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Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: TooTough ()
Date: June 25, 2008 14:00

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guitarbastard
the best teams (holland, protugal) are out. so this tournament is over for me.
that's what i don't like about those football championships: unlike in other sport-disciplines, it's almost never the best that wins...

Bullsh!t! The one who is the winner of the final deserves the cup.
I liked Holland´s playing a lot. But if you can´t beat Russia,
Russia deserves to play the next round. Portugal was just arrogant,
when the "superstars" rested in the final match against Switzerland.
Easy rules in a
tournament. The team needs to play every game, even if they are already
qualified. And, btw, the Germans were better that day!

So tonight it´s Germany-Turkey. It will be a great party here in Germany
with all the Turkish here. There are a lot of Turkish who say that they
already have one team in the final!

So my predition for the final: Germany-Russia!

Sorry, carlitosbaez, prepare for the final party! sad smiley



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-25 14:01 by TooTough.

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Greenblues ()
Date: June 25, 2008 14:10

... and the "best" tag might not last forever. It's not just about who's best, it's also about who's better... ;-)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 2008-06-25 14:19 by Greenblues.

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: June 25, 2008 15:36

germany is always lucky.......

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Greenblues ()
Date: June 25, 2008 15:43

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guitarbastard
germany is always lucky.......

I see what you mean. But you could also call it "instictive efficiency": They hit when it hurts. Right place, right time...

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 15:45

Ladies and Gentlemen,
A BIG respect for main characters of Euro Cup,right now, Holland and Portugal are out, and they deserve them!!
Russia crashem up with a magestic master class of football the other day and Portugal is out the same way. Turkey is there because have believe in theirselves and Germany the same, Spain we know.
So we haven´t had any, or just one or two star-players and now we have had great matches and a bunch of great players, since Euro Cup in Germany, nothing has been the same.
Today I go with Turkey because they are at priori the weakest team.
vamos Turkey!!!!
Carlitos
Tenerife

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: June 25, 2008 15:47

Weird things can happen in game - but I think germany will make it...


Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: June 25, 2008 16:01

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Greenblues
Quote
guitarbastard
germany is always lucky.......

I see what you mean. But you could also call it "instictive efficiency": They hit when it hurts. Right place, right time...

yeah, you're right, but i prefer to go for beauty and creativity then for power and efficiency.

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: only stones ()
Date: June 25, 2008 16:18

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Papo
The oracle has spoken! ;-)

In 2010 I will ask you and place my bet according to your prophecies!

In 2010 i hope Italy, i'm sure italy:-)
Today Donadoni come in your montain's house and come back Marcello Lippi
Sici

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: jjflash73 ()
Date: June 25, 2008 16:23

Espana!

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Thommie ()
Date: June 25, 2008 16:53

Football in the alps isn't easy for foreigners...

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Greenblues ()
Date: June 25, 2008 16:56

This is when the German speaking fans say "...das Spiel kippt..." ;-)

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: June 25, 2008 16:57

Lol thumbs up

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Koen ()
Date: June 25, 2008 17:18

To quote Gary Lineker:

"Football is a simple game where 22 players play against each other and in the end Germany wins"

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Rolling Hansie ()
Date: June 25, 2008 17:23

LOL Koen

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Keep On Rolling smoking smiley

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: June 25, 2008 17:30

Germany's game against Portugal was a masterclass of how to beat a really good opponent by out-thinking them. Many of Portugal's players were technically better than Germany's but by playing 5-man midfield with greater attacking power they overcame them. It was a breathtaking match so I don't buy all that bullshit about Germany being machine like and boring.

They are very efficient when it comes to doing their homework and really know how to play a tournament. Italy has this same quality but usually sucks the life out of the game before hitting killer goals on the break as they did against us in the WM 2006.

Yes, Germany started slow, were so-so against Poland, terrible against Croatia and played a careful game against Austria. What do you want to do in a tournament - take big risks and get knocked out. You play a tournament to win. Germany always play better against the big teams and in the big games that count. Anyway, enough of defending them. I hope tonight's game is another cracker. Geh Jungs!



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Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 17:34

Don´t you realize most of you said same before, and teams as Holland, Portugal, Italy and other are at home?.... Think about it...
Let´s see what happen tonite, but I go with Turkey!!!!!
Vaaaaaaamooooooossss España!!!

Carlitos
Tenerife

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: June 25, 2008 17:42

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Silver Dagger
Germany's game against Portugal was a masterclass of how to beat a really good opponent by out-thinking them. Many of Portugal's players were technically better than Germany's but by playing 5-man midfield with greater attacking power they overcame them. It was a breathtaking match so I don't buy all that bullshit about Germany being machine like and boring.

They are very efficient when it comes to doing their homework and really know how to play a tournament. Italy has this same quality but usually sucks the life out of the game before hitting killer goals on the break as they did against us in the WM 2006.

Yes, Germany started slow, were so-so against Poland, terrible against Croatia and played a careful game against Austria. What do you want to do in a tournament - take big risks and get knocked out. You play a tournament to win. Germany always play better against the big teams and in the big games that count. Anyway, enough of defending them. I hope tonight's game is another cracker. Geh Jungs!

whatever. i dont like this menthality in sports. it sucks. i love germany and i have many german friends, but when it comes to football i just hate them!

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Silver Dagger ()
Date: June 25, 2008 17:53

I understand your point Guitard Bastard. A lot of people hate the German team because they usually get to the last 4 in tournaments. We just got to live with that. I never used to like Martin Navratilova or Pete Sampras for the same reason of being ruthlessly efficient. Sorry. It's my team and I support them. Here's a test, if they played delightful, beautiful football all the time would you still hate them?

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Urban Wheel ()
Date: June 25, 2008 17:58

It is obvious that Turkey will be beaten by the Gerries tonight. Unfortunately I believe. Luck isn't the thing in this game. It is a matter of being capable of playing a tournament. The kicked-out countries were either too arrogant, sloppy, wrong tactics but never unlucky.

I am Dutch and believed for a second that it would finaly make sense but unfortunately we made the mistake to play in the 2nd half 4-3-3 instead of the 4-5-1 that really worked well. But I must say the Russians were all over the play and played for their country with blood, sweat and tears.

So Germany will beat Turkey for sure, since Turkey has now a new attacker (the third keeper LOL).

Russia against Spain, Je ne sais pas. I believe that Spain has more experience but allways fails wehen the going gets tough. Russia (with our fantastc coach Guus Hiddink) will win IF they can maintain the speed and the enthousiasm of the previous game. Nevertheless I see Russia and Germany "Grow" in the tournament

So from my professional point of view. Germany beats Turkey easily with 3-0.
Russia and Spain will need additional time but russia will win with 0-1.

Final will be Russia against Germany and due to their neverlasting "kamfgeist"
The germans will win this tournament

Ce tout!

Urban Wheel

'Doo doo doo Heartbreaker'

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: therollingmanu ()
Date: June 25, 2008 20:21

Germany's gonna make it!

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 20:55

More about Goats...head SOPA...
Next day after Bonfires, its tradition here at the north of the island in Tenerife, La Orotava and El Puerto de la Cruz, take to the harbour or beach goats shower them, it gives US more luck, more luck to Spain tomorrow!!!
vamos España!!!!
some pic from yesterday
carlitos
tenerife

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Fingers ()
Date: June 25, 2008 21:02

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?


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Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 21:02

Turkish Football club has JUST announced, Luis Aragones has signed up with Fenerbahçe, accordig their website,another way to destabilize Spain´s team.
Carlitos
Tenerife

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: guitarbastard ()
Date: June 25, 2008 21:09

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Silver Dagger
I understand your point Guitard Bastard. A lot of people hate the German team because they usually get to the last 4 in tournaments. We just got to live with that. I never used to like Martin Navratilova or Pete Sampras for the same reason of being ruthlessly efficient. Sorry. It's my team and I support them. Here's a test, if they played delightful, beautiful football all the time would you still hate them?

navratilova and sampras are good examples. i never liked them for the reasons you mentioned. i cant tell you, if i'd love them when they played a delightful football. i think there are too many disturbing memories in my brain:
first one: semifinal germany vs. france 1982 with that brutal keeper toni schumacher, who almost killed battiston


and then all those horrible, arrogant figures: matthäus, briegel, breme, völler, breitner, klinsmann, kahn, ballack. and i hate them for stealing maradonas 2nd tiel in italy with a penalty that wasnt one at all! and top of all: kaiser franz beckenbauer -what a narcissistic jerk. sorry silver dagger, but as i said: germany and especialy berlin and hamburg are among the places i love the most!

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: open-g ()
Date: June 25, 2008 21:24

That's quite a rant, Guitarbastard.

good job I ain't a footer nerd and live in Berlin. lol
keep going.

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 21:48

Vamossss Turkey!!!!

Carlitos
Tenerife

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 22:00

First Half and Ease turkish way of playing, I love it!!!
Vamos Turkey!!!!
Carlitos
Tenerife

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 22:01

Uuuuuuuuuuu!!!
What a game of the turkish!!!
It looks like SPAIN!!!!!

Vamos Turkey!!!
Carlitos

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: carlitosbaez ()
Date: June 25, 2008 22:10

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL of the Turkish!!!!!
What did i Say???
Vamosssss Turkey!!!
Carlitos
Tenerife

Re: OT: who will be the European Champion Football 2008?
Posted by: Bingo ()
Date: June 25, 2008 23:06

We lost reception here in The States...ESPN went down. sad smiley


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