i think to see how he plays these days for 2 hours is enough to see he is not alright.

you haven´t answered what makes you believe that it will get better with him and not worse.

How many more times! IOW!! A few days ago, excellent gig!!!

I've read this 'keith's doomed' toss on this site for the last few tours.

Twicks last year was superb. Sound was perfect and I was at the front. If I'd had reviewed the following Cardiff gig without being at Twicks I'd of told you how lousy the Stones are. But then I was up in the enclosed roof and the sound was beyond crap!

Have you ever thought that just maybe keith might bepissed or stoned and the two dodgy gigs and as clear as a bell for IOW???

If he really was ill wouldn't that mean he'd be hopeless at ALL recent gigs?

>>this is all going way over the top, too much drama<<

that's true about most of the analysing voices on this thread.

I believe nearly everyone agrees that the sound at the venue sucked big time.
thats what any band on stage will also notice - and finding out that you can't deliver (due to bad sound) doesn't help much to play brilliant.
except for Mick, who is fighter and who fought the odds.

But to say "the end is near" - now that's going way over the top, too much drama.

I'm lookin' forward to Paris.
Fortunately they don't have a roof and no friggin' seats on the ground and will hopefully not turn the stage around.
If it rains, I'll do like the chinese do - I'll get wet, so what?

-- If he really was ill wouldn't that mean he'd be hopeless at ALL recent gigs? --

Yes, but ill is not what i mean,
my point is that this just might be the way he is now, caused by lifestyle.
but then he would be equally bad all the time, maybe a little better here and there but not much.
so, you are right.

unfortunately i haven´t been to iow, i would have loved to see it with my own eyes, cause i am not sure if we have the same idea of what a great keith richards is. if he was clearly like the old one at iow than he might just have been stoned in frankfurt.

i hope this to be true.

thank you Open-G honey! sorry you didn't get decent sound - where were you located, can i ask?
and: if you feel like saying what you saw/heard during SFTD, i'd love to hear your take on it.
(there's a separate thread about it around here somewhere, if you prefer that to this one ... )

(thank you too, Ablett - and good luck! i'm rooting for you)

Ahhhh, good on u Sssoul! I'll fight me little corner.

And stonewashed. Check out Youtube. You might have a different opinion?

YPatrick Wrote:
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> the singer not the bong Wrote:
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> >
> > i think these pictures can join the famous
> running
> > Vietnamese girl from the 1970s as some of the
> > world's most depressing.
>
> and I think this comment is probably one of the
> most disrespectful and tasteless things I´ve ever
> read, if meant seriously----

and this must be on of the densest posts ive ever read, if you really think im serious!

*and i'm just like that bird - singing just for you*

Finally, a few shots from me. Mobile cam quality.
(When will I ever remember the <img one....)
[www.scandibar.com]

How sad is this?
[www.scandibar.com]
Hope they can learn some lessons from the US and 1st row.
Please Hamburg and Dusseldorf, the audience is more important than the sale
of Caipirinha.
Will also make my next morning better.

CU in Paris
TE
Oslo

TE Wrote :
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> How sad is this?
>
> Hope they can learn some lessons from the US and 1st row.
> Please Hamburg and Dusseldorf, the audience is more important than the sale
> of Caipirinha.

It doesn't look much like a rock'n roll concert...! Was there electricity in that fence ?



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Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> TE Wrote :
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> > How sad is this?
> >
> [www.scandibar.com]
> .jpg
> > Hope they can learn some lessons from the US and
> 1st row.
> > Please Hamburg and Dusseldorf, the audience is
> more important than the sale
> > of Caipirinha.
>
> It doesn't look much like a rock'n roll
> concert...! Was there electricity in that fence ?


Some of the security guys were into electricity. Almost.
No problem using a camera, mobile cam, so on. But keep the walkway clear for the Caipirinha.
Got a photo of rrronnie doing the sin, at the rail. He actuallt touched it!!! He was probably punished. (rrronnie????). Will try to dig up the photo after Paris. Forgot the portable at work, it's there somewhere. But I think it was during the bows. The photo is so low quality so I almost decided to delete it(just show it to rrronnie).

TE
Oslo

Looks like they're singing the national anthem

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> Looks like they're singing the national anthem


Could as well be praying in a church...or at a funeral....!

latvianinexile Wrote:
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> Looks like they're singing the national anthem


No, it wasn't :-) Just the Stones.

Here are some of my pics:
[neil-ebden.medion-fotoalbum.de]

Click on "Stones in Frankfurt", then click on "Vollbild".

TE Wrote:
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> Erik_Snow Wrote:
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> > It doesn't look much like a rock'n roll
> > concert...! (....) But
> keep the walkway clear for the Caipirinha.

Sometimes I thought the promotors and some people confused it with a gig of Destiny's Child. Some were dressed like the visitors of a garden party. Caipirinha! Nobody brought beer.

Ronnie58

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And what`s wrong with Bitch, Wanna Hold You, JJF, Brown Sugar, IORR ??? I cant`t hear what is wrong in this songs.

you can´t hear anything in these clips that´s the problem.
and you can´t see where keith has his fingers and i suppose you don´t know where his fingers actually should have been during specific parts of a song.

there is no way of declaring the frankfurt show an even acceptable show.

Bitch sounded good
It must have been a difficult task to record the Frankfurt show, since the sound was so lousy in that venue

bitch didn´t sound good and didn´t groove, the main theme was only played by the brass section. the guitars played some double stops here and there but did not really play the song.

but...pretty good..!

the brass section or the little guitar playing pretty good?

latvianinexile Wrote:
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> Here are some of my pics:
> [neil-ebden.medion-fotoalbum.de]
>
> Click on "Stones in Frankfurt", then click on
> "Vollbild".

Excellent pics, Neil!

Vilhelm
Nordic Stones Vikings

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> you can´t hear anything in these clips that´s the
> problem.
> and you can´t see where keith has his fingers and
> i suppose you don´t know where his fingers
> actually should have been during specific parts of
> a song.
>
> there is no way of declaring the frankfurt show an
> even acceptable show.

For me sounds good. I`m know where Keith`s fingers should been.. and I`m know waht i hear.

you know where his fingers should be, you do know the guitar parts of bitch and also saw keith or ronnie playing it?

most of the show keith played the intro, then the band joined in, corrected the timing and almost ignored what keith played until he had to finish the song, which was often a pain.

Just came back from Frankfurt. I didn't believe to see this day but I have to admit; Keith can't play anymore. Very sad but true. On too many songs he hardly played at all and if he did it sounded horrible. I just can't believe it...

latvianinexile Wrote:
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> Here are some of my pics:
> [neil-ebden.medion-fotoalbum.de]
>
> Click on "Stones in Frankfurt", then click on
> "Vollbild".


du suchst die gitarre?
you are looking for the guitar?

ich denke es ist eine versoul raya
i think it`s a versoul raya guitar
[www.kolumbus.fi]

[www.versoul.com]

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Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away



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stoneswashed77 Wrote:
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> you know where his fingers should be, you do know
> the guitar parts of bitch and also saw keith or
> ronnie playing it?
>
> most of the show keith played the intro, then the
> band joined in, corrected the timing and almost
> ignored what keith played until he had to finish
> the song, which was often a pain.

well i like play on my guitar..
I just think that`s clips from franfkurt sounds good.

Thanks TeleK, erikjjf told me about it a few minutes ago. What's the round blue thing on it? Is it just a design element?

i don`t know whats this blue thing is

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Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away

"Could as well be praying in a church...or at a funeral....!"

Praying for Keith's health - he was on his knees and they were waiting for if he came up again..... he was apparently like a dog sniffing his dad....



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