bit like a man having an affair with a beautiful young woman(Taylor), being inspired by her, wanting to be with her, but in the end opting to stay with his wife (Richards) despite the fact that the relationship is dead, he sure doesn't love her anymore but he's scared of losing the big house and social standing they have together.
But i guess thats Mick for you. Cash is King.
No, Career is King.
That money income has become dominant sucess criterium for career, instead of only one of more criteria, is a blame that can be attributed to their audiences at large and to some extent to their record buyers that have shown comparatively little interest in the issues from the latter part of their existence as band. Because that fact has contributed to taking away much of their incentives to be creative and consider other aspects than money income.
The comparison Taylor - Richards is then what and whom Mick Jagger could trust in a long time career perspective?
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His Majesty
Ruby Tuesday was part of a double A side really. A strong single release after the mixed reception to Have You Seen Your Mother/Who's Driving Your Plane?Quote
Witness
That "Winter instead preferably should be left unreleased, makes me want to remind you of the question you spring over: Do you prefer "Hot Stuff" to "Winter as single material?
Hot Stuff is awful, I wish I could banish it from the world of music.
Neither song is good single material.
"Hot Stuff" was a number ONE hit in France back in 1976...
- Doxa
And well deserved if you ask me.
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FortuneTeller800
Moonlight Mile - one of the greatest Stonestracks ever.
redhotcarpet, that last post of yours is a bit over the top.
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His Majesty
Ruby Tuesday was part of a double A side really. A strong single release after the mixed reception to Have You Seen Your Mother/Who's Driving Your Plane?Quote
Witness
That "Winter instead preferably should be left unreleased, makes me want to remind you of the question you spring over: Do you prefer "Hot Stuff" to "Winter as single material?
Hot Stuff is awful, I wish I could banish it from the world of music.
Neither song is good single material.
"Hot Stuff" was a number ONE hit in France back in 1976...
- Doxa
And well deserved if you ask me.
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FortuneTeller800
Moonlight Mile - one of the greatest Stonestracks ever.
redhotcarpet, that last post of yours is a bit over the top.
They always are, ignore mine and read the others.
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LeonidP
There's a new show, just release on Netflix: 3 Body Problem. Episode 2 features a clip of Moonlight Mile!
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vertigojoe
I wonder if Mick really regrets his cheapness in not giving MT any songwriting credits. He drove him away by doing this i believe.
Its a bit like a man having an affair with a beautiful young woman(Taylor), being inspired by her, wanting to be with her, but in the end opting to stay with his wife (Richards) despite the fact that the relationship is dead, he sure doesn't love her anymore but he's scared of losing the big house and social standing they have together.
But i guess thats Mick for you. Cash is King.
In those days they didn’t have anywhere near the money they have today, maybe that was a factor in giving writer credit.Recently they gave Taylor writer credit for Criss Cross and Andrew Watt for the 3songs on Hackney DiamondsQuote
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vertigojoe
I wonder if Mick really regrets his cheapness in not giving MT any songwriting credits. He drove him away by doing this i believe.
Its a bit like a man having an affair with a beautiful young woman(Taylor), being inspired by her, wanting to be with her, but in the end opting to stay with his wife (Richards) despite the fact that the relationship is dead, he sure doesn't love her anymore but he's scared of losing the big house and social standing they have together.
But i guess thats Mick for you. Cash is King.
He didn't necessarily have to break with Keith, only to give Taylor the credits he deserved. Also, Keith might have been a junkie by that time, he was just as much responsible for not giving Taylor credits.
The only problem is: where does the jam or the contribution start and the songwriting begin? Did Wyman deserve credits for the JJF riff? Did Brian Jones deserve credit for the sitar in Paint It Black?
I guess with the Stones, if the original idea came from either Jagger or Richards, then it was a Richards/Jagger composition, never mind if the rest contributed in a large way to the final song.
The Beatles more or less operated in the same way.