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True. Nor would it exist in its factual form without Paul Buckmaster
Yep, but without Taylor there wouldn't be no Paul B.
We don't know that for sure, as he also provided strings on Sway
That has nothing to do with MM. But let's talk about Sway then, one of the four greatest songs on SF. Just only Jagger and 'inspiration' by Taylor, or does the music lead us to another conclusion.
Lets not forget Mr Jimmy Miller
In the summer and fall of 1970, Miller and the Rolling Stones were busy crafting the album Sticky Fingers. This project would take Miller and the Stones out of Olympic Studio, as the album was recorded largely using the Stones' mobile recording truck at Mick Jagger's country estate, Stargroves. Sticky Fingers has a more textured sound than the previous Stones albums Miller worked on. Stargroves' wooden floors and high ceilings might have added a natural ambiance to the recordings' overall sound. Among the tracks that feature Miller's unique contributions are "Brown Sugar," "Moonlight Mile," and especially "Can't You Hear Me Knocking." Like "Jumpin Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk Women," "Brown Sugar" is an instant Stones classic that benefits from Miller's ability to integrate crisp layers of sound and rhythm within the music. "Moonlight Mile" features layers of instrumentation that provide a certain airy quality. In "Can't You Hear Me Knocking," Miller's use of percussion establishes a funky soul groove that helped the Stones enter new stylistic territory.
Didn't we conclude that those quotes are not very much worth and that the music is a much better source to use?
I agree. On Sway it is obvious, more so than on MM, that it is a Jagger song, imo. Taylor´s contributions are the solos. The rest is pretty straight rock: the melody lines, the guitar riff/straight-forward rhythm guitar and the two-chord chorus.
Sway will still be Sway without the guitar solos, although they are very well performed
Well, "Salt of the Earth" and "Can't Always Get" are not very slow by the time they end... but "All About You" is.
But in a way STICKY FINGERS with "Mile" continues the tendency of ending an album with an epic, long song like BEGGARS BANQUET and LET IT BLEED did.
- Doxa
Neither is MM in places, but it's still a slow song
Yeah, I forgot All About You, aka "The Train Song" - thanks! Keith sure has funny working titles
TWFNO is in the middle of the album, fifth track in.
As doxa has already pointed out Salt and YCAGWYW are hardly "slow"..and the others you point out either reside at the end of side 1 or are after 1971....
It was rare in 1971 DP..
but u will argue otherwise as you are the "fonzie" on this board...I.e. you are never wrong...
Whoa...
The quotes about Sway seem to fit with what I hear and I don't see any contradictions coming from their memories.
Been listening intently to Sticky Fingers due to this thread. It really is an amazing album, wonderful textures and atmosphere. It lacks the naivety of earlier albums, which I miss, but the loss of innocence is replaced by a distinctive inner reflection.
The continuing story of the character found earlier in No Expectations?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-11-23 13:57 by His Majesty.
Could very well be the case. Is it coincidence that it's one of Taylor's favorite Stones songs?
Personaly I would say SF is their best album, eventhough I cannot say I love it the most. I compared it earlier to Abbey Road, imo the best Beatles album.
Btw: which songs on SF do you like the most?
I'd say it's further down the road to maturity. Unlike before the girls are not portrayed as stupid, but desired and missed.
The recurring theme of the album is the traveller, his time alone, his distance from a loved one and the emotional roller coaster of such situations.
Thanks
I think it might be, it hangs together well musically, emotionally, thematically and as a piece of cool as @#$%& sounding entertainment.
Many ways to connect to it.
The most? I'll get back to you on that.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-11-23 16:23 by His Majesty.
Okay, I'll pick 5 out of 10:
Sway
Wild Horses
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
I Got The Blues
Moonlight Mile
Familiarity has dulled Brown Sugar and Wild Horses a bit. I like Sway, but have long viewed it as a bridge between the two big tracks which surround it.
The last three on your list are definietly in the like the most list.
Great point. Alos, "I Got the Blues" is on the same level if not higher than any other song on SF.
Indeed. And the leftovers still made a 'decent' album next year...
I also tried to think the 'most I like' list, but really couldn't compose one... The quality is simply so high and every track is perfect in their own terms. Probably "Brown Sugar", "Wild Horses" and "Moonlight Mile" are the obvious highlights, but the rest really don't shame at all compared to them. "Sway", "Bitch", "Knocking", "Dead Flowers"... terrific songs. Probably the weakest ones are "You Gotta Move" and "Sister Morphine" but shit, even they are damn strong and fascinating cuts. The crucial difference to EXILE ON MAIN STREET is that the tracks work better individually, if taken out of context. Somehow the greatness of EXILE is that the wholeness is bigger than its individual parts, and the songs need that context to really work. But STICKY FINGERS is really a 'best of' album - a collection of individually great songs.
- Doxa
Why not, HM? I love Dead FLowers, it's such a fun song, a great to sing-a-long. It was a brillant move to place it after I Got The Blues and Sister Morphine, two very somber songs. It lightens the mood...and then you get the gorgeous Moonlight Mile to take you home.
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Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 22, 2013 15:46
Quote
kleermaker
Fact is that without Taylor this song wouldn't exist in its factual form.
True. Nor would it exist in its factual form without Paul Buckmaster
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: November 22, 2013 16:34
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermaker
Fact is that without Taylor this song wouldn't exist in its factual form.
True. Nor would it exist in its factual form without Paul Buckmaster
Yep, but without Taylor there wouldn't be no Paul B.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 22, 2013 16:41
Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermaker
Fact is that without Taylor this song wouldn't exist in its factual form.
True. Nor would it exist in its factual form without Paul Buckmaster
Yep, but without Taylor there wouldn't be no Paul B.
We don't know that for sure, as he also provided strings on Sway
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: November 22, 2013 16:50
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermaker
Fact is that without Taylor this song wouldn't exist in its factual form.
True. Nor would it exist in its factual form without Paul Buckmaster
Yep, but without Taylor there wouldn't be no Paul B.
We don't know that for sure, as he also provided strings on Sway
That has nothing to do with MM. But let's talk about Sway then, one of the four greatest songs on SF. Just only Jagger and 'inspiration' by Taylor, or does the music lead us to another conclusion.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
runaway
()
Date: November 22, 2013 17:00
Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermaker
Fact is that without Taylor this song wouldn't exist in its factual form.
True. Nor would it exist in its factual form without Paul Buckmaster
Yep, but without Taylor there wouldn't be no Paul B.
We don't know that for sure, as he also provided strings on Sway
That has nothing to do with MM. But let's talk about Sway then, one of the four greatest songs on SF. Just only Jagger and 'inspiration' by Taylor, or does the music lead us to another conclusion.
Lets not forget Mr Jimmy Miller
In the summer and fall of 1970, Miller and the Rolling Stones were busy crafting the album Sticky Fingers. This project would take Miller and the Stones out of Olympic Studio, as the album was recorded largely using the Stones' mobile recording truck at Mick Jagger's country estate, Stargroves. Sticky Fingers has a more textured sound than the previous Stones albums Miller worked on. Stargroves' wooden floors and high ceilings might have added a natural ambiance to the recordings' overall sound. Among the tracks that feature Miller's unique contributions are "Brown Sugar," "Moonlight Mile," and especially "Can't You Hear Me Knocking." Like "Jumpin Jack Flash" and "Honky Tonk Women," "Brown Sugar" is an instant Stones classic that benefits from Miller's ability to integrate crisp layers of sound and rhythm within the music. "Moonlight Mile" features layers of instrumentation that provide a certain airy quality. In "Can't You Hear Me Knocking," Miller's use of percussion establishes a funky soul groove that helped the Stones enter new stylistic territory.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 22, 2013 17:02
"I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song"
- Mick Taylor 2011
- Mick Taylor 2011
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
Eleanor Rigby
()
Date: November 22, 2013 17:25
I always thought it was a gutsy song to end a truly brilliant album.
Slow songs to end were rare.
Perfect ending for Sticky Fingers.
I think its the band's best album..
Slow songs to end were rare.
Perfect ending for Sticky Fingers.
I think its the band's best album..
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: November 22, 2013 17:57
Quote
DandelionPowderman
"I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song"
- Mick Taylor 2011
Didn't we conclude that those quotes are not very much worth and that the music is a much better source to use?
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 22, 2013 18:34
Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowderman
"I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song"
- Mick Taylor 2011
Didn't we conclude that those quotes are not very much worth and that the music is a much better source to use?
I agree. On Sway it is obvious, more so than on MM, that it is a Jagger song, imo. Taylor´s contributions are the solos. The rest is pretty straight rock: the melody lines, the guitar riff/straight-forward rhythm guitar and the two-chord chorus.
Sway will still be Sway without the guitar solos, although they are very well performed
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: November 22, 2013 18:36
Quote
DandelionPowdermanQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowderman
"I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song"
- Mick Taylor 2011
Didn't we conclude that those quotes are not very much worth and that the music is a much better source to use?
I agree. On Sway it is obvious, more so than on MM, that it is a Jagger song, imo. Taylor´s contributions are the solos. The rest is pretty straight rock: the melody lines, the guitar riff/straight-forward rhythm guitar and the two-chord chorus.
Sway will still be Sway without the guitar solos, although they are very well performed
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 22, 2013 18:38
<Slow songs to end were rare.>
Not for the Stones:
Salt Of The Earth
You Can´t Always Get What You Want
Moonlight Mile
Time Waits For No One
Waiting On A Friend
Sleep Tonight
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
Not for the Stones:
Salt Of The Earth
You Can´t Always Get What You Want
Moonlight Mile
Time Waits For No One
Waiting On A Friend
Sleep Tonight
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: November 22, 2013 21:55
Quote
DandelionPowderman
<Slow songs to end were rare.>
Not for the Stones:
Salt Of The Earth
You Can´t Always Get What You Want
Moonlight Mile
Time Waits For No One
Waiting On A Friend
Sleep Tonight
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
Well, "Salt of the Earth" and "Can't Always Get" are not very slow by the time they end... but "All About You" is.
But in a way STICKY FINGERS with "Mile" continues the tendency of ending an album with an epic, long song like BEGGARS BANQUET and LET IT BLEED did.
- Doxa
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 22, 2013 23:55
Quote
DoxaQuote
DandelionPowderman
<Slow songs to end were rare.>
Not for the Stones:
Salt Of The Earth
You Can´t Always Get What You Want
Moonlight Mile
Time Waits For No One
Waiting On A Friend
Sleep Tonight
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
Well, "Salt of the Earth" and "Can't Always Get" are not very slow by the time they end... but "All About You" is.
But in a way STICKY FINGERS with "Mile" continues the tendency of ending an album with an epic, long song like BEGGARS BANQUET and LET IT BLEED did.
- Doxa
Neither is MM in places, but it's still a slow song
Yeah, I forgot All About You, aka "The Train Song" - thanks! Keith sure has funny working titles
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
stonehearted
()
Date: November 23, 2013 03:00
Quote
DandelionPowderman
<Slow songs to end were rare.>
Not for the Stones:
Salt Of The Earth
You Can´t Always Get What You Want
Moonlight Mile
Time Waits For No One
Waiting On A Friend
Sleep Tonight
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
TWFNO is in the middle of the album, fifth track in.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
Eleanor Rigby
()
Date: November 23, 2013 13:46
Quote
DandelionPowderman
<Slow songs to end were rare.>
Not for the Stones:
Salt Of The Earth
You Can´t Always Get What You Want
Moonlight Mile
Time Waits For No One
Waiting On A Friend
Sleep Tonight
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
As doxa has already pointed out Salt and YCAGWYW are hardly "slow"..and the others you point out either reside at the end of side 1 or are after 1971....
It was rare in 1971 DP..
but u will argue otherwise as you are the "fonzie" on this board...I.e. you are never wrong...
Whoa...
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: November 23, 2013 13:53
Quote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowderman
"I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song"
- Mick Taylor 2011
Didn't we conclude that those quotes are not very much worth and that the music is a much better source to use?
The quotes about Sway seem to fit with what I hear and I don't see any contradictions coming from their memories.
Been listening intently to Sticky Fingers due to this thread. It really is an amazing album, wonderful textures and atmosphere. It lacks the naivety of earlier albums, which I miss, but the loss of innocence is replaced by a distinctive inner reflection.
The continuing story of the character found earlier in No Expectations?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-11-23 13:57 by His Majesty.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
Eleanor Rigby
()
Date: November 23, 2013 14:30
His M..I agree completely here..
Innocence is gone..replaced by maturity.
Innocence is gone..replaced by maturity.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: November 23, 2013 15:16
Quote
His MajestyQuote
kleermakerQuote
DandelionPowderman
"I added my solo to Sway, but it's very much Mick's song"
- Mick Taylor 2011
Didn't we conclude that those quotes are not very much worth and that the music is a much better source to use?
The quotes about Sway seem to fit with what I hear and I don't see any contradictions coming from their memories.
Been listening intently to Sticky Fingers due to this thread. It really is an amazing album, wonderful textures and atmosphere. It lacks the naivety of earlier albums, which I miss, but the loss of innocence is replaced by a distinctive inner reflection.
The continuing story of the character found earlier in No Expectations?
Could very well be the case. Is it coincidence that it's one of Taylor's favorite Stones songs?
Personaly I would say SF is their best album, eventhough I cannot say I love it the most. I compared it earlier to Abbey Road, imo the best Beatles album.
Btw: which songs on SF do you like the most?
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: November 23, 2013 16:02
Quote
Eleanor Rigby
His M..I agree completely here..
Innocence is gone..replaced by maturity.
I'd say it's further down the road to maturity. Unlike before the girls are not portrayed as stupid, but desired and missed.
The recurring theme of the album is the traveller, his time alone, his distance from a loved one and the emotional roller coaster of such situations.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 23, 2013 16:11
Quote
Eleanor RigbyQuote
DandelionPowderman
<Slow songs to end were rare.>
Not for the Stones:
Salt Of The Earth
You Can´t Always Get What You Want
Moonlight Mile
Time Waits For No One
Waiting On A Friend
Sleep Tonight
Slipping Away
How Can I Stop
As doxa has already pointed out Salt and YCAGWYW are hardly "slow"..and the others you point out either reside at the end of side 1 or are after 1971....
It was rare in 1971 DP..
but u will argue otherwise as you are the "fonzie" on this board...I.e. you are never wrong...
Whoa...
Thanks
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: November 23, 2013 16:18
Quote
kleermaker
Could very well be the case. Is it coincidence that it's one of Taylor's favorite Stones songs?
Personaly I would say SF is their best album, eventhough I cannot say I love it the most. I compared it earlier to Abbey Road, imo the best Beatles album.
Btw: which songs on SF do you like the most?
I think it might be, it hangs together well musically, emotionally, thematically and as a piece of cool as @#$%& sounding entertainment.
Many ways to connect to it.
The most? I'll get back to you on that.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 2013-11-23 16:23 by His Majesty.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
kleermaker
()
Date: November 23, 2013 17:32
Quote
His MajestyQuote
kleermaker
Could very well be the case. Is it coincidence that it's one of Taylor's favorite Stones songs?
Personaly I would say SF is their best album, eventhough I cannot say I love it the most. I compared it earlier to Abbey Road, imo the best Beatles album.
Btw: which songs on SF do you like the most?
I think it might be, it hangs together well musically, emotionally, thematically and as a piece of cool as @#$%& sounding entertainment.
Many ways to connect to it.
The most? I'll get back to you on that.
Okay, I'll pick 5 out of 10:
Sway
Wild Horses
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
I Got The Blues
Moonlight Mile
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: November 23, 2013 17:46
Quote
kleermaker
Okay, I'll pick 5 out of 10:
Sway
Wild Horses
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
I Got The Blues
Moonlight Mile
Familiarity has dulled Brown Sugar and Wild Horses a bit. I like Sway, but have long viewed it as a bridge between the two big tracks which surround it.
The last three on your list are definietly in the like the most list.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
Chris Fountain
()
Date: November 23, 2013 18:04
Quote
His MajestyQuote
kleermaker
Okay, I'll pick 5 out of 10:
Sway
Wild Horses
Can't You Hear Me Knocking
I Got The Blues
Moonlight Mile
Familiarity has dulled Brown Sugar and Wild Horses a bit. I like Sway, but have long viewed it as a bridge between the two big tracks which surround it.
The last three on your list are definietly in the like the most list.
Great point. Alos, "I Got the Blues" is on the same level if not higher than any other song on SF.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
DandelionPowderman
()
Date: November 23, 2013 20:25
Bitch should be in the top three, imo.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
treaclefingers
()
Date: November 23, 2013 20:28
Rather amazing that all the songs are of such high quality that it's so difficult to decide on a top 5. It really is a 'greatest hits' album.
Maybe we could call it the 'Greatest Hits of the Rolling Stones, 1971-71' ?
Maybe we could call it the 'Greatest Hits of the Rolling Stones, 1971-71' ?
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
TimeWaitsforNooooOne
()
Date: November 23, 2013 20:33
most beautiful song.
love it.
artists are pioneers.
wish, jagger would kick his fashion-girlie (for a certain period of time) somewhere and get back to the roots...
without MT no cool Stones-Future!
love it.
artists are pioneers.
wish, jagger would kick his fashion-girlie (for a certain period of time) somewhere and get back to the roots...
without MT no cool Stones-Future!
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
Doxa
()
Date: November 24, 2013 14:47
Quote
treaclefingers
Rather amazing that all the songs are of such high quality that it's so difficult to decide on a top 5. It really is a 'greatest hits' album.
Maybe we could call it the 'Greatest Hits of the Rolling Stones, 1971-71' ?
Indeed. And the leftovers still made a 'decent' album next year...
I also tried to think the 'most I like' list, but really couldn't compose one... The quality is simply so high and every track is perfect in their own terms. Probably "Brown Sugar", "Wild Horses" and "Moonlight Mile" are the obvious highlights, but the rest really don't shame at all compared to them. "Sway", "Bitch", "Knocking", "Dead Flowers"... terrific songs. Probably the weakest ones are "You Gotta Move" and "Sister Morphine" but shit, even they are damn strong and fascinating cuts. The crucial difference to EXILE ON MAIN STREET is that the tracks work better individually, if taken out of context. Somehow the greatness of EXILE is that the wholeness is bigger than its individual parts, and the songs need that context to really work. But STICKY FINGERS is really a 'best of' album - a collection of individually great songs.
- Doxa
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
His Majesty
()
Date: November 24, 2013 15:08
Not keen on Dead Flowers, that's the weakest point in the album for me.
It acts as a nice mood change inbetween Sister Morphone and Moonlight Mile. Fine in context of the album, not something I'd choose to listen to on it's own.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-11-24 15:22 by His Majesty.
It acts as a nice mood change inbetween Sister Morphone and Moonlight Mile. Fine in context of the album, not something I'd choose to listen to on it's own.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-11-24 15:22 by His Majesty.
Re: Track Talk: Moonlight Mile
Posted by:
latebloomer
()
Date: November 24, 2013 15:21
Quote
His Majesty
Not keen on Dead Flowers, that's the weakest point in the album for me.
Why not, HM? I love Dead FLowers, it's such a fun song, a great to sing-a-long. It was a brillant move to place it after I Got The Blues and Sister Morphine, two very somber songs. It lightens the mood...and then you get the gorgeous Moonlight Mile to take you home.
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