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Stoneage
What were you expecting? The Rolling Stones exploring new territories after a seven year leave from the recording studio? Come on, they better stick to the old reciepe. They can't go wrong there. One More Shot may be an outtake from a Winos album but it's still better than anything "new" thay have tried since twenty years back. It's a rehash of classic Stones (a la Richards) elements but it's good enough. Ne sutor supra crepidam!
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What were you expecting? The Rolling Stones exploring new territories after a seven year leave from the recording studio? Come on, they better stick to the old reciepe. They can't go wrong there. One More Shot may be an outtake from a Winos album but it's still better than anything "new" thay have tried since twenty years back. It's a rehash of classic Stones (a la Richards) elements but it's good enough. Ne sutor supra crepidam!
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I find myself listening to OMS two or three times a day since it first leaked a few days ago whereas the novelty had already worn off with D&G at that stage. I think it's really good. Keith is present, Charlie is present, Mick is superb and there's a nice Ronnie solo. Actually I think Chuck's contribution is fine too. Will I be banned now?
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i listened to the entire 3cd set last night...by the time i was done with the last 2 songs i was kinda thinking that maybe streets of love wasn't so bad after all....
You're right. Streets Of Love isn't so bad - it's 100% bad.
at least there's an attempt (a failed on, albeit) at making MUSIC. these new "songs" don't even go there....truly abysmal stuff.
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Stoneage
What were you expecting? The Rolling Stones exploring new territories after a seven year leave from the recording studio? Come on, they better stick to the old reciepe. They can't go wrong there. One More Shot may be an outtake from a Winos album but it's still better than anything "new" thay have tried since twenty years back. It's a rehash of classic Stones (a la Richards) elements but it's good enough. Ne sutor supra crepidam!
Imo 'One more shot' is one of the six songs recorded during Keef and Steve Jordan last sessions and probably should have been included on the new Winos album. I think it's a good song, but it would be much better sung by Keith and played by Winos: more powerful, with a better chorus and without the horrible 'na-na-na-na-na'.
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"Don't Stop" was also a regressive track. Still, I liked it. Classic Stones ingredients. "One More Shot" is really more of a typical Keith song than a Stones cliche. Something that would have fitted well on a Winos album.
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"Don't Stop" was also a regressive track. Still, I liked it. Classic Stones ingredients. "One More Shot" is really more of a typical Keith song than a Stones cliche. Something that would have fitted well on a Winos album.
"Don't Stop" if anything was a pure 'Stones For Dummies' number (my point above was ironical).But that doesn't mean I don't like the song; actually I do...
Which makes me think that probably "Mixed Emotions" is like a prototype of the song they have in their mind when they are thinking making a pop-tuned typical Stones-sounding rocker (a potential 'hit'). At its time of release it sounded nicely nostalgic, having so many old familiar features in a rather contemporary easy-listening form, a bit of melodic hook - or some other supposed catchy idea - in the chorus, etc. This receipt has been borrowed ever since. And it is no co-incidental that "Take it So Hard" derives from the same period - another song where the past meets present and shows the direction for future - but there Richards being more 'ambitious' in his handling of soundscape. More 'avantgarde'...
And wouldn't those two songs the ones comes to mind when listening to "One More Shot"? For me eyes the effort of making a rough Keith/Winos song a more 'pop' and 'ear-friendly' just don't go out right. Perhaps Jagger have should have been more determinate like with "Mixed Emotions" - "we need a minor chord there" - if he had a will, but most likely he didn't. They didn't do not enough to develop the song. Now it ends up sounding 'too light Winos song' or 'too stupid Stones song'.
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MileHigh
You know instead of putting the Stones under the microscope perhaps having the mirror point back at the "super analyzers" is a worthwhile exercise also.
Jeez, some near-seventy-year-olds get together for a few days in a recording studio and record a few songs. We all now have the luxury of not even having to buy the music. No need to even tape off of the radio!
Do we really have to analyze these songs to death and compare and contrast them with the totality of the Stones output over the years and their solo work? Maybe when they recorded this stuff they were just living in the moment and they didn't and don't give a rat's azz relative to what they recorded previously or what the nano-critics will have to say.
Either you like it or you don't or your toe taps or it doesn't. Can't it just be as simple as that?
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You know instead of putting the Stones under the microscope perhaps having the mirror point back at the "super analyzers" is a worthwhile exercise also.
Jeez, some near-seventy-year-olds get together for a few days in a recording studio and record a few songs. We all now have the luxury of not even having to buy the music. No need to even tape off of the radio!
Do we really have to analyze these songs to death and compare and contrast them with the totality of the Stones output over the years and their solo work? Maybe when they recorded this stuff they were just living in the moment and they didn't and don't give a rat's azz relative to what they recorded previously or what the nano-critics will have to say.
Either you like it or you don't or your toe taps or it doesn't. Can't it just be as simple as that?
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MileHigh
You know instead of putting the Stones under the microscope perhaps having the mirror point back at the "super analyzers" is a worthwhile exercise also.
Jeez, some near-seventy-year-olds get together for a few days in a recording studio and record a few songs. We all now have the luxury of not even having to buy the music. No need to even tape off of the radio!
Do we really have to analyze these songs to death and compare and contrast them with the totality of the Stones output over the years and their solo work? Maybe when they recorded this stuff they were just living in the moment and they didn't and don't give a rat's azz relative to what they recorded previously or what the nano-critics will have to say.
Either you like it or you don't or your toe taps or it doesn't. Can't it just be as simple as that?
You got it wrong, people don't "put the song under the microscope" and then decide whether they like it or not. One either like the song, or one doesn't - and after that one tries to find the words about why it sucks.....
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But I think it is also rather natural that these two songs are put "under the microscope" more than usual, because (a) they actually are their first two new songs for seven years(thereby having a bigger interest than generally, since that won't happen too often), and (b) each of them is released in a rather profilic way, as singles; they are not just 'album fillers' (2 out of 15 or so every two yaers or something.)
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But I think it is also rather natural that these two songs are put "under the microscope" more than usual, because (a) they actually are their first two new songs for seven years(thereby having a bigger interest than generally, since that won't happen too often), and (b) each of them is released in a rather profilic way, as singles; they are not just 'album fillers' (2 out of 15 or so every two yaers or something.)
And another thing....it's quite possible that these 2 songs will be the last Rolling Stones songs ever. Not that one can say for sure, but...
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Doxa
Perhaps Jagger have should have been more determinate like with "Mixed Emotions" - "we need a minor chord there" -
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Hmmm.... I need readjust my original verdict that this cut will not work live. No, I think they are able to make something out of it. I like the guitars doing the riff, it is catchy - I wonder why they didn't use it more in the song, like starting the whole thing with it? Now it is a bit buried to the song - which I think the basic problem with the song structurally; it has lots of little things that do not make a coherent whole (like the 'nananana' part, and that Arabic sounding 'Iloveloveloveyou' oddity). The Stones generally are masters in creating the 'drama' of the song, how it 'flows', but I think this time that is not happening.
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You just said somnething good about this song? Finally! Comne on dude, excellent lyrical concept. Mick sounds great on the 7th chord "one more ShOT." That's probably why it's better for Mick to sing, especially on the chorus.Quote
Actually I have said something good about it earlier in this thread... I think my 'second day' review in page 7 is rather positive, and I have also praised Jagger's vocals.. but yeah, it is not going to be favorite numbers...
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You just said somnething good about this song? Finally! Comne on dude, excellent lyrical concept. Mick sounds great on the 7th chord "one more ShOT." That's probably why it's better for Mick to sing, especially on the chorus.Quote
Actually I have said something good about it earlier in this thread... I think my 'second day' review in page 7 is rather positive, and I have also praised Jagger's vocals.. but yeah, it is not going to be favorite numbers...
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I agree- the song is almost a watered down of Mixed Emotions. On first hearing it seemed I like was missing "Button your lips baby....) The chords are nearly identical, without the second minor chord (You're'not the only one...).
And it seems the add-on of na-nan-na seem to replace the meaning of the song itself.
Mixed Emotions is one of my all time favorites and seems to trifle the nerves so to speak.
I propose skip the song entirely on this tour and simply play Mixed Emotions itself.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2012-11-11 18:11 by Chris Fountain.
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You just said somnething good about this song? Finally! Comne on dude, excellent lyrical concept. Mick sounds great on the 7th chord "one more ShOT." That's probably why it's better for Mick to sing, especially on the chorus.Quote
Actually I have said something good about it earlier in this thread... I think my 'second day' review in page 7 is rather positive, and I have also praised Jagger's vocals.. but yeah, it is not going to be favorite numbers...
- Doxa
i will never waver in my hatred. fickleness is not a noble attribute.