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HMS
I hate it. They sold their souls for commercial success beyond their fanbase. They even attached strings to make it even more schmaltzy. They did it only for the money. Many fans must have been very upset back then, I guess.
Sorry, don't agree. It's simply a ballad.
Lady Jane, Play With Fire, As Tears go By...all great Stones ballads. Many fans LOVED these earlier Stones ballads. THIS one loves Angie too.
There's nothing out of the ordinary in The Stones playing and presenting big, or small, ballads. In fact, Stones ballads usually are quite EXTRAordinary.
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HMS
I hate it. They sold their souls for commercial success beyond their fanbase. They even attached strings to make it even more schmaltzy. They did it only for the money. Many fans must have been very upset back then, I guess.
Sorry, don't agree. It's simply a ballad.
Lady Jane, Play With Fire, As Tears go By...all great Stones ballads. Many fans LOVED these earlier Stones ballads. THIS one loves Angie too.
There's nothing out of the ordinary in The Stones playing and presenting big, or small, ballads. In fact, Stones ballads usually are quite EXTRAordinary.
i can see why people love it.
however, play it next to "wild horses"
it's like putting "you got me rocking" up against "brown sugar"
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rollmops
"Angie"is a great song; too huge for its own good but its beauty and its musical intricacies should not be diminished by its wide popularity; sometimes the mass of us get the good stuff!
Rockandroll,
Mops
I seriously think Angie is the best love song ever written! I hated it when it was released. Here's my story...
Honky Tonk Woman was by far my favorite song. I had been buying 45s of the big hits on the radio. I never paid any attention to the name of the recording artist. I was a little kid and I loved music.
I had all of the big hits from back then, everything from Mel and Tims "Backfield in Motion" to the Beatles "Revolution." I had grown-up on Bubble Gum Music, everything from "1, 2, 3 Red Light," "Keep the Ball Rolling," "Indian Giver," "Baby It's You" by Smith. Then "Honky Tonk Woman" became a big hit.
I used to list to AM radio night and day where they play all of the big hits every hour. I waited for the cow bell at the beginning of Honky Tonk to sneak up on me and the this force would come over me and give me the power of a super hero as Charlie's drumming put me in a trance. I felt power surge through me as I would dance around my basement room where I hung out. "Honky Tonk Woman" was the best song I had ever heard! I bought the 7" single and figured-out from the record label Honk Tonk was by the Rolling Stones. This was the band Pete who lived down the street liked. I didn't like Pete, so I didn't want to like the band he liked but, hey, I can't argue with a song that turned me on like no other.
I changed schools and made a new friend Vincent who loved the Rolling Stones. I went to his house one day and there were Rolling Stones posters covering his walls. Vincent's Mom made comments about the posters remarking that they were posters of Vincent's girlfriends due to their long hair.
I said to Vincent, "These posters are the Rolling Stones?" Vincent excitedly said, "Yes." Vincent wanted to share his love of the Rolling Stones with me his new friend. "This is the group that does "Honky Tonk Woman!" Excitedly he said, "Yes!" I exclaimed, "I bought the 45 of "Honky Tonk Woman" and wanted to find more songs by the Rolling Stones.
Vincent put Hot Rocks on the turn table. I wasn't very impressed at first. I had heard "Satisfaction" plenty of times but didn't know it was the same band as "Honky Tonk Woman." Then side three of "Hot Rocks" blew me away!
I got "Hot Rocks" that year from Santa Clause. How he knew what to get, I don't know since I had stopped writing him letters. The rest as we say is history. I wore-out "Hot Rocks" playing it over and over.
"Exile on Main Street" was released. My older brother bought it and didn't like it. He gave it to me. I didn't like it either except for "Tumbling Dice" which I loved. Vincent came to my house and saw Exile and and played "Sweet Virginia" over and over. He like, "scrape the shit right off your shoes." Bad words in a song were big when we were eleven-years-old. We'd let that side of the album play as we were doing other things and then play it again. I thought the album sucked but didn't realize that Exile, like "Goats Head Soup" and many other Stones albums are and acquired taste that take time to grow on people.
I grew to love "Hot Rocks." I loved the Rolling Stones. Many songs on "Hot Rocks" gave me that super power or as my elder aunt would say about certain songs, "It sends me." Kick-ass songs including the best version of "Paint It Black" (1986 Old Abkco - long version mono - most powerful), "Street Fighting Man," "Jumping Jack Flash"... the list goes on of songs then would 'send me' to another dimension and give me powerful dance moves. I probably looked awkward but in my mind I was cooler than Tom Cruse sing "Old Time Rock and Roll" in the movie Risky Business.
Oh yeah, "Angie." Then came 1973 and Vincent was telling me that the Rolling Stones had a new album released called "Goats Head Soup" and that I had to buy it right away. I agreed forgetting about how much I didn't like Exile (now my all time favorite album. Like I said, 'it's an acquired taste').
I made enough money for bus fare and to buy the new Rolling Stones album from working for my Uncle. After work and dinner, I caught the first bus and went and bought the album. I couldn't wait to get it home and spin it.
I ran all of the way from the bus stop to my house. Ran down to the basement. Mom yelled, "Aren't you going to say, 'Hello?" I yelled, "Hi, Mom," as I jumped down the last five steps.
I played Goats Head Soup. It sucked at first play. "What happened to the Rolling Stones?," I wondered. I heard "Angie" on the radio every hour on the hour all day long scrapping paint off my uncle's garage door all day and thinking, "What the @#$%& is this whiney song?"
I had proclaimed to the world, all of my friends that the Rolling Stones were the greatest band ever! They kick ass! They know how to make the best songs. They were much better than the Beatles! But, "Angie?"
"Angie" could be heard everywhere, over and over. My reputation was doomed. Where was "Street Fighting Man," "Jumping Jack Flash," "Gimme Shelter," "Midnight Rambler," Honky Tonk Woman" and all of the other great songs? We got "Angie" with Mick Jagger whispering? I want Mick to shout and scream and kill the king and rail at all his servants!
I went down to the corner where everyone hung out and we were head to John's house. His parents were away. I brought some records along including "Goats Head Soup." I loved "Star @#$%&" by then and thought it would be cool to play it for my friends who were in to the "Doors."
Johnny's older sister was having a party down stairs as we headed up stairs to Johnny's room for our impromptu party. Johnny's sister, Patty, said, "Can I see which records you have? Can we play some down here? For Patty, anything. She was the coolest girl around and everyone loved her. "Sure, Patty, you can borrow some records."
Patty spots "Goats Head Soup." She lets out a gasp and says, "The Rolling Stones! I love Mick Jagger and Keith is the coolest ever! IS this the new album with "Angie" on it?" I said, "Yeah, 'Angie is on it and "Star @#$%&" too!"
Patty grabs "Goats Head Soup" and wraps her arms around it, holds it tightly to her chest and says, "Angie" is the most beautiful song ever written. It makes me cry. It's such a sad and beautiful song. Nobody can let you feel a song like Mick Jagger can."
Wow! What just happened? The song that embarrassed me in front of all of my friends was suddenly cool. If Patty, the coolest chick around (she was in high school too!) thought it was cool, well then, my reputation was in tact. There must have been something to this new Stones song "Angie" that I missed. The radio sure loved it.
Suddenly I didn't cringe every time Angie came on the radio. I was proud that my bad, the Rolling Stones were number one! I didn't understand it at the time but I was glad Patty loved it in front of my friends and it was currently a big hit.
Patty's girlfriends loved it to. Linda excitedly said, "Put on Angie!" I didn't say a word to my friends. I felt very cool.
This was a tough crowd where i lived. Ray a greaser type with is combat boots, dungarees, big wallet in his back pocket hook on with a silver chain says, "We ain't playin' no Mick Faggot Lips." Patty walked over to Ray and started running her hand through his hair with her other arm security pressing "Goats Head Soup" against her chest and told Ray, "Honey, we're playing the Rolling Stones." Ray said, "I don't like the Rolling Stones!" Patty told Ray, we're putting it on!"
Ray looked at me and said, "You had to bring that shit over here. I don't like it!" I said to him, "You don't have to like. You just have to listen it to it." He came running towards me and I rand like hell up those steps with him yelling, "If you weren't Tommy's little brother I'd take you outside and beat your ass!"
We had side three of "Hot Rocks" blasting upstairs. I'd open the bedroom door and could hear "Angie" being play again and again.
After that episode I started listening to "Angie" on the album and listened intensely as it constantly played on the radio.
I started to realize that "Angie" was a great tragic song. It was beautiful. Emotional. Sad. Loving. Not only was it heart wrenching to know how much Mick loved this woman but he couldn't be with her anymore. He knew it. She knew it. The imagery in the song came through like no other song, "Everywhere I look I see your eyes." It was by far the greatest love of his life, "There ain't a woman that comes close to you." But there was no more lovin' in their souls. The relationship was over and Mick was telling Angie who probably had a hard time excepting the news. Mick had a hard time with it but he understood it and was moving on. He was just explaining it to Angie.
Mick understands that Angie is beautiful and hates the sadness in Angie's eyes but it was time to say, Good bye." He remembers how sweet Angie's kisses still tasted but he had to break-up anyway. All of the dreams they had together we're going to work-out. This song is the realization of a great love that did not work out and it was very hard to end it. He remembers 'all of the nights of crying.'
It was very touching as Mick whispers in Angie's ear, "Where will It lead us from here?" Where will life take them after their plans of their life together was over. There were clouds hanging over the relationship. It wasn't like it once was.
At the end of the song Mick admits he still loves her. It's simply heartbreaking.
I gave "Angie" many spins after the party(s) at Johnny's and Patty's house. I grew to understand what the world was loving about the new big Rolling Stones song, "Angie." "Heartbreaker" and "Star @#$%&" were soon tow of my very favorite songs as I was beginning to love "Dancing With Mr D."
I didn't mention how beautiful the music is on "Angie" and how perfectly it fits the song with violins, acoustic guitars, paino and Mick's emotional delivery. "Angie" is a perfect song. It's among the best love songs written. I haven't found a better, more emotional and heart-wrenching song.
Thanks, Patty and @#$%& you, Ray!
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NICOS
Nice quotes from both of them...................
Maureen
Maureen, Maureen
When will those dark clouds all disappear
Maureen, Maureen
Where will it lead us from here
With no lovin' in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied
Maureen, Maureen
You can't say we never tried
Maureen, you're beautiful
But ain't it time we say goodbye
Maureen, I still love you
Remember all those nights we cried
All the dreams were held so close
Seemed to all go up in smoke
Let me whisper in your ear
Maureen, Maureen
Where will it lead us from here
Oh, Maureen, don't you wish
Oh your kisses still taste sweet
I hate that sadness in your eyes
But Maureen
Maureen
Ain't it time we said goodbye
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Piano , Bass . Percussion's track for ANGIE
Piano Nicky Hopkins
Drums Charlie Watts
Bass Bill Wyman
(there are some 'strings' and some synth on here as well
but mostly it's piano bass drums.
it's quite lovely
The following quoted from the fan who posted this video
"The track Angie is from the Goat Heads Soup LP. This particular version with no vocal or guitar tracks features Nicky Hopkins on keyboards along with Charlie on the drums and Bill playing bass. Angie is about the end of a relationship, a romance gone badly, a lost love Elisa Edelman. It was written and composed primarily by Keith Richards.
Urban legend has Mick Jagger writing the song for David Bowie' s wife but the truth is Keith wrote the song for Anita Pallenberg. Keith had just ended a relationship with Anita.
Nicky Hopkins a long time friend & musical collaborator of the Stones plays a brilliant keyboard track which stands out in the song and along with Jagger's vocals make's this a magical song !"
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DandelionPowderman
Nothing beats Mick's singing, and they sounds they created on the studio version, imo. The 73, 75, 76-versions were all very nice, albeit more simplistic and rough.
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OpenG
The 73 Brussels version as great weaving between MT and Keith( did I say weaving LOL). Yes MT's solo is awesome but the vocals, and weaving is awesome.
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smokeydusky
Used to be a bunch of pix at the Getty site listed as Wembley. Unsure of the accuracy though
Birmingham
Wembley Pool 73:
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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 2019-02-24 20:41 by exilestones.