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Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: March 31, 2013 15:08

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tatters
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Roadster32

Nobody points a gun at your head.


True. No one is being forced to go, but many of us are being forced not to go.

Well, that's the law of the market!

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Dreamer ()
Date: March 31, 2013 15:09

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tatters
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Roadster32

Nobody points a gun at your head.


True. No one is being forced to go, but many of us are being forced not to go.

That's what this is all about...
For me: I would not pay those ridiculous prices.
55 pounds for Bruce is fair and he is giving a very very good show for that.
Yes, the market...but you can not hide behind that. There is also an international financial crisis and together with those far too high prices it creates a situation in which many true and loyal fans are being forced not to go.
Now let's assume you're a Rolling Stone...would you feel comfortable with not doing anything about that??

If you are a Rolling Stone: it is in your power to arrange things like Bruce does.
So do something about it and not just for Hyde Park but for all shows.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2013-03-31 15:15 by Dreamer.

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: March 31, 2013 15:26

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Dreamer
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tatters
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Roadster32

Nobody points a gun at your head.


True. No one is being forced to go, but many of us are being forced not to go.

That's what this is all about...
For me: I would not pay those ridiculous prices.
55 pounds for Bruce is fair and he is giving a very very good show for that.
Yes, the market...but you can not hide behind that. There is also an international financial crisis and together with those far too high prices it creates a situation in which many true and loyal fans are being forced not to go.
Now let's assume you're a Rolling Stone...would you feel comfortable with not doing anything about that??

If you are a Rolling Stone: it is in your power to arrange things like Bruce does.
So do something about it and not just for Hyde Park but for all shows.

Yep, agree.
But as there are still so many willing to pay this prices, why lower them.
And just sentimental arguements don't count these days.

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: MGetzner ()
Date: March 31, 2013 15:32

Justin bieber played vienna's stadthalle last evening. Regular ticket price ranges were 65 up to 365 eur! This is absolutely ridiculous for a 19 yrs old guy who can't sing or make any kind of music.
So let's forget stones ticket prices and enjoy the waiting time until wednesday!!

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 31, 2013 15:44

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MGetzner
Justin bieber played vienna's stadthalle last evening. Regular ticket price ranges were 65 up to 365 eur! This is absolutely ridiculous for a 19 yrs old guy who can't sing or make any kind of music.
So let's forget stones ticket prices and enjoy the waiting time until wednesday!!

well, bieber has to charge this, because he doesn´t know if he´s still around next year (i mean as an artist), next thing is, biebers tickets ain´t sold to the people who want to go, kids, the parents have to pay for, and we love our children, do we?

so it was good that i wasn´t in 15th district yesterday winking smiley

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: March 31, 2013 15:57

Let's put the ticket prices in perspective. For example, if you were to take a family of four to a Marlins, Hurricanes, or even a Dolphins game or any sporting event for that manner the costs would add up to a $145 tab easily. And these events are played on a regular basis.

Beer $30
Tickets $70 or more
Parking $20
Other concessions at least $25

My point, I do not mind paying $500 to see them as they only perform every 3-4 years.

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:01

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I thought it was slightly obnoxious and dismissive of a number of true fan’s opinions and feelings, based purely on economic circumstance. And that really isn’t what music is about, well, like I said, in my opinion, it isnt anyway, feel free to disagree…

All he did was ask to not use the "Countdown to The Rolling Stones 2013 Tour" thread for the complaints.

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:07

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I thought it was slightly obnoxious and dismissive of a number of true fan’s opinions and feelings, based purely on economic circumstance. And that really isn’t what music is about, well, like I said, in my opinion, it isnt anyway, feel free to disagree…

All he did was ask to not use the "Countdown to The Rolling Stones 2013 Tour" thread for the complaints.

No, he asked that all complaints, about ticket prices or anything else, be in this thread.

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:14

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tatters
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I thought it was slightly obnoxious and dismissive of a number of true fan’s opinions and feelings, based purely on economic circumstance. And that really isn’t what music is about, well, like I said, in my opinion, it isnt anyway, feel free to disagree…

All he did was ask to not use the "Countdown to The Rolling Stones 2013 Tour" thread for the complaints.

No, he asked that all complaints, about ticket prices or anything else, be in this thread.


Parrots OK?





The fact that this parrot is a Norwegian Blue is a mere but definite coincidence...........grinning smiley



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Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: tatters ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:14

Okay. I have a complaint. I went out to dinner Friday night to get a nice piece of fish for Good Friday, and I was still in the middle of eating my dinner at closing time, so of course they allowed me to stay and finish, but they turned the heat down and I had to sit there freezing my ass off as I rushed to finish my salmon!

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:21

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tatters
Okay. I have a complaint. I went out to dinner Friday night to get a nice piece of fish for Good Friday, and I was still in the middle of eating my dinner at closing time, so of course they allowed me to stay and finish, but they turned the heat down and I had to sit there freezing my ass off as I rushed to finish my salmon!

Was it North American Samon? It's the best! Allitle tartar sauce and Bingo! Sue the restaruant!!

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: bv ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:22

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tatters

No, he asked that all complaints, about ticket prices or anything else, be in this thread.

Correct. If there is a thread aboiut a subject then please use that thread. In this case it is quite clear. Some people want to complain about ticket prices. fair enough. This is the thread.

If you are invited to a wedding, and spend most of the edding day talking to everyone how expensivewedding presents are, gthe you are messing up the wedding day, not only for the two who are wedding, but also for other guests. It is a bout manners. Some people simply d not have manners. They have to complain about how miserable life is upon them, in all places. In bars, at concerts, in the IORR forum threads, to thei friends, brothers, sisters, everywhere. I think that is v ery selfish and introverted. I have many friends in Africa. They spend their day finding ater and food. There are 60% unemployment rate. But they do not have PCs and they do not complain about how bad life is. They thank God for their family and all the happiness they have got in life, regardless of material values that have been brought to them.

I will keep saying this as long as I live. Life is unfair. But it will be even more unfair if you do not look at it from the bright side. If you are broke, I mean real real broke, then find a sponsor, find a friend, or climb a fence. I went to my first Stones show in 1973. I was totally broke, but I managed to get two tickets and a bus ride from Oslo to Gothenburg for both me and my girl fiend (still my wife these days). It is all about priority. Like it or not. For me the Stones come before family, work, weddings, everything else in life. My family do know it. I cancelled all other plans last year when they did the shows then. I disappeared from work and family life. It is possibe but please do not blame your own frustrations and priority on everyone else in new threads...

Feel free to discuss tcket prices here...

Bjornulf

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:33

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tatters

No, he asked that all complaints, about ticket prices or anything else, be in this thread.

Correct. If there is a thread aboiut a subject then please use that thread. In this case it is quite clear. Some people want to complain about ticket prices. fair enough. This is the thread.

If you are invited to a wedding, and spend most of the edding day talking to everyone how expensivewedding presents are, gthe you are messing up the wedding day, not only for the two who are wedding, but also for other guests. It is a bout manners. Some people simply d not have manners. They have to complain about how miserable life is upon them, in all places. In bars, at concerts, in the IORR forum threads, to thei friends, brothers, sisters, everywhere. I think that is v ery selfish and introverted. I have many friends in Africa. They spend their day finding ater and food. There are 60% unemployment rate. But they do not have PCs and they do not complain about how bad life is. They thank God for their family and all the happiness they have got in life, regardless of material values that have been brought to them.

I will keep saying this as long as I live. Life is unfair. But it will be even more unfair if you do not look at it from the bright side. If you are broke, I mean real real broke, then find a sponsor, find a friend, or climb a fence. I went to my first Stones show in 1973. I was totally broke, but I managed to get two tickets and a bus ride from Oslo to Gothenburg for both me and my girl fiend (still my wife these days). It is all about priority. Like it or not. For me the Stones come before family, work, weddings, everything else in life. My family do know it. I cancelled all other plans last year when they did the shows then. I disappeared from work and family life. It is possibe but please do not blame your own frustrations and priority on everyone else in new threads...

Feel free to discuss tcket prices here...

I'm going -regardless. I hope the Intro is the same as the opening for the November & December concerts I like the drummers! And Get off My Coud as the Opener and some "oldies mixed in!! I hope they include S. Florida!! on new tour!

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: duke richardson ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:43

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bv
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tatters

No, he asked that all complaints, about ticket prices or anything else, be in this thread.

Correct. If there is a thread aboiut a subject then please use that thread. In this case it is quite clear. Some people want to complain about ticket prices. fair enough. This is the thread.

If you are invited to a wedding, and spend most of the edding day talking to everyone how expensivewedding presents are, gthe you are messing up the wedding day, not only for the two who are wedding, but also for other guests. It is a bout manners. Some people simply d not have manners. They have to complain about how miserable life is upon them, in all places. In bars, at concerts, in the IORR forum threads, to thei friends, brothers, sisters, everywhere. I think that is v ery selfish and introverted. I have many friends in Africa. They spend their day finding ater and food. There are 60% unemployment rate. But they do not have PCs and they do not complain about how bad life is. They thank God for their family and all the happiness they have got in life, regardless of material values that have been brought to them.

I will keep saying this as long as I live. Life is unfair. But it will be even more unfair if you do not look at it from the bright side. If you are broke, I mean real real broke, then find a sponsor, find a friend, or climb a fence. I went to my first Stones show in 1973. I was totally broke, but I managed to get two tickets and a bus ride from Oslo to Gothenburg for both me and my girl fiend (still my wife these days). It is all about priority. Like it or not. For me the Stones come before family, work, weddings, everything else in life. My family do know it. I cancelled all other plans last year when they did the shows then. I disappeared from work and family life. It is possibe but please do not blame your own frustrations and priority on everyone else in new threads...

Feel free to discuss tcket prices here...

its one thing to be broke in 1973 and scrape up the money for tickets to a Stones show..

quite another to do the same in 2013.

glad they are making the effort to go back out, it means a lot to me, to lifelong Stones fans, even if a great many of us can't afford to go.

the Stones know this I'm sure.

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: GRNRBITW ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:43

could we please have a thread dedicated to the complaints of the prices of wedding presents?

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:48

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GRNRBITW
could we please have a thread dedicated to the complaints of the prices of wedding presents?

No...just buy them a colender, everyone needs a colender...............

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: GRNRBITW ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:50

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EddieByword
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GRNRBITW
could we please have a thread dedicated to the complaints of the prices of wedding presents?

No...just buy them a colender, everyone needs a colender...............

yeah, but most of them leak.

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: Chris Fountain ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:53

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GRNRBITW
could we please have a thread dedicated to the complaints of the prices of wedding presents?

Weddings or Marige never last; the flame always end. just like a candle. Especiallly after 8 years unless you take viagra just to have sex to keep things going.

IMHO- never buy wedding gifts. But always buy Dead Flowers for funeralstongue sticking out smiley

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Dreamer ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:53

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Roadster32
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Dreamer
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tatters
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Roadster32

Nobody points a gun at your head.


True. No one is being forced to go, but many of us are being forced not to go.

That's what this is all about...
For me: I would not pay those ridiculous prices.
55 pounds for Bruce is fair and he is giving a very very good show for that.
Yes, the market...but you can not hide behind that. There is also an international financial crisis and together with those far too high prices it creates a situation in which many true and loyal fans are being forced not to go.
Now let's assume you're a Rolling Stone...would you feel comfortable with not doing anything about that??

If you are a Rolling Stone: it is in your power to arrange things like Bruce does.
So do something about it and not just for Hyde Park but for all shows.

Yep, agree.
But as there are still so many willing to pay this prices, why lower them.
And just sentimental arguements don't count these days.



Every market has a risk.


As there are so few people asking for ridiculously high priced tickets, why make them so high?
As there will be many more true fans later this year complaining about ticket prices, why not listen to them today?

As there will be less and less people inside who really cheer for the RS because they know all their songs, why ....

As there will be more and more people going to the restrooms when Keith is playing because they don't know the songs he's singing, why....

As there will only be shows for an arena filled with people who are just there because they can afford it, why....

As there will hardly be an old fashioned fan filled arena to perform in why... .

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: GRNRBITW ()
Date: March 31, 2013 16:55

maybe we could simplify things and just have a thread dedicated to complaining about bv?

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Roadster32 ()
Date: March 31, 2013 19:06

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Dreamer
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Roadster32
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Dreamer
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tatters
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Roadster32

Nobody points a gun at your head.


True. No one is being forced to go, but many of us are being forced not to go.

That's what this is all about...
For me: I would not pay those ridiculous prices.
55 pounds for Bruce is fair and he is giving a very very good show for that.
Yes, the market...but you can not hide behind that. There is also an international financial crisis and together with those far too high prices it creates a situation in which many true and loyal fans are being forced not to go.
Now let's assume you're a Rolling Stone...would you feel comfortable with not doing anything about that??

If you are a Rolling Stone: it is in your power to arrange things like Bruce does.
So do something about it and not just for Hyde Park but for all shows.

Yep, agree.
But as there are still so many willing to pay this prices, why lower them.
And just sentimental arguements don't count these days.



Every market has a risk.


As there are so few people asking for ridiculously high priced tickets, why make them so high?
As there will be many more true fans later this year complaining about ticket prices, why not listen to them today?

As there will be less and less people inside who really cheer for the RS because they know all their songs, why ....

As there will be more and more people going to the restrooms when Keith is playing because they don't know the songs he's singing, why....

As there will only be shows for an arena filled with people who are just there because they can afford it, why....

As there will hardly be an old fashioned fan filled arena to perform in why... .

Why? You don't really want to know why, will you?
Wake up!!!
They're not mother Theresa or a band that was just formed yesterday.
The Rolling Stones is a multi million $$$ company, that just is maxamizing their profits these days and they don't care (anymore) if you like it or not as long as there a enough people willing to pay the prices they demand.

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: bluesinc. ()
Date: March 31, 2013 21:49

Why? You don't really want to know why, will you?
Wake up!!!
They're not mother Theresa or a band that was just formed yesterday.
The Rolling Stones is a multi million $$$ company, that just is maxamizing their profits these days and they don't care (anymore) if you like it or not as long as there a enough people willing to pay the prices they demand.[/quote]

well, sad, but maybe true...

and to say the least, family always comes first...at least the children

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: March 31, 2013 22:04

Is this the correct place to talk about ticket prices?

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: Doxa ()
Date: April 1, 2013 04:03

I really can't make sense of BV's logic.

His presupposition - pretty obvious - seems to be that only those people can "complain" who have not afford to get the tickets for Rolling Stones shows. And since this - a Stones tour, IORR? - is a "wedding", that kind of talk is not tolareted to spoil the party (besides in this very thread.)

I can't really follow that logic. I can't see there anything personal if one views some current price of certain current product beyond reasonable currency. Or if one views the whole practise in question being beyond out of reasonable justification. For me that only shows an ability to a critical, adult-like thought.

All I can say is that I see that adult-like is possible to to talk things if it is right for a Rolling Stones or any rock fan to ask such amounts of money to spend for such an entertainment, or should they - or, say, if it is fair that some country in Africa has 60% unemployment and people desperate having food (if this woould be a site to talk about that country and of such matters). The opposite is odd, if not, frightening, to me. I don't need to be in that position - a broke Stones fan, a poor African - to be vocal about it.

Actually it is pretty hard for me to sometimes understand that the most of the people writing here are people in - or approaching - their middle age (at least), and what is asked is a uncritical mindset of a teenager. A strange morphosis of teenager idolizing transforming to a wealthy elitism.

- Doxa

Re: The ticket prices and other compliants thread
Posted by: stonehearted ()
Date: April 1, 2013 05:57

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To me, Daryyl is Amstel Light.


This is a fine observation, but light beer does have its place...safe & sane I say.

Great. Just what you want in rock and roll.

To be clear, Daryl has yet to play rock n roll with the Stones so he's probably off the hook...

This is some really good light beer playing right here (also not RnR):





Omar Hakim smokes too...

Light bass from Darryl. A third less melodies than our regular bass, and it's less riffing. Darryl Light. The great bass that will never cheer you up and never get you down. Plays great, less riffing. From Anheuser bass.


Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: flacnvinyl ()
Date: April 1, 2013 07:10

@Doxa - I would echo your logic on this. As a father, husband, business owner and major Stones fan, I am all for critical thinking on this one. $800/ticket is insane.

I remember paying $350/ticket to be in the first 10 rows at Ford Field in Detroit in 2002. A friend of mine said, "Thats insane! You need to find a new favorite band.. One you can actually talk to and afford to see!" I laughed because there is obviously no substitution for the Rolling Stones, and there never will be, but I agreed about his presupposition... The price I was willing to pay was insane.

This year I will likely go to ONE Stones gig, if I can afford it. I will likely cap our tickets at $200/each, and not for nose-bleed tickets. And if that disqualifies me from going, then apparently the Stones are lying in their recent ads regarding "getting Satisfaction".

In otherwords, I shouldn't have to sell one of my cameras in order to afford tickets. My goal this year is to take my wife on an actual vacation! Maybe to the beach! Ha! So... beach vacation including travel/food/all-that-stuff, or two hours of warhorses in nose-bleed seats? Its just a shame to see tickets so expensive these days.

Let me know when the Stones do their 'thank you' tour for the fans... The one where they dig deep, offer cheap tickets and play whatever they actually want to play instead of SMU/TD/BS/SFTD/HTW/MY/YGMR/etc again.

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: EddieByword ()
Date: April 1, 2013 08:00

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Max'sKansasCity
Is this the correct place to talk about ticket prices?

Only if you've got a nice juicy complaint............smoking smiley

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Posted by: runrudolph ()
Date: April 1, 2013 09:35

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Doxa
I really can't make sense of BV's logic.

His presupposition - pretty obvious - seems to be that only those people can "complain" who have not afford to get the tickets for Rolling Stones shows. And since this - a Stones tour, IORR? - is a "wedding", that kind of talk is not tolareted to spoil the party (besides in this very thread.)

I can't really follow that logic. I can't see there anything personal if one views some current price of certain current product beyond reasonable currency. Or if one views the whole practise in question being beyond out of reasonable justification. For me that only shows an ability to a critical, adult-like thought.

All I can say is that I see that adult-like is possible to to talk things if it is right for a Rolling Stones or any rock fan to ask such amounts of money to spend for such an entertainment, or should they - or, say, if it is fair that some country in Africa has 60% unemployment and people desperate having food (if this woould be a site to talk about that country and of such matters). The opposite is odd, if not, frightening, to me. I don't need to be in that position - a broke Stones fan, a poor African - to be vocal about it.

Actually it is pretty hard for me to sometimes understand that the most of the people writing here are people in - or approaching - their middle age (at least), and what is asked is a uncritical mindset of a teenager. A strange morphosis of teenager idolizing transforming to a wealthy elitism.

- Doxa

Could not agree with you More Doxa !!!hot smiley
Jeroen

Re: In response to BV's post on ticket prices...
Posted by: Max'sKansasCity ()
Date: April 1, 2013 10:27

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Max'sKansasCity
Is this the correct place to talk about ticket prices?

Only if you've got a nice juicy complaint............smoking smiley

Oh, I don't have any complaints, I was just wondering if this was the correct place.

Re: The ticket prices and other complaints thread
Date: April 1, 2013 10:53

Mick probably thinks the best show possible = the biggest show possible

That means high costs = high ticket prices

The greatest rock´n´roll band in the world will keep on charging the most for their tickets as well, I presume...

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