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jpasc95
Mathijs,
Maybe you're right, but to be honest it's very difficult to be sure who plays what with these guys. I remember Keith saying that it was fun to shuffle the cards about guitars.
I play guitar like other guys on this forum and I was very surprised when I heard that guitars on Sway were played by Jagger and Taylor...couldn't believe it...I did not ask myself the question...things were established.
Do you remember when you heard Sway for the first time or even after may times ?
Did you instantly guess that it might not be Keith playing on Going Down ?
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jpasc95
I play guitar like other guys on this forum and I was very surprised when I heard that guitars on Sway were played by Jagger and Taylor...couldn't believe it...I did not ask myself the question...things were established.
Do you remember when you heard Sway for the first time or even after may times ?
Did you instantly guess that it might not be Keith playing on Going Down ?
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jpasc95
Highwire too ?
well...who played on that one ? M Jagger ?
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jpasc95
I play guitar like other guys on this forum and I was very surprised when I heard that guitars on Sway were played by Jagger and Taylor...couldn't believe it...I did not ask myself the question...things were established.
Do you remember when you heard Sway for the first time or even after may times ?
Did you instantly guess that it might not be Keith playing on Going Down ?
I never thought it was Keith who played the rhythm guitar on Sway or Stop Breaking Down from the first moment I heard it when I was 12, but that's an easy shot: it was stated on the album sleeve Richards didn't play on it. At that time I was more amazed that they would release a track without Richards, as I didn't consider that 'true' Stones music.
Somebody else mentioned Brown Sugar, and that he was amazed that Jagger wrote the riff. Well, he did not, of course. Jagger wrote the vocal melody and lyrics, accompanied by a strummed C, F and G chord. Listen to Jagger playing it for Ike and Tina, and you’ll hear what he actually wrote. It was Keith Richards who took the chords, and together with Watts transformed it in to the monster riff and track it is, just by his unique phrasing, timing and attack. We’ve discussed it before, but this is why all tracks are Jagger/Richards.
Highwire got me, I thought that was Richards for a long time. Heaven is another one, always thought that was Richards on rhythm guitar. Moonlight Mile is another one, where it takes time before you accept the acoustic is Jagger. And the most confusing: Wyman’s bass on Jigsaw Puzzle. It is him, but I still find that hard to believe…
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Bärs
There is actually no riff in Brown Sugar since there is no repeating melodic figure, only chords. If we listen to Jagger playing for the Turners he plays all the chord progressions there are in the song. Listen 0:37 forward:
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Of course Keith's guitar part is great. But the intro is the chorus chords G and C played with the standard open G licks that even Mick is doing now and then in the clip. I don't think it's a riff and it's certainly not one of Keith's compositions in any aspect. Keith's part is great because of the perfect sound and extremely effective minimalistic approach which makes every single note count.
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Amsterdamned
Keith was lucky to have those people around him.
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Mathijs
but people like you make people leave this board. I know I am.
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Mathijs
but people like you make people leave this board. I know I am.
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Pleaqse don't! That would be a great loss for us plus "some" people would see your departure as some kind of victory...
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but people like you make people leave this board. I know I am.
Mathijs
Pleaqse don't! That would be a great loss for us plus "some" people would see your departure as some kind of victory...
Well, 'they' won, I guess. Internet has changed, and it's not a matter of who's right anymore, but it's about the one who's posting the most, the one shouting out loudest. It doesn't matter he doesn't have a clue -he has an opinion and shouts aloud 100 times a day because he is unemployed sitting in an attic in Amsterdam North...Well, pity you, but that's it for me, really. I am not going to be bothered anymore.
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It features all the little fills that Keith Richards is known to play in the 1970 to early 1973 period (after ’73 his open G work starts to become more straight-forward chording, without too much fills and thrills, and after 1990 his open G work starts to be mainly fills and thrills, with way too little chording). Then, the little fills and thrills are phrased in that typical Keith Richards way, very awkwardly timed, and very hard to replicate.
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Mathijs
...I never said this before, but people like you make people leave this board. I know I am.
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24FPS
Mathijs - I've been to Amsterdam North. It ain't that great. Except for the winding two lane through the countryside.
Amsterdammed - I wish I was unemployed in an attic in North Amsterdam, instead of unemployed in L.A.
I don't take what people say all that serious. But thanks for being passionate.
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Bärs
It's strange that no serious academic research has been carried out about these things. There should be several in depth interviews with all involved as long as they are alive. About this song it would be interesting to know exactly what Taylor's role is, who the bassplayer is, and why the name Stills is associated with the song.
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I'am not unemployed and don't live in north, but in a nice apartment near the centre