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I should also mention Dolly Parton was playing last night in Ft. Lauderdale & wanted to hear/see her, but forgot it was the same night as the Stones concert film. Hopefully there is a next time.
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nanker25
freshen my memory, please.
I saw the final stop on the 1978 tour (Mick's 35th birthday) July 26, Oakland, and recall only Ian McLagan on keyboard, He's also the only keyboard player introduced on the 6-14-78 bootleg from Passaic, N.J.
But Ian Stewart was clearly at Fort Worth. Was Stew on the rest of the tour? Some dates.
Also, I recall Mick on concert grand for Love In Vain in Oakland. Am I right?
Yet he is not on keyboard of Fort Worth.
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
It seems that you're not the only one.
I've read some comments about the same thing .
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
It seems that you're not the only one.
I've read some comments about the same thing .
I understand people's reactions to that,and that's fine, but good grief -- where have these offended been for the last 50 years? Do they see nothing feminine about the way he was in'66 or '69 or '73 or '76? Much of his fame was built on his androgyny during those years, and much of his showmanship, too. I am confused that anyone should suddenly notice it...
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
So Jagger fully succeeded.
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
It seems that you're not the only one.
I've read some comments about the same thing .
I understand people's reactions to that,and that's fine, but good grief -- where have these offended been for the last 50 years? Do they see nothing feminine about the way he was in'66 or '69 or '73 or '76? Much of his fame was built on his androgyny during those years, and much of his showmanship, too. I am confused that anyone should suddenly notice it...
Yeah, it's as if some Stones fans have suddenly and magically become Rush Limbaughian. Do they not know how Mick Jagger has been in the past? They're offended? That's just too funny.
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
It seems that you're not the only one.
I've read some comments about the same thing .
I understand people's reactions to that,and that's fine, but good grief -- where have these offended been for the last 50 years? Do they see nothing feminine about the way he was in'66 or '69 or '73 or '76? Much of his fame was built on his androgyny during those years, and much of his showmanship, too. I am confused that anyone should suddenly notice it...
Yeah, it's as if some Stones fans have suddenly and magically become Rush Limbaughian. Do they not know how Mick Jagger has been in the past? They're offended? That's just too funny.
Funny? No, what's funny is how a some people overlook things just because it's Mick Jagger or some other celeb. We all know Mick's history, but that doesn't mean I want to see a man, let alone one of my rock heroes, rubbing another man's crotch. Haven't had to see that over the past 30-years of touring. If that's the sort of thing you're into, that's what bands like Frankie Goes To Hollywood are for. And making an association to Rush Limbaugh is a pretty obtuse statement.
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
Ronnie got back at Mick. Did you see Ronnie almost getting his foot up Mick's ass?
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
Ronnie got back at Mick. Did you see Ronnie almost getting his foot up Mick's ass?
twice ronnie offered mick a hit of his cig; twice he was turned down. the one time mick did take ronnie's cig, he tossed it on the ground and stomped on it. for those who don't believe these two cats don't hate each other now, i don't know what other evidence you are looking for...
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
Ronnie got back at Mick. Did you see Ronnie almost getting his foot up Mick's ass?
twice ronnie offered mick a hit of his cig; twice he was turned down. the one time mick did take ronnie's cig, he tossed it on the ground and stomped on it. for those who don't believe these two cats don't hate each other now, i don't know what other evidence you are looking for...
Very strange dynamics in this band.
Innocent/playful or not I don't think Mick would have been doing some of those things if it had been Mick Taylor on the stage instead of Ronnie.
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Stones62A valid point To. In Redwood City there were perhaps 20 people in attendance but when I spoke to mcparty in Walnut Creek after the flick he told there about 100, most of whom were clapping and wooping it up during the screening. Walnut Creek must be Stones' country...Quote
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Last question. Why not more dates in USA theaters for this gem?
a serious question? did you happen to notice how few of your fellow rabid stones fans were there last night?
still...not reason enough to move from rc to wc...
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
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Think about it, it's the tour for the album with "When the Whip Comes Down" so yes, as on SNL that same year, Mick turned up the gay stuff deliberately.
And no sooner do some of us get their (pardon the expression) head around that than someone mentions Taylor would never have been treated that way which is the perfect segue for the individual here who likes to claim Taylor left the band because Jagger tried to do him. And in no time at all, the Some Girls concert film thread will become another Taylor thread devoted to something other than the man's talents on guitar.
Back to DragonSky's point about Limbaugh, I think a better comparison would have been Bill O'Reilly who claimed to be a huge Stones fan, had Wyman on his show, and then proceeded to talk about how he was "shocked...shocked" by what bad people they were after reading OLD GODS ALMOST DEAD. A Stones fan O'Reilly's age should certainly have been aware of their reputation which made his claims of outrage rather disingenuous. If you'll allow me to speak for my old pal DragonSky, I think that's all he was getting at.
I understand not everyone has watched every video on Youtube or has all the bootlegs and (if they're only familiar with 1981-2001) might not think of Jagger acting that way. Although he's playing with himself throughout LET'S SPEND THE NIGHT TOGETHER as well so, um, get used to it. Mick used to be quite deliberately offensive in ways other than perpetrating bad rhymes and demonstrating an over-reliance on cliches.
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I thought it was really good, but... am I the only one that was bothered by Mick rubbing Ronnie's crotch and making a few other effeminate gestures?
It seems that you're not the only one.
I've read some comments about the same thing .
I understand people's reactions to that,and that's fine, but good grief -- where have these offended been for the last 50 years? Do they see nothing feminine about the way he was in'66 or '69 or '73 or '76? Much of his fame was built on his androgyny during those years, and much of his showmanship, too. I am confused that anyone should suddenly notice it...
Yeah, it's as if some Stones fans have suddenly and magically become Rush Limbaughian. Do they not know how Mick Jagger has been in the past? They're offended? That's just too funny.
Funny? No, what's funny is how a some people overlook things just because it's Mick Jagger or some other celeb. We all know Mick's history, but that doesn't mean I want to see a man, let alone one of my rock heroes, rubbing another man's crotch. Haven't had to see that over the past 30-years of touring. If that's the sort of thing you're into, that's what bands like Frankie Goes To Hollywood are for. And making an association to Rush Limbaugh is a pretty obtuse statement.